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    New Laptop Struggles - Lenovo Ideapad z585 - no Grub?

    Hey all,

    My new Lenovo Ideapad Z585 shipped in yesterday. I'm liking it a lot, and couldn't wait to get Ubuntu on it.

    Lenovo ships with 4 primary partitions already installed: 2 for Windows 7, 2 for Lenovo recovery. I backed up my system, removed one of the Lenovo recovery partitions, and went to work.

    The Ubuntu 12.10 live installer does not recognize the Windows 7 install, so I am forced to use the "Something Else" option. I didn't think it was any big deal, and I found on askubuntu how to set up the partitions manually.

    So I just set up a 10g logical partition (because I may upgrade to 8gig ram soon - playing it safe), as well as a 300gb primary ext4 Ubuntu partition. SHouls work right?

    Installs, finishes, reboots, and boots straight into windows. No sign that Ubuntu is even on the machine. What am I doing wrong?

    Thanks.
    Lenovo Ideapad Z585 with the latest Ubuntu.

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    Re: New Laptop Struggles - Lenovo Ideapad z585 - no Grub?

    No, it shouldn't work. Not recognizing win7 is there was your first clue. If it can't see the other OS on the disk, it can't see the disk correctly out of what ever reason.

    If the laptop uses UEFI boot, did you install ubuntu in uefi mode?

    Boot into live mode with the ubuntu cd and in terminal post the output of:
    sudo parted -l (small L)
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    Re: New Laptop Struggles - Lenovo Ideapad z585 - no Grub?

    Ay ay. Thanks for the quick response. This the HDD stripped of any Ubuntu install.

    Code:
    Model: ATA ST750LM022 HN-M7 (scsi)
    Disk /dev/sda: 750GB
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
    Partition Table: msdos
    
    Number  Start   End    Size    Type     File system  Flags
     1      1049kB  211MB  210MB   primary  ntfs         boot
     2      211MB   220GB  220GB   primary  ntfs
     4      729GB   750GB  21.0GB  primary  ntfs         diag
    Lenovo Ideapad Z585 with the latest Ubuntu.

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    Re: New Laptop Struggles - Lenovo Ideapad z585 - no Grub?

    I don't see any issues with that. You don't seem to be using UEFI since there is no EFI system partition, plus the partition table is msdos and win7 can't work with uefi on msdos table.

    Win7 still boots fine right?
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    Re: New Laptop Struggles - Lenovo Ideapad z585 - no Grub?

    Hi,
    I had a quick glance at the User Manual. Apparently the computer can boot in UEFI mode. You seem to already have established that Windows 7 is installed in Legacy mode. Is it worth checking whether Ubuntu is booting in Legacy mode? You might be able check this using the 'Boot device menu'.

    How can I change the boot mode?

    There are two boot modes: UEFI and Legacy. To change the boot mode,
    start the BIOS setup utility and set boot mode to UEFI or Legacy support
    on the boot menu.
    The computer does not start from a device you want.
    • See the Boot menu of the BIOS setup utility. Make sure that
      the EFI/Boot device priority in the BIOS setup utility is set
      so that the computer starts from the device you want.
    • Press the Novo button when the computer is powered off
      and select Boot Device Menu. Then select the device you
      want the computer to start from.
    http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/prod...s/default.page
    (No direct link)

    p.s.
    Some other ways of checking whether you're booting Linux in EFI mode:
    http://askubuntu.com/questions/16256...i-uefi-or-bios
    Last edited by davidryderuk; October 28th, 2012 at 11:37 AM.

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    Re: New Laptop Struggles - Lenovo Ideapad z585 - no Grub?

    @Darkod: Yep, Windows 7 boots fine. Well if Windows can't use UEFI mode on the msdos setup, why is David suggesting UEFI mode?

    @david: I can't check the Ubuntu boot because I can't even boot into it. Once installed, I have no way to access the Ubuntu partitions. It boots straight into windows.

    Sorry, I'm not too experienced with boot modes. Which one exactly do I want? I'm assuming I need both to boot into UEFI mode?
    Last edited by Minipalmer; October 28th, 2012 at 08:22 PM.
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    Re: New Laptop Struggles - Lenovo Ideapad z585 - no Grub?

    New development: Now, on install, it recognizes that there is another OS. However, after install, and reboot, it boots directly back into windows.
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    Re: New Laptop Struggles - Lenovo Ideapad z585 - no Grub?

    OK, probably you only need to add grub. You can use the boot-repair tool which should detect both ubuntu and windows and do the job for you. Or, only use boot-repair to create the bootinfo details and post their link here so we can have a look. After looking what is where, we can give you commands to run to add grub2 manually.
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair

    You can run that from live mode.
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    Re: New Laptop Struggles - Lenovo Ideapad z585 - no Grub?

    Well if Windows can't use UEFI mode on the msdos setup, why is David suggesting UEFI mode?
    My idea was to check whether the live cd was booting in EFI mode by default. If it was it could explain the difficulty in booting the final installation, since EFI mode requires an extra partition. In that case I probably would have suggested booting the livecd in legacy mode and then either reinstalling or, like Darkov suggested, repairing grub.

    Sorry for any confusion,
    Good luck.

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    Re: New Laptop Struggles - Lenovo Ideapad z585 - no Grub?

    Well chaps I just got around to running boot-repair and it turned out to be a disaster. GRUB comes up with only one option: Ubuntu, and when I run it, nothing happens. Therefore I have GRUB now with no access to either OS.

    Working on removing GRUB, will update.
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