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    The best linux web-design application

    Now, I'm a graphic designer who eventually wants
    to get into doing some basic web-design as well
    (self promotion and non-profit work). I need your
    opinion about which web-editor you think is the
    best for Linux... Seamonkey, Bluefish or some other
    editor? Should WYSIWYG capabilities be considered
    a must when choosing a package to learn from
    scratch? And finally; how essential is WYSIWYG when
    it comes to creating a good workflow from a designers
    point of view?

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    Re: The best linux web-design application

    Hi
    I use seamonkey
    but Kompozer also seems to be popular http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/ it has a built-in site manager.
    wysiwig makes learning basics of webdesign easy and many front-end web designers stick with it. it really depends on which field of web design you are interested in, if you r a designer i'm guessing you might be more interested in developing the general "look and feel" of a website? if that is the case, wysiwig editors should do the trick for you, but it's always a good idea to check out the code (html, css, xml, etc) that goes on in the background (but not a necessity or a prerequisite for website designers).
    gimp's script-fu slice and imageMap filter/plugin adds some imageready/fireworks slicing and hotspot capabilities to a workflow. i find the slice feature to be particularly useful as it also creates a table for the images it slices in html, which you can then easily embed into a web page.
    either way starting in wysiwig editors and tools is a good place to start (and even remain) but you should definitely consider extending your knowledge beyond that if you don't want to have your software make your design decisions for you in the long run.

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    Re: The best linux web-design application

    Thank you for a thoughtful response!

    You write:

    “if you r a designer i'm guessing you might
    be more interested in developing the general "look
    and feel" of a website?”
    That's right, I'm not at all opposed to learning a bit of
    html, but my main concern is to find a way to visualise
    my ideas, not going too deep into the code that's required.

    gimp's script-fu slice and imageMap filter/plugin
    adds some imageready/fireworks slicing and hotspot
    capabilities to a workflow. i find the slice feature to be
    particularly useful as it also creates a table for the
    images it slices in html, which you can then easily embed
    into a web page.
    Interesting! Thanks for the tip!
    I'm new to Ubuntu and open-source software in general. I'm
    used to working with adobe software (although not for web-design),
    but Gimp seems very solid, when you take into consideration
    that it's completely free. It seems as if Inkscape
    (and possibly Scribus, but I haven't really used it much)
    is more immature at the present moment, but given time,
    they too can become very good. (One example: It seems
    as if Inkscape has a little trouble working with high-res images...)

    I've tried Kompozer, wasn't too impressed at first sight...
    I'll definitively try out Seamonkey. (And hey; I like the mozilla guys!)

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    Re: The best linux web-design application

    Try out bluefish. That's what I use both for HTML and PHP development.

    sudo apt-get install bluefish

    And about the WYSIWYG, I think it is a must not when starting to learn from scratch. But if total control is not what you're looking for, then WYSIWYG is for you. Good luck.
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    A Dreamweaver-killer for Linux?

    I've installed and have briefly tried out both Bluefish
    and Seamonkey. I found Bluefish quite intuitive and
    easy to use for a non-WYSWYG editor. Seamonkey
    was also quite easy to use for a novice, but is it perhaps
    a bit too weak? I see that Amaya
    (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/BinDist.html)
    has an Ubuntu distribution available, do anyone know
    why Amaya doesn't show up in the Ubuntu Software Senter?
    (Perhaps it isn't used primarily for web design?)

    I've also had a little look around at some of the
    web-design packages you can get for Windows...
    It seems as if there is a lack of an open-source
    program for Linux that is an obvious competitor
    with the stuff you can get for Windows. I mean,
    Gimp is already an excellent alternative to Photoshop;
    Inkscape and Scribus is beginning to give Illustrator
    and Indesign some serious competition. But at the
    moment I don't think there are any program that
    comes close to being a Dreamweaver-killer. (Or Html-kit killer).
    No matter what one thinks of Dreamweaver,
    I think an open-source alternative is needed. Like it or not,
    it is a package that many, many designers use.

    From a designers point of view, I think one should
    ideally be able to do as much design as possible with
    as little manual coding as possible. I mean, if I was
    going to design a logo, I would use Illustrator/Inkscape,
    not C++. On the other hand I freely admit that I'm
    inexperienced when it comes to web-design.
    (I used Dreamweaver for a couple of weeks waaaay back
    in the Macromedia days.) When it comes to WYSWYG,
    I see from reading posts on the topic that many claims
    that it produces “dirty” code... xtremethegreat1 writes:

    And about the WYSIWYG, I think it is a must not when starting to learn from scratch. But if total control is not what you're looking for, then WYSIWYG is for you. Good luck.
    Design is indeed all about control, so I wonder
    whether there is something in the code that
    WYSIWYG-programs makes, that has negative
    consequences for those who access your site?
    Does “dirty” code cause any real problems, and what
    does “total control” mean in the context of web-design?
    Finally: Is it theoretically possible to create a piece
    of open-source software which is just as easy to
    use as Dreamweaver, (or even notorious web-generators
    such as Netobjects Fusion and Web-builder)
    but that also produces clean and nice code?

    Thanks for your contribution!

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    Re: A Dreamweaver-killer for Linux?

    WYSIWYG programs typically do not create legible stylesheets, or embed the styles inline with the html which then defeats the purpose of browser caching.

    You need to appreciate that creating a HTML & CSS page is not about pixel control.

    I suggest you start reading http://alistapart.com to become familiar with better HTML & CSS creation techniques.

    I too started out creating websites with dreamweaver when it was version 4.

    I stopped using it when I realised it was creating more work for me later on (no to mention the frequent loss of work due to the program misbehaving).

    I now use gedit with the following plugins
    • Word Completion,
    • gMate Plugin Set
    • Rabbit CVS Git Plugin
    • External Tools
    • Find in Open Documents


    You might also like Aptana, which is a very nice package (even if it is based on Eclipse), there's also a portable version for both windows and linux.

    Although use gimp and inkscape, I've come to the conclusion that less is more when it comes to graphics and webpages.
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    Re: A Dreamweaver-killer for Linux?

    airtonix gives some good advice. I use gedit as well.

    Honestly, if you don't want to learn HTML/CSS, unless it's a really simple project, it'll probably be best to draw up your designs and team up with someone who knows it.

    If you do want to learn to code, I would say a WYSIWYG editor is a must not as well. http://alistapart.com and http://w3schools.com are great resources.
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    Re: The best linux web-design application

    I use Sublime Text 2. Its python based and compatible with every major OS.

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    Re: The best linux web-design application

    Quote Originally Posted by callen41 View Post
    I use Sublime Text 2. Its python based and compatible with every major OS.
    Apparently it's C++ with bits of Python Ditto on Sublime Text 2.
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    Re: The best linux web-design application

    Link .... here for Users that want to try it ..... the executable is in the download for 32 bit

    seems good so far .... http://www.sublimetext.com/2

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