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    Question safe to uninstall ardour?

    I'd like to remove ardour from my ubuntu studio (to keep my computer clean and not have too many programs).

    The software center tells me that to remove it, the packages "ubuntustudio-generation" and "ubuntustudio-recording" must also
    be removed.

    Is this safe, or will it break the system?

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    Re: safe to uninstall ardour?

    Do you use the related packages recording software ? If you don't use the programs and don't get any warnings I would say it's alright to remove. You can reinstall if there are problems.

    Ardour is available in Ubuntu(Unity) but I don't know if it is integrated into the desktop the same way as Ubuntu Studio(XFCE). U-Studio recording and the other package appearer independently in the synaptic package manager.
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    Re: safe to uninstall ardour?

    Break the sytem? No. Remove a major piece of usable engineering? Yes.
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    Re: safe to uninstall ardour?

    Quote Originally Posted by mnieber View Post
    I'd like to remove ardour from my ubuntu studio (to keep my computer clean and not have too many programs).

    The software center tells me that to remove it, the packages "ubuntustudio-generation" and "ubuntustudio-recording" must also
    be removed.

    Is this safe, or will it break the system?
    Here is the extrat from my dpkg log:
    Code:
    2012-07-10 00:10:01 remove ubuntustudio-recording 0.100 <none>
    2012-07-10 00:10:02 remove ubuntustudio-generation 0.100 <none>
    2012-07-10 00:10:03 remove pulseaudio-module-jack 1:1.1-0ubuntu15.1 <none>
    2012-09-03 19:28:53 remove ubuntustudio-video 0.100 <none>
    2012-09-03 19:28:54 remove openshot 1.4.0-1ubuntu1 <none>
    2012-09-09 22:14:12 remove ubuntustudio-graphics 0.100 <none>
    2012-09-09 22:14:12 remove gimp-ufraw 0.18-1.1build1 <none>
    2012-09-09 22:14:13 remove gimp-resynthesizer 0.16-1.1 <none>
    2012-09-09 22:14:13 remove gimp-plugin-registry 3.5.4-1 <none>
    2012-09-09 22:14:14 remove gimp-gmic 1.5.0.8+dfsg-1 <none>
    2012-09-09 22:14:15 remove gimp-gap 2.6.0+dfsg-2 <none>
    2012-09-09 22:14:15 remove gimp 2.6.12-1ubuntu1 <none>
    So, as you can see, it is safe to remove those meta packages.
    Last edited by jejeman; January 19th, 2013 at 10:38 AM.

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    Re: safe to uninstall ardour?

    I would leave well enough alone, Arduor is obviously well integrated with the U Studio desktop and you may end up with an unstable mess.
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    Re: safe to uninstall ardour?

    This will not break the system.

    Just, it will break two meta packages in wich Ardour is a dependency:
    "ubuntustudio-generation" and "ubuntustudio-recording"

    If you don't do audio recording at all, you can safely uninstall Ardour. The system will still be able to install updates, etc.
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    Re: safe to uninstall ardour?

    Just to make all clear.
    As you can see in my dpkg log, because I wanted to remove "pulseaudio-module-jack" the meta packages "ubuntustudio-recording ubuntustudio-generation" had to go too. These meta packages do not remove all the packages they install. It only removes just them. So all the packages remain. For example, ubuntustudio-recording depends on:
    Code:
    a2jmidid
        Daemon for exposing legacy ALSA MIDI in JACK MIDI systems 
    
    alsa-tools
        Console based ALSA utilities for specific hardware 
    
    alsa-tools-gui
        GUI based ALSA utilities for specific hardware 
    
    ardour
        digital audio workstation (graphical gtk2 interface)
        also a virtual package provided by ardour-i686 
    
    audacity
        fast, cross-platform audio editor 
    
    cdrdao
        records CDs in Disk-At-Once (DAO) mode 
    
    ffado-dbus-server
        FFADO D-Bus server 
    
    ffado-mixer-qt4
        FFADO D-Bus mixer applets (QT4) 
    
    ffado-tools
        FFADO debugging and firmware tools 
    
    gladish
        graphical interface for LADI Session Handler 
    
    guitarix
        Rock guitar amplifier for Jack 
    
    hydrogen
        advanced drum machine/step sequencer 
    
    hydrogen-drumkits
        drumkits for Hydrogen 
    
    jack-rack
        LADSPA effects "rack" for JACK 
    
    jackd
        JACK Audio Connection Kit (default server package) 
    
    jamin
        Audio mastering from a mixed down multitrack source with JACK 
    
    libavcodec-extra-53
        Libav codec library 
    
    libavdevice-extra-53
        Libav device handling library 
    
    libavfilter-extra-2
        Libav filter library 
    
    libavformat-extra-53
        Libav video postprocessing library 
    
    libavutil-extra-51
        Libav utility library 
    
    libpostproc-extra-52
        Libav video postprocessing library 
    
    libswscale-extra-2
        Libav video software scaling library 
    
    meterbridge
        A collection of Audio meters for the JACK audio server 
    
    mudita24
        ALSA GUI control tool for Envy24 (ice1712) soundcards 
    
    patchage
        modular patch bay for Jack audio and Alsa Midi 
    
    pulseaudio-module-jack
        jackd modules for PulseAudio sound server 
    
    qjackctl
        User interface for controlling the JACK sound server 
    
    rakarrack
        Simple and easy guitar effects processor for GNU/Linux 
    
    zynjacku
        JACK based host for LV2 synths and LV2 plugins
    As you can see, these dependecies are only effective upon install, not upon removal. I still have all those packages exept "pulseaudio-module-jack". I can still make music without any problems related to packages. Now, if I want to remove Ardour it only removes just it.
    So, "system" will not "break" if you remove these meta packages that I have removed (ubuntustudio-recording, ubuntustudio-generation, ubuntustudio-video, ubuntustudio-graphics). I can still record audio, generate audio, do video editing and graphics. (Regarding to my dpkg log) I use Kdenlive for video editing and GIMP 2.8.2 for image manipulation.

    I hope this will make clear all the confusion that these meta packages can bring.

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