I think it's time for all new distributions of Linux to take up Motorola's mantra ==> Wireless by Default - Wired by Exception. There's too many problems setting up wireless, and it's taking a lot out of everyones schedule. Newbies want to install Ubuntu, and get online... and ride the wave without having to play all these games. The wiser spend a lot of time trying to help out these people. What say you all?