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    Ubuntu and Kubuntu fonts are different?

    I've tried to install both Kubuntu and Ubuntu. I really, really like Ubuntu fonts. They're big and thick. I was fan of ClearType for a long time, mostly because it makes fonts thick... I always thought Linux fonts were not good (even once contacted freetype developers for tweaks to recompile it with hinting, etc). But Ubuntu 9.10 changed my mind.

    I thought that Kubuntu would be the same, but with KDE. But I can't get fonts to look the same way as they do in Ubuntu! I tried to increase size, I set subpixel hinting with RGB mode, all the same as in Ubuntu. But I cannot get the same effect.

    Am I missing something? How do I get Kubuntu fonts to look exactly the same as Ubuntu ones?

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    Re: Ubuntu and Kubuntu fonts are different?

    Everytime I try Kubuntu, the fonts always push me back to Ubuntu, even after installing "kubuntu-restricted-extras". Has anyone figured this out?

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    Re: Ubuntu and Kubuntu fonts are different?

    Could it be autohinting? It makes certain fonts (or perhaps any font when in bold) wide and blobby. KDE doesn't offer to enable this.
    Code:
    $ sudo ln -s /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-autohint.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-autohint.conf
    That would enable it for all users. If you want to make it user-specific, add this tidbit to your ~/.fonts.conf file.
    Code:
    <?xml version='1.0'?>
    <!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd'>
    <fontconfig>
    
     <match target="font">
      <edit mode="assign" name="autohint">
       <bool>true</bool>				<!-- autohinting -->
      </edit>
     </match>
    
    </fontconfig>
    Omit the parts in red if they already exist.

    The changes should affect newly started applications. If you start them from a terminal, it will output errors if your .fonts.conf file has errors in it (with the line number where the error is), so that might be a good idea, to make sure it's set up properly.
    Last edited by Zorael; February 18th, 2010 at 03:41 PM. Reason: true != false
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    Re: Ubuntu and Kubuntu fonts are different?

    You forgot the matching tag at the end - oops, already fixed . Will try when I get a chance, but I doubt it is the reason.

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    Unhappy Re: Ubuntu and Kubuntu fonts are different?

    I tried this, it got better but still sucks. Letters are still a bit (hm, if that's a bit) blurry, and what's worse, some of that blurriness is colored, like if I selected BGR instead of RGB - but RGB is selected in both Settings and .fonts.conf. I even installed Liberation fonts (I use them in Ubuntu) but this didn't really improve much.

    I've attached a sample of the text.
    snapshot1.png
    Not sure if this will look the same on another monitor, of course. For me the word Dolphin is clearly color-blurred.

    What is VERY strange, if I set BGR mode in Settings/Fonts, the KDE menu and text in Konqueror text area gets non-color-blurred (though plain blurred) but app menus, and Konqeuror page fonts are color-blurred! When I set mode to RGB, Konqueror and menus are OK, but system menu is blurred like on attached picture. Seems like KDE applies different RGB/BGR modes to different widgets. Now, on my workplace monitor color blur is not that heavy; but for example the capital M has different stems' thickness. This never happens in Ubuntu.
    Last edited by queen3; December 9th, 2009 at 09:25 AM.

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    Re: Ubuntu and Kubuntu fonts are different?

    Shouldn't it be:

    Code:
    <match target="font">
      <edit mode="assign" name="autohint">
       <bool>true</bool>				<!-- autohinting -->
      </edit>
     </match>

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    Re: Ubuntu and Kubuntu fonts are different?

    Doh, yes. Edited.
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    Re: Ubuntu and Kubuntu fonts are different?

    Thanks

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    Re: Ubuntu and Kubuntu fonts are different?

    I've been looking to the solution to this problem for years (no exaggeration). The answer was autohint! Thanks, everyone!

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    Re: Ubuntu and Kubuntu fonts are different?


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