my dad wanted a SKY+ box for Christmas.
for several reasons id rather find an alternative (even a closed source as SKY=NEWS=FOX=EVIL )

however can any of the alternatives get reliable listing for SKY channels?
are they're any cheep pre-built mythTV (im happy building one but my dad wouldn't be so keen since on my 1st build 3 years ago i bricked his PC)?

thx for the help