Ubuntu 12.10 is crap

[Welly Wu]

I had a lot of problems when I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit from 12.04.1 64 bit LTS. Suddenly, I could not print to my network printer, share folders and files on my Samba server, and I could not install or update popular third-party software apps like My Unity or Armor Forge. Basic functionality stopped working properly with 12.10. I re-installed Ubuntu 12.04.1 64 bit LTS and everything works right out of the box again. It's good to see that the speed and performance have returned as well. I found Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit to be a little bit slow and pokey. Another thing that I noticed is that there were a lot of random crashes with 12.10. Stuff kept breaking randomly and crashing. It was a very uneven user experience to say the least.

At this point, I don't know what to expect of 13.04 64 bit, but I am wary about upgrading. I have found LTS releases to be rock solid in terms of high quality and usability. I don't mind upgrading my operating system, but I hate re-installing an older version of my operating system because the newer one was just not as good as the old one. This was the case when I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit.

I really tried to like Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit, but there were a lot of problems that I could not solve for unknown reasons. The Samba server and printer issues were show stoppers for me. I lost printing and file sharing capabilities at home.

I said before that LTS releases are the best and I am more convinced that they are the only Ubuntu releases worth upgrading to in the future. I'm tired of distro hopping and I am tired of poor quality Ubuntu releases that force users to beta test new features for free. I want my System76 Lemur Ultra Thin (lemu4) notebook PC to run Ubuntu 64 bit LTS releases like 12.04.1 with the fewest possible problems over a long period of time. I don't want to fix a lot of problems caused by upgrading to non LTS releases in the future.

I learned a hard lesson. As much as I like new features as the next Ubuntu user, it's just not worth sacrificing the stability of a LTS release for a couple of nifty new features. Ubuntu 12.10 lacks any killer features worth upgrading for in my opinion. It's more of an evolutionary upgrade than a necessity for me.

Ubuntu 12.10 also slowed down my recently purchased System76 PC quite a bit. It took a couple of extra seconds to cold boot and it took at least an extra 10 seconds to shut down or reboot. I spent more time waiting for Ubuntu 12.10 to become ready to use than it was worth the trouble to upgrade to it in the first place. Compiz constantly broke and crashed a lot. Ubuntu Unity 6.8 was quite slow.

Next time, I'll wait for the professional reviews to come in. Linux Format gave Ubuntu 12.10 a 6 out of 10 which is quite poor. It's a solid D score which is barely passing. How Canonical can go from an A- for Ubuntu 12.04 to a D for Ubuntu 12.10 in only 6 months is beyond me.

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I had no issues with 12.10, it is many things but crap isn't one of them.



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[cariboo907]

I'd suggest you do some research, before upgrading to an interim release, the U+1 sub-forum, is a great place to get an idea of what to expect.

The interim releases, are expected to be more buggy than the LTS releases as this is where the developers try out new features for inclusion in the next LTS release.

MyUnity doesn't work, because the developer basically has to re-write the application because of changes in the way settings in Unity are made.

There are also easy modifications that you can make to compiz, to make it perform faster.

Yes Quantal has warts, but they should be expected, because of the nature of interim releases. If you don't feel like dealing with unfinished features, I'd suggest staying away from the interim release, and only upgrade when there is a new LTS release.

[Welly Wu]

I guess I have to learn how to be politically correct and diplomatic in my life. Oh well.

Ubuntu 12.10 caused a lot of problems for me. It was not worth the price of upgrading in hindsight. I guess coming from Microsoft Windows 7 and 8, I expect features to be complete and polished. That's probably the biggest difference I see between Windows and GNU/Linux after switching for almost an entire year in 2012.

Ubuntu 12.04.1 64 bit LTS is not broken and I have no future plans to fix it. I like how things are running smoothly right now and I don't want to have to upgrade to an interim release just to see all of my hard work go down the drain.

It's exciting to see where Canonical is taking Ubuntu in the future, but I demand that extra stability and polish in my daily PC usage. I also demand long term service and support beyond 18 months. I guess LTS releases are the way to go for me in the long term future.

[lancest]

Gnome Shell is great on Ubuntu 12.10.
For me very stable several machines.

[Tamlynmac]

cariboo907
The interim releases, are expected to be more buggy than the LTS releases as this is where the developers try out new features for inclusion in the next LTS release.

I don't wish to be argumentative. But, why is 12.10 or any interim release available to new users without notification of it's potential bug issues? When going to the Ubuntu site download page it states:

Ubuntu 12.10 will be supported for two years and includes cutting-edge new features that make your music, videos, documents and apps much easier to access.

Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS is a long-term support release. While it lacks some new features, it will receive guaranteed support for five years from April 2012.

If indeed the interim releases are expected to be buggy, why not notify new users of this fact and suggest they start their Ubuntu/Linux experience with an LTS release?
IMHO the 12.10 description seems significantly more attractive (especially to a new user) than that of the 12.04. Almost enticing new users to install the "expected to be more buggy" interim release.

Just my $0.02 & observations.

[KiwiNZ]

A thread headed Ubuntu****** is crap is flame bait.

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12.10 (or interim releases) is not design to be more buggy than any other release of Ubuntu, LTS releases how ever are by their design less likely to be buggy.

There are enough testimonials that will show that the upgrade to 12.04 from 10.x or 11.x was the worst ever and the user asking the question why is Ubuntu becoming more buggy. In fact I am sure looking on the Internet you will find similar threads for every release of Windows and even OSX. Oh, and any thread by any number of people expressing any other opinion about any product you may ever wish.

Newer and more bleeding edge code that has had less time to be tested in every conceivable iteration of hardware and other software will typically be found in-between LTS releases, they have to be released sometime right?!

But this whole argument and counter argument fills several threads in Recurring already in any case...


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