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    Tutorials Section Re-opening

    Staff are currently discussing the situation in this area again.

    The possibility being that we will re-open the old tutorial area to more or less the state it was before.

    Before I post more - the staff would like to thank all those who've been involved in moving threads to the wiki.

    If we do it's possible that the old method of moderating threads prior to them appearing will be gone.

    We'd be expecting users to make their own decisions on it's use for them and whether they wished to follow it.

    We are also currently looking into a Thanks plugin - this could possibly be used by people to say 'works for me'

    This thread is here for you to make your views on this known.

    Any posts 'trolling' the previous decision will be removed, please follow the CoC.

    Bear in mind that this is still in the early discussion stage and nothing has been set in stone.

    EDIT - this won't affect the wiki forum - that will remain for people who prefer to use wiki to write collaborative tutorials
    Last edited by Elfy; April 5th, 2013 at 07:16 PM.

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    Re: Tutorials Section Re-opening

    Yay ! Any access to any tutorials is a good thing; particularly for new users in getting acclimated to ubuntu. I should hope that ubuntuforums.org is the gateway to further information.

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    Re: Tutorials Section Re-opening

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfy View Post
    Staff are currently discussing the situation in this area again.

    The possibility being that we will re-open the old tutorial area to more or less the state it was before. ...
    =D> ... Thank you all for considering this. It would be great to see it open again imo. Cheers.

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    Re: Tutorials Section Re-opening

    Interesting, but it's a bit difficult to express views without knowing more detail about the plans for this.
    What's the goal?
    What's wrong with the way it currently works?
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    Re: Tutorials Section Re-opening

    I would agree - knowing something about the background to this would be helpful.

    Presumably the original plan to migrate everything to the wiki hit some snags, or some disadvantages were discovered that weren't thought of originally. It would help to know a bit more about these.

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    Re: Tutorials Section Re-opening

    ?
    Just about everything that was worth migrating to the wiki was in fact, migrated. A large majority of threads in T&T are pretty outdated.
    So what about the duplication of effort rationale that was the basis for the original forums-to-wiki move?

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    Re: Tutorials Section Re-opening

    Tutorial section seems like a good idea, however I wasn't around when it was disabled
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    Re: Tutorials Section Re-opening

    Quote Originally Posted by popey View Post
    Interesting, but it's a bit difficult to express views without knowing more detail about the plans for this.
    What's the goal?
    What's wrong with the way it currently works?
    It was closed to new posts for a few reasons, mainly because it had none of the advantages of a wiki. So

    A tutorial can only be edited by the original poster (OP) or forum staff. While there were many excellently maintained tutorials, there were many many more that were outdated and possibly downright dangerous because they were old and unmaintained. Looking forward, it would be impossible for the forum staff to maintain every tutorial, let alone have the specialist knowledge to do so.

    So moving these tutorials to the wiki would allow others to take these tutorials and keep them up to date.

    On the other hand, the tutorials and tips section allowed an ongoing conversation with the OP which can help maintain the quality of the tutorial, questions are asked in the thread, things move forward and the documentation is improved.

    So like Elfy said in the first post, we are revisiting the question and would appreciate some input.

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    Re: Tutorials Section Re-opening

    Ideally, and this is just my opinion, tutorials should be OP-independent. I'm quite satisfied with the Wiki way.
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    Re: Tutorials Section Re-opening

    Quote Originally Posted by vasa1 View Post
    Ideally, and this is just my opinion, tutorials should be OP-independent. I'm quite satisfied with the Wiki way.
    There were often many helpers answering problems in the old Tutorials I used to use, not just the OPs. Tutorials like mplayer, ffmpeg, vlc, for the latest development releases, for example, were always well supported by a group of users and their OPs. Those are just to name a few of the good/well maintained tutorials I have had the pleasure of using.

    I do now use the wiki and it is fine for some (including myself, most of the time), others prefer more personalized support, particularly when following complex instructions and encountering problems. The old tutorials section excelled in personal support in technical areas, it may need some updating or closing of older/less useful threads, but is worth it in my opinion for the "style" of support it can offer in conjunction with the wiki. Cheers.

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