GeForce4 MX 440 Not Supported in Maverick Meerkat 10.10 Upgrade?

[Yougo]

Not working for me GeForce 3 Ti 200
When I run startx I see this:*


Fatal server error:
Server is already active for display 0
If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
and start again.


Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
at http://wiki.x.org
for help.

*ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log



Reboot, and I still haven't desktop effects.

remove /tmp/.X0-lock ...hmm, could work
rather, you could rename it and put it back if it didn't do the trick

[Slim Odds]

How long do you guys expect ancient hardware to be supported by new OS's?

I have one of these graphics cards in a system at home and that also has an 800MHz Pentium III processor and 768MB of RAM (maxed out). It's still running 8.04.

At some point you have to hang it up and move on.

It's so old that here are the supported Windows OS's:

WHQL-certified for Windows XP, Windows
Me, Windows 2000, Windows NT, and
Windows 98

Here's what you'll see at the bottom of the data sheet for this device:

Registered trademark NVIDIA® Corporation, 2002. 4 x 4 Evo 2 copyright 2001

So I'd highly recommend newer hardware or an older OS.

[CampbellBoyd]

Might not be perfect but good enough for me:

sudo su to become root
run nvidia-xconfig (this was in: /usr/lib/nvidia-96/bin/nvidia-xconfig)
go into /etc/X11/xorg.conf - I used vi
modify driver from nvidia to nv - in my case this was on line 94
save file
run startx
when ok - reboot machine - should go straight into your x-windows session

Resolution either 1600X1200 or 1400X1050
Screendept 16

Machine is a Dell Latitiude 840C

Worked for me! Thanks so much - I was getting near to thinking about going back to Windows [pause to bang head off desk] but now I can wait for the driver update and use my PC.

[dreamCatalyst]

I successfully downgraded X to the version in Lucid (1.7).
Works like a charm for me. No problems with 3D or resolutions.
Besides X everything is just like a new os

If anyone wants to know how...post a request in this thread, I'll see what I can do to reproduce the steps.

[Slim Odds]

Worked for me! Thanks so much - I was getting near to thinking about going back to Windows [pause to bang head off desk] but now I can wait for the driver update and use my PC.

That's because 'nv' is a generic open source NVidia driver that supports 2D.

So if you don't need 3D, that should work just fine.

[xingular]

I successfully downgraded X to the version in Lucid (1.7).
Works like a charm for me. No problems with 3D or resolutions.
Besides X everything is just like a new os

If anyone wants to know how...post a request in this thread, I'll see what I can do to reproduce the steps.

Please... Request here. I'm very noob...

I don't have any resolution problem. I need 3D only. For desktop effects, Google Earth... With "nv" would have 2d only.

GeForce 3 Ti works with nvidia-96?

[dreamCatalyst]

Please... Request here. I'm very noob...

Disclaimer: this is what I did, it worked for me, it might not for you. This could break your system.

So here's what I did. First off I used Synaptic to force and lock the versions for all the xserver-xorg packages. Synaptic requires a gui (duh) so a working X with the nv drivers is needed.

step 1) If you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (you shouldn't) back it up now.
step 2) Add the following repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://en.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main
deb-src http://en.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main

step 3) Update the repositories

sudo apt-get update

step 4) Purge xserver-xorg:

sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg

step 5) This step requires a bit of work. Fire up Synaptic, search for xserver-xorg, sort by name.
For pretty much each xserver-xorg package with the Ubuntu logo you'll want to "Force Version" (Ctrl+E) and select the Lucid version. Then choose "Lock version".
If Synaptic wants to mark other packages choose Cancel each time otherwise you'll simply get an error-message that it can't/won't be able to install.

For completeness here is the list of packages and their versions I locked.
I wanted to do this step with some script-fu but couldn't figure out a good way to lock (pin) the packages. Maybe someone else can make a suggestion.

