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And a good thing it is.

I've got fifty, but I can't use pop anymore. somehow

Yeah, it is.

The idea is that ubuntu is gnome-oriented / gnome-only
Work is underway to launch a 'sister-distro' which is basicly the same, but does the same thing for KDE, working name kubuntu, or so I believe....

Considering how 'rough' warty is compared to hoary, hell yeah!
For safety reasons I'm on warty right now, but I want to go back all the time.

Distrowatch.cz:
6 month average: 860 h/p/d
3 month average: 1143 h/p/d
1 month average: 1584 h/p/d

For those who follow it, our one month average hits per day on the distrowatch 'ubuntu-page'...

Amen. Devs are doing a good job.
Warty is rough around the edges. Hoary should be much much much more polished.

I agree with the comission. In my opinion MS should not be allowed to marketeer its way out of a sanction, which is obviously what they are trying to do.

I'm more concerned with the licence on the...

This made me laugh really hard

Running Windows virusses in wine:
http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222&from=rss

male, 20 in june.

In the meantime, I had a rough path getting to hoary
Somehow the dist-upgrade froze, I had to hard-reboot, corrupted my filesystem, broke dpkg and my ppp internet module at the same time.

So I...

Is XFCE actually noticably faster than gnome/kde?

I reverted my backports, and went to hoary.

There was a major problem there.
After I removed my backports, firefox wouldn't load.
I thought, fine. I'll upgrade to hoary anyhow.

However, on...

Hm, A lot of people don't like to install things outside of synaptic. :-)

Errors were encountered while processing:
gimp
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
root@system:~ # apt-get install gimp
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency...

Preparing to replace xchat-common 2.4.1-0.1ubuntu1-warty+backportedfrom-ubuntu-hoary1 (using .../xchat-common_2.0.8-2ubuntu1_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement xchat-common ...
Errors were...

root@system:/home/hidde # apt-show-versions -b | grep warty-backports | cut -d ' ' -f 1 | awk -F/ '{print $1;}' |grep -v grepmap | xargs --replace="{}" echo {}/warty | xargs sudo apt-get install -y...

root@system:~ # apt-show-versions -b | grep warty-backports | cut -d ' ' -f 1 | awk -F/ '{print $1;}' |grep -v grepmap | xargs --replace="{}" echo {}/warty | xargs sudo apt-get install -s
Reading...

Big effort, porting libs probably. That's a big chunk of code to chew.

I've just asked if we'll see OpenOffice.org 2 in Hoary, and as it stands right now, OpenOfiice might not get in.

Now, I know there are people here who consider OO.org such an important package...

Hm. Walk me through and I'll test it for you. :-)

Wait for it to be in hoary...

It is possible to 'pin' packages in synaptic, so they won't be upgraded. For now, that should do.

Wouldn't be hard to do even manually.
The problem is, do you force the backports to hoary versionsand then dist-upgrade
or
do you force backports back to warty versions then dist-upgrade

could...

Have dates been set for Hoary?
Preview / Feature Freeze etc?