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    flash / quicktime/ websites rendering

    This post is not a request for help, merely an observation for folks new to Linux/Ubuntu/UbuntuCE.

    This first post is about "flash" video only, subsequent comments in the thread will address Qicktime

    To keep things simple, this author is involved with working with various kinds of websites within which the author views and/or works within "video".

    An example being that of a video of a training session for a new hire.

    The "stock" UCE does, indeed, show flash videos for most sites given that Privoxy does not find flagged terms, etc.

    In other words, it will display YouTube, advertising, etc. flash.

    Concerning this post:

    The Ubuntu restriced extras are enabled by default and that is usually about all one can do, in terms of viewing video.

    The problem arises when one is dealing with a website which is especially chary of allowing anyone to download the video; mainly because of the cutthroat approach to DRM when big money is involved.

    In most of the cases for a "problem" website, it will display "part of" the video and not "the rest" of the video.

    In most cases there is coding which produces the appearance of what might be termed a "mask" which covers part of the video.

    The amount of the mask is usually partial, covering one side or the bottom, depending upon whether the view is "standard" or "full screen".

    Since the author is not privy to the why, but can only speculate, one would assume that the "mask" is there to obfuscate the various flash apps on the website to fool downloader apps as to what is the real video and also to place a blocker on the video if it detects a download.

    As stated previously, UCE provides all of the Ubuntu Restricted Extras and that is about all that can be provided given the particular release of the OS.

    Since Flash is updated on almost a daily basis, if the upstream codecs, etc. have not "been adapted" to the latest, greates, enabling DRM flash, then there is not much that the developers of UCE or stock Ubuntu can do to rectify the situation.

    This author has viewed the sites using Gnash and the other open source viewers and all have the same result.

    So, this is not the "fault" of UCE, it is just the situation when one is working with DRM/closed source/proprietary stuff.

    Adobe has basically said that they will not "support" Flash as a crossplatform thing.

    The following link is provided for those new to Linux and not the "old hands".

    But, basically one is told to use Google Chrome OS.

    http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/74541.html

    Just using the stock, provided, Chromium Browser in UCE will not fix the situation.

    So, this author will continue to fiddle with the situation and if any developer wishes to address it, please feel free to so do.

    prism01
    Last edited by prism01; November 20th, 2012 at 04:46 AM.

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    Re: flash / websites redering

    For just about all situations that the "normal intended user" of UbuntuCE the stock install of Chromium will do the job.

    The situation that can occur is with that of possibly a student being enrolled in an online class that uses said animations/videos.

    The situation with viewing various "animations" or videos on the net is that of competing proprietary formats.

    There are several things that produce the moving images, such as:

    "flash"
    "java"
    "QuickTime"
    "Windows media".

    And, depending upon the setup of the browser and the "viewer" some things will "open" from within the browser itself and some open in an external viewer.

    To the above end, one can install all of the viewers/players or add them as necessary.

    Given that Privoxy, in and of itself, does not block the playing of the video/animation or even prevent the installation of the apps, this page for Chromioum browser provides all of the links for installation of the apps/plugins.

    The particular link is for "flash" but one can see the appropriate links in the bar to the left.

    Again, one or both of the following situations may hold:

    a) Privoxy may not allow installation of the plugins
    b) Privoxy may allow the installation but not the viewing.

    http://support.google.com/chrome/bin...8462&ctx=topic

    prism01

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    Re: flash / websites redering

    Hi
    Well, after a day or so to let this be viewed by people, the author thinks that probably "enough has been said" to get people who want to activate more video stuff pointed in the right direction.

    It is the considered opinion of the author that the developers have done a great job and produced exactly what at least a significant portion of Christians who might use UbuCE want.

    And for folks of a different approach, possibly these small thoughts can point them in the right direction to changing what they want to change but still keeping UbuCE.

    A lot of people on the web have little or no idea of the "mechanics" behind what produces the flashy/jumpy/thingys that are on web pages, and this will possibly provide a little insight so that they can make a somewhat informed choice.

    Again, hats off to the developers who have done a fine job on a distro that is needed if Linux is to attract "Christians" who just do not want "all that stuff'....

    And, curiously, for different reasons, that is precisely what the "hardcore" "command line people" in Linux do not want either.

    They do not want the flash popping on sites, they do not want advertisings sliding across the screen and since they produce the code that Linux is, they usually, from what I have observed, could care less for "most" of "popular culture".

    Rather like most Christians.

    But, again, for different reasons.

    And, again, the comment by "certain" people in the "Linux community" of ...why do "they" need a seperate distro?

    AHEM....excuse me.....those people tweak their distro so much that it is usually a custom distro that could be pressed on a cd ...in fact a lot of them do just that...

    And the Bible stuff is well integrated into the distro....

    Kind of like the KDE dedicated distros.

    Yes, it is just Debian, or Ubu with KDE on it....but a dedicated distro just....has a certain feel...

    One knows it when one sees it.

    Great job devs!

    prosm01

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