xserver-xorg=1:7.5+5ubuntu1
xserver-xorg-core=2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7
xserver-xorg-input-evdev=1:2.3.2-5ubuntu1
xserver-xorg-input-mouse=1:1.5.0-1
xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse=1:12.6.5-4ubuntu2
xserver-xorg-input-wacom=1:0.10.5-0ubuntu4
xserver-xorg-video-apm=1:1.2.2-1
xserver-xorg-video-ark=1:0.7.2-1
xserver-xorg-video-chips=1:1.2.2-1
xserver-xorg-video-cirrus=1:1.3.2-1ubuntu1
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev=1:0.4.1-1ubuntu1
xserver-xorg-video-geode=2.11.8-4
xserver-xorg-video-i128=1:1.3.3-1
xserver-xorg-video-i740=1:1.3.2-1
xserver-xorg-video-intel=2:2.9.1-3ubuntu5
xserver-xorg-video-mga=1:1.4.11.dfsg-2ubuntu1
xserver-xorg-video-neomagic=1:1.2.4-2
xserver-xorg-video-nv=1:2.1.15-1ubuntu3
xserver-xorg-video-radeon=1:6.13.0-1ubuntu5
xserver-xorg-video-rendition=1:4.2.3-1
xserver-xorg-video-s3=1:0.6.3-1
xserver-xorg-video-s3virge=1:1.10.4-1
xserver-xorg-video-savage=1:2.3.1-1ubuntu1
xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion=1:1.7.3-1
xserver-xorg-video-sis=1:0.10.2-2
xserver-xorg-video-sisusb=1:0.9.3-1
xserver-xorg-video-tdfx=1:1.4.3-1
xserver-xorg-video-trident=1:1.3.3-1
xserver-xorg-video-tseng=1:1.2.3-1
xserver-xorg-video-v4l=1:0.2.0-4
xserver-xorg-video-vesa=1:2.3.0-1ubuntu1
xserver-xorg-video-vmware=1:10.16.9-1
xserver-xorg-video-voodoo=1:1.2.3-1

step 6) Reinstall xserver-xorg

sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg

You should now see a list of packages it wants to install. Verify that these are the "older" (Lucid) versions and then go ahead.

step 7) After restarting X you should be done, if the nvidia-driver won't load you might want to try running:

sudo nvidia-xconfig

GeForce 3 Ti works with nvidia-96?

Not sure but I think so. Use google for this one

[LaughingHorse]

How long do you guys expect ancient hardware to be supported by new OS's?

Till the hardware dies. Why throw out a perfectly good working piece of hardware?

Wasn't part of the promise of Linux you could run it on old "obsolete hardware?"

The problem I am experiencing is really weird. Now, sometimes when I boot up, everything seems fine. Other times I get a page full of lines of text and a command prompt.

And everything did work perfectly in Lucid.

A suggestion for any developer of Ubuntu "listening" why not add a routine in upgrades that searches the existing hardware and lets the person upgrading know of potential conflicts before they do the upgrade, and possibly ways to get around it for the time being?

[cascade9]

How long do you guys expect ancient hardware to be supported by new OS's?

I have one of these graphics cards in a system at home and that also has an 800MHz Pentium III processor and 768MB of RAM (maxed out). It's still running 8.04.

At some point you have to hang it up and move on.

It's so old that here are the supported Windows OS's:

WHQL-certified for Windows XP, Windows
Me, Windows 2000, Windows NT, and
Windows 98

Here's what you'll see at the bottom of the data sheet for this device:

Registered trademark NVIDIA® Corporation, 2002. 4 x 4 Evo 2 copyright 2001

So I'd highly recommend newer hardware or an older OS.

A MX440 will run in vista, at least (possibly win7 but I havent tried that). With vista, you HAVE to us the built-in vista driver. BTW, the main reason why there is no offical support for the MX440 is because the MX440 is a DX7 card, vista + win7 need a DX9 cards, but vista with a MX440 worked for me (thats also the reason why the 3Ti and 4Ti card dont have offical vista/win7 drivers, they are only DX8 cards)

10.10 would have no problems supporting the 96.xx drivers right now if it was using xorg 1.8.x, and the 96.xx drivers should get a version that works with xorg 1.9 sooner or later.

[Slim Odds]

Till the hardware dies. Why throw out a perfectly good working piece of hardware?

Wasn't part of the promise of Linux you could run it on old "obsolete hardware?"

The problem I am experiencing is really weird. Now, sometimes when I boot up, everything seems fine. Other times I get a page full of lines of text and a command prompt.

And everything did work perfectly in Lucid.

A suggestion for any developer of Ubuntu "listening" why not add a routine in upgrades that searches the existing hardware and lets the person upgrading know of potential conflicts before they do the upgrade, and possibly ways to get around it for the time being?

If you want to run on really old hardware, use really old software.

That "promise" that you speak of can only be taken so far. Should 10.10 also have CGA support?

If you like the way that it worked with Lucid, you should keep using Lucid. It's an LTS and that means that you can use it for a long time.