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    Ok, I want to install Ubuntu 7.10, or 8.04 on this machine:
    Tochiba Satellite 1730
    700MHz Processor
    192MB RAM
    10GB HDD, 1 partition, NTFS
    2.4GHz 108.11G Hawking SkyHawk Wireless PC Card.
    Windows 98SE Pre-installed version.
    CD Drive is non-functional.
    Floppy
    Drive is non functional
    I have a external Logitech trackball mouse installed on PS/2 slot, via USB-to-PS/2 adapter.
    I CAN use SD cards, via an adapter plugged into the USB 1 slot.
    New Power cord.
    RAM cannot be upgraded anymore.
    I have not been able so far to get an external DVD drive working, and the BIOS will not recognize it.
    As far as i know, the BIOS cannot boot off of anything other than the internal CD drive, the floppy drive, and the HDD.
    13 inch screen
    max resolution is 800x600
    annoying low refresh rate on screen, everything has a trail.

    Ok. I want to install Ubuntu on this machine. I have another PC running Ubuntu 7.10 (specs in signature), the only version of Windows I would ever install permanently, and of my will, is XP, and we do not have an extra copy of that. As I said, I do not have a CD drive, internal, or external, that I could boot a Live CD off of. I can download an ISO, but it will take 3&1/2 hours (I will do it, though.). Wubi will not work, I do not have enough RAM. I need a way to install Ubuntu.

    Thanks in advance.
    Dell Dimension 3000. 1.7GHz, 1GB RAM, 40GB (Windows XP, Windows 7 RC), 40GB (unformatted), 30 GB (Ubuntu 9.10) HDD. Blog: http://youthofeternity.wordpress.com

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    Re: Trouble installing Ubuntu

    You can install linux on a floppy drive and boot from there although I don't ubuntu would work for that.....

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    Re: Trouble installing Ubuntu

    Most computer also support network boot. If so do the following:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot

    That page also has a link to the mini.iso. That can be extracted and the files copies to your flash drive and booted off that if possible. Otherwise if you can boot off a floppy linux that allows you to access the flash drive, perhaps you can then copy the files to your hard drive to bood them (they are loaded to ram so it is okay if they are on the same drive you want to install linux to).

    Otherwise, just remove the hard drive and connect it to another computer, and put the contents of the mini.iso on it.

    Oh, if you do extract the mini.iso, the only change you need to do is rename isolinux.cfg to be syslinux.cfg.

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    Re: Trouble installing Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by picopir8 View Post
    Most computer also support network boot. If so do the following:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot

    That page also has a link to the mini.iso. That can be extracted and the files copies to your flash drive and booted off that if possible. Otherwise if you can boot off a floppy linux that allows you to access the flash drive, perhaps you can then copy the files to your hard drive to bood them (they are loaded to ram so it is okay if they are on the same drive you want to install linux to).

    Otherwise, just remove the hard drive and connect it to another computer, and put the contents of the mini.iso on it.

    Oh, if you do extract the mini.iso, the only change you need to do is rename isolinux.cfg to be syslinux.cfg.
    I do not know how to make a floppy drive tell the computer boot off of a USB or CD device, I have never used a floppy before. I also do not know how to do a network boot. I am mainly looking for a way to tell GRUB to boot off an iso file.
    Dell Dimension 3000. 1.7GHz, 1GB RAM, 40GB (Windows XP, Windows 7 RC), 40GB (unformatted), 30 GB (Ubuntu 9.10) HDD. Blog: http://youthofeternity.wordpress.com

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    Re: Trouble installing Ubuntu

    In order to make your computer boot off a USB, CD, or floppy you need to change your BIOS settings which can be easily done when your computer first is turned on and starts loading and you get the little message change settings press f12 or delete or maybe something else depending on computer. Then go to boot order or boot configuration ,again different for different computers, and just change the order which your computer looks for OS's to boot

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    Re: Trouble installing Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by C!oud View Post
    In order to make your computer boot off a USB, CD, or floppy you need to change your BIOS settings which can be easily done when your computer first is turned on and starts loading and you get the little message change settings press f12 or delete or maybe something else depending on computer. Then go to boot order or boot configuration ,again different for different computers, and just change the order which your computer looks for OS's to boot
    Yes, I am well aware of that. However, this lappy is an old machine, and does not have that capability.
    Dell Dimension 3000. 1.7GHz, 1GB RAM, 40GB (Windows XP, Windows 7 RC), 40GB (unformatted), 30 GB (Ubuntu 9.10) HDD. Blog: http://youthofeternity.wordpress.com

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    Re: Trouble installing Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by jesusfreak107 View Post
    I do not know how to make a floppy drive tell the computer boot off of a USB or CD device, I have never used a floppy before. I also do not know how to do a network boot. I am mainly looking for a way to tell GRUB to boot off an iso file.
    The link I provided will walk you through doing a network install. I did not know how to do it my first time either but it was easy to follow and worked.

    For the floppy approach, no the floppy would not boot the USB. Something like floppix will boot linux off a floppy. If you are lucky it may allow you to connect your flash card once booted, and allow you to wipe your hard drive and put the contents of the mini.iso on the hard drive. Then reboot from the hard drive and the installer should launch.

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    Re: Trouble installing Ubuntu

    is there a bootable linux system that actually fits on a floppy? if so, I could do that. However, I will need a link to it, and some comprehensive directions, I am not that fluent with a command line, yet, I am still learning (thus the need for directions)
    Dell Dimension 3000. 1.7GHz, 1GB RAM, 40GB (Windows XP, Windows 7 RC), 40GB (unformatted), 30 GB (Ubuntu 9.10) HDD. Blog: http://youthofeternity.wordpress.com

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    Question Re: Trouble installing Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by picopir8 View Post
    Most computer also support network boot. If so do the following:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot

    That page also has a link to the mini.iso. That can be extracted and the files copies to your flash drive and booted off that if possible. Otherwise if you can boot off a floppy linux that allows you to access the flash drive, perhaps you can then copy the files to your hard drive to bood them (they are loaded to ram so it is okay if they are on the same drive you want to install linux to).

    Otherwise, just remove the hard drive and connect it to another computer, and put the contents of the mini.iso on it.
    Mine does not support network boot, and even if it did, it is wireless, so it would most likely not work.

    Otherwise if you can boot off a floppy linux that allows you to access the flash drive, perhaps you can then copy the files to your hard drive to boot them
    How would I make such a floppy? and what files? Would I need to extract the contents of the .iso onto my flash drive, or would the plain iso work?

    Otherwise, just remove the hard drive and connect it to another computer, and put the contents of the mini.iso on it.
    No can do. It is a laptop, and I cannot get the case off, I have tried. Plus, I would have to buy an adapter, and i do not have much money right now, or I would just have bought a new laptop, instead of fixing up an old one in the garage.

    Any other thoughts, people?
    Answers? (besides "42")
    Dell Dimension 3000. 1.7GHz, 1GB RAM, 40GB (Windows XP, Windows 7 RC), 40GB (unformatted), 30 GB (Ubuntu 9.10) HDD. Blog: http://youthofeternity.wordpress.com

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    Re: Trouble installing Ubuntu

    no, I want a full install of Ubuntu, or some variant. Thanks anyway, though.
    Dell Dimension 3000. 1.7GHz, 1GB RAM, 40GB (Windows XP, Windows 7 RC), 40GB (unformatted), 30 GB (Ubuntu 9.10) HDD. Blog: http://youthofeternity.wordpress.com

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