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    Question Give me one reason why Mac OS X is better than Ubuntu...

    Hi all

    I recently managed to get Mac OS X 10.8 running in Virtualbox. After playing around with it and trying to work in it I came to the conclusion that it sucks.

    Reasons:

    1. Inconsistent look of the apps. One has old yellow paper, the other leather, some has shiny metal finishes. All to gimmicky to my taste.
    2. The default font is not even close to the quality of the Ubuntu font set.
    3. Much to vendor specific and locked down to be any fun.
    4. Cumbersome interface after having being spoilt with unity.
    5. The best app I found installed by default was vim, getting gvim setup on Mac OS X was way slower then just doing a sudo apt-get install vim-gnome

    I own an iPhone 4S and an iPad 2, so I was contemplating getting a macbook or one of those mini macs. However after this experience I will take the same amount of cash I needed to get one of those and get myself the very best laptop that amount of cash can get, and install Ubuntu 12.04.1 immediately.

    But maybe I am missing something? Surely there has to be a valid reason why the mac books are so expensive right?

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    Re: Give me one reason why Mac OS X is better than Ubuntu...

    I saw Mac OS/X once.

    My first impression was that the icons were very good looking. It makes sense to use a dock when your icons look that good.

    Otherwise, If I was going to use a proprietary OS I would use windows 7 and get 100% app support. But something more proprietary than windows and less compatible than Linux?
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    Re: Give me one reason why Mac OS X is better than Ubuntu...

    Hah, that's an easy one.

    Installing programs. Unzip DMG, drag file in the DMG to Program folder, done.

    Not even Synaptic can beat that (not even the CLI, for by the time you have typed apt-get, I have dragged the program to the Program folder).

    The best thing that Apple has ever made, in my opinion, is OS X.
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    Re: Give me one reason why Mac OS X is better than Ubuntu...

    Manual unzip? Sounds too much of a complication.
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    Re: Give me one reason why Mac OS X is better than Ubuntu...

    Quote Originally Posted by georgelappies View Post
    Surely there has to be a valid reason why the mac books are so expensive right?
    If given enough time, I am sure I can come up with a few answers that are as sarcastic as your question looks

    Anyway, Apple has a serious image problem with me (not that they would care about that one nanosecond); one as bad as Microsoft. An image problem that is in fact so bad that I will never buy Apple again.
    "Think different"? Not with Apple no more.
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    Re: Give me one reason why Mac OS X is better than Ubuntu...

    Quote Originally Posted by vexorian View Post
    Manual unzip? Sounds too much of a complication.
    You apparently haven't tried it yet

    A DMG is like a ZIP file in Windows or a DEB (or RPMs or tar.gzs) in Linux. Do you never download DEBs (or RPMs)?

    But alright, what about un-installing a program, then? in OS X, drag the program icon from the Program folder to the bin, done.
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    Re: Give me one reason why Mac OS X is better than Ubuntu...

    Quote Originally Posted by Skara Brae View Post
    Hah, that's an easy one.

    Installing programs. Unzip DMG, drag file in the DMG to Program folder, done.

    Not even Synaptic can beat that (not even the CLI, for by the time you have typed apt-get, I have dragged the program to the Program folder).

    The best thing that Apple has ever made, in my opinion, is OS X.
    yeah that is worth so much more money than sudo apt-get install name of program lol. not much difference than a linux tarball with a launcher in the extracted folder. aka firefox on linux. os wise i can't think of any reason to use osx over linux besides app compatibility.
    Whoever came up with the phrase "There is no such thing as a stupid question" obviously never had the internet.

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    Re: Give me one reason why Mac OS X is better than Ubuntu...

    Quote Originally Posted by georgelappies View Post
    Hi all

    I recently managed to get Mac OS X 10.8 running in Virtualbox. After playing around with it and trying to work in it I came to the conclusion that it sucks.

    Reasons:

    1. Inconsistent look of the apps. One has old yellow paper, the other leather, some has shiny metal finishes. All to gimmicky to my taste.
    2. The default font is not even close to the quality of the Ubuntu font set.
    3. Much to vendor specific and locked down to be any fun.
    4. Cumbersome interface after having being spoilt with unity.
    5. The best app I found installed by default was vim, getting gvim setup on Mac OS X was way slower then just doing a sudo apt-get install vim-gnome

    I own an iPhone 4S and an iPad 2, so I was contemplating getting a macbook or one of those mini macs. However after this experience I will take the same amount of cash I needed to get one of those and get myself the very best laptop that amount of cash can get, and install Ubuntu 12.04.1 immediately.

    But maybe I am missing something? Surely there has to be a valid reason why the mac books are so expensive right?
    1. I take it you don't use any Qt apps at all in Ubuntu?
    2. One of the biggest complaints by typophiles is that Linux does a terrible job of font rendering.
    3. I agree with you there.
    4. And I agree with you here as well. Though, OSX 10.8 has made some really great improvements and it doesn't just feel like a crappy Compiz clone anymore.
    5. What's hard about double-clicking a DMG and dragging one icon into another?

    Granted, overall I agree and would never buy a Mac (though, I do have to work on them at my job), but some complaints are valid while others are really not.

    Quote Originally Posted by mamamia88
    yeah that is worth so much more money than sudo apt-get install name of program lol. not much difference than a linux tarball with a launcher in the extracted folder. aka firefox on linux. os wise i can't think of any reason to use osx over linux besides app compatibility.
    It's so much easier than you're giving it credit for. You double-click a DMG file and a little window pops up with two icons. One is the app's icon, the other is your computer's Apps folder. There is a giant arrow pointing from the app icon to the folder icon. You have two options here: double-click the app icon to just run the executable or drag the icon to the app folder to install it.

    You simply cannot do that in Linux. If you can, please tell me what distro it is that allows that.

    I personally don't care because I am very comfortable with the terminal, but for most users, it's intimidating.

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    Re: Give me one reason why Mac OS X is better than Ubuntu...

    Quote Originally Posted by Skara Brae View Post
    But alright, what about un-installing a program, then? in OS X, drag the program icon from the Program folder to the bin, done.
    I've heard, and have not checked that some apps can leave behind configs or changes they've made to the system even after uninstalling them. It's because of OSX's simple paradigm of an app just being a folder with an executable and config files.

    Do you have any knowledge of that?

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    Re: Give me one reason why Mac OS X is better than Ubuntu...

    Yes, removing an app by the just remove from the program folder (or utilities folder) does level 'configuration' files... they are usually called plist files.

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