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    Wink Installing Desktop from 13.04 Server

    Because I have a RAID setup so I had to get the Server ISO and then use command like 'sudo apt-get install aptitude and the aptitude ubuntu-gnome-desktop I happen to like Gnome 3 but the pre-kKDE 4.10 is nice as well. Install synpatic for that stuff.

    I use the last kernel 3.6 for raring in order to install VMware WS without a giant hassle.

    I like this OS very much.

    I find that I need need to do as 'sudo aptitude update and sudo ap[titude dist-upgrade every day and keep up with the devs. When it falls apart I'll just get another daily build land start again.

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    Re: Installing Desktop from 13.04 Server

    Quote Originally Posted by mrfelker View Post
    Because I have a RAID setup so I had to get the Server ISO and then use command like 'sudo apt-get install aptitude and the aptitude ubuntu-gnome-desktop I happen to like Gnome 3 but the pre-kKDE 4.10 is nice as well. Install synpatic for that stuff.

    I use the last kernel 3.6 for raring in order to install VMware WS without a giant hassle.

    I like this OS very much.

    I find that I need need to do as 'sudo aptitude update and sudo ap[titude dist-upgrade every day and keep up with the devs. When it falls apart I'll just get another daily build land start again.
    Carefull with dist-upgrade... Watch what is going to be removed (if any) before hitting Y...
    Example:
    Code:
    :~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade 
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    Calculating upgrade... Done
    The following packages will be REMOVED:
      lightdm-remote-session-uccsconfigure ubuntu-desktop unity
    The following packages will be upgraded:
      compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome compiz-plugins compiz-plugins-default
      libcompizconfig0 libdecoration0
    7 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Need to get 6,177 kB of archives.
    After this operation, 5,281 kB disk space will be freed.
    Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

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    Re: Installing Desktop from 13.04 Server

    If that happens with a dist-upgrade, what happens with a standard upgrade?
    Worst?

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    Re: Installing Desktop from 13.04 Server

    We are about half way through the development cycle. It is the time when we see more visual changes as we update daily than earlier on in the cycle. The login screen now says 13.04. Design is becoming more important in Ubuntu and so it should be interesting to see what comes down from the repositories for Ubuntu between now and 14.04 release day.

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    Re: Installing Desktop from 13.04 Server

    Quote Originally Posted by ibjsb4 View Post
    If that happens with a dist-upgrade, what happens with a standard upgrade?
    Worst?
    This might help:

    http://askubuntu.com/questions/19465...t-dist-upgrade

    If you're not sure and apt-get dist-upgrade (or aptitude full-upgrade) wants to remove stuff run apt-get upgrade (or aptitude safe-upgrade) instead.

    It's also worth bearing in mind that if you're going to install a DE/WM you'd probably be better off starting with the mini.iso instead of the server iso:

    http://askubuntu.com/questions/11109.../111099#111099

    http://askubuntu.com/questions/44185...nt-from-server

    You'll find the latest minimal netboot (mini.iso) images here:

    http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubu...mages/netboot/

    http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubu...mages/netboot/
    Last edited by paul_in_london; January 31st, 2013 at 02:30 PM. Reason: Text added

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    Re: Installing Desktop from 13.04 Server

    you'd probably be better off starting with the mini.iso instead of the server iso
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...7#post12395977

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    Re: Installing Desktop from 13.04 Server

    From this page:

    only on the "server install": linux-server kernel and modules
    only on the "command-line install": linux-generic kernel, modules and restricted modules + acpi, acpid and language-pack-en
    ...you may wish to also try the MinimalCD as a base starting point
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/In...wMemorySystems

    While the minimal system installed using the Ubuntu Server image is undoubtedly a genuine minimal system as known and loved by minimalist lovers, there is a slight differences in the package package selection compared to the Minimal CD. In fact, Minimal CD pulls in 7 extra packages during installation, which I (@Oxwivi) personally deem them to be all but redundant. But for the information freaks (like myself) who will have nagging doubts if the details are not known, the seven in question are: daemon, dictionaries-common, discover, discover-data, language-pack-gnome-en, language-pack-gnome-en-base, libdiscover2, mpt-status, wamerican and wbritish.
    http://askubuntu.com/questions/20312...net-connection

    The other aspect to consider is that (by default) the "Minimal" install will give you a kernel optimised for desktop use:

    The Server Edition uses the Deadline I/O scheduler instead of the CFQ scheduler used by the Desktop Edition.
    Preemption is turned off in the Server Edition
    The timer interrupt is 100 Hz in the Server Edition and 250 Hz in the Desktop Edition
    The Server Edition is optimized for i686 processors while the Desktop Edition is optimized for both the i586 and i686
    Virtualization is better supported in the Server Edition through the enabling of IPC namespaces, and the Xen hypervisor
    Multiple routing tables for the IPv6 protocol are also supported in the Server Edition
    http://askubuntu.com/questions/44185...nt-from-server
    Last edited by paul_in_london; January 31st, 2013 at 03:18 PM. Reason: Line deleted

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    Re: Installing Desktop from 13.04 Server

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesemill View Post
    Not true. A minimal server installation won't have anything on it that you don't choose. Apache and everything else you mentioned are optional extras that you can choose if you want to.

    Also the Desktop and Server versions now use identical kernels as well.

    For a package and memory comparison for the different minimal installs check out my post here.
    I stand corrected. I didn't realise that, by default (i.e. ignoring the advanced cli option which gives a choice of kernels), the server and desktop installs now use identical kernels.

    @Cheesemill - thanks for the post about the package set differences.

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1978444

    http://askubuntu.com/questions/12249...kernel-flavour
    Last edited by paul_in_london; January 31st, 2013 at 03:35 PM. Reason: Couple of links added

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