Re: Discussion - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs
What do Bashing-om, Frogs Hair, ibjsb4, MG&TL, nothingspecial, slickymaster and tgalati4 all have in common?
The obvious answer is that all of these gentlemen are well known in the Forums for their tireless contributions assisting users with their questions. What may not be quite as well known is that each of them has a link to NewDocs in their signature. That they consider NewDocs worthwhile is very encouraging.
You are very welcome to join them if you wish to contribute to the promotion of the Wiki by having a link in your signature. No matter who you are, everybody is welcome with thanks. Just a small link will be appreciated.
Even if you don't wish to add a link, I suggest that you check out NewDocs to see the extent of available Documentation.
On 1/3/13 there were 695 pages in NewDocs. Today on 2/4/13 there is 975 pages following the recent addition of 173 pages over the last few days. At this stage this is considered to be near to a final number, with possible adjustments to come.
NewDocs remains vastly superior to TitleIndex inasmuch as it loads in a fraction of the time and has a far easier navigating ability. Under normal circumstances, I consider NewDocs will return more than 95 % of searched pages. In any case, if any are missed, they can easily be included in the list.
To further improve NewDocs, I ask that readers of this thread get involved and tell us what you like and don't like about the Wiki. Any questions would also be welcome. Finally, I would like to thank tgalati4 in particular for his support.
If you haven't tried NewDocs yet, bookmark it from one of the links on this post.
Cheers - :P
BlinkinCat
Re: Discussion - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs
NewDocs pages now total 1,003 with the addition of 28 in the month of April.
It would appear that I will continue to find new pages to add in the months ahead, at least until some of the existing pages become obsolete at which time I will begin to remove them.
There are now 9 of us with NewDocs links in our signatures, the latest being QIII who's signature I stumbled across about 3 weeks ago. I am indebted to the 8 gentlemen helping for their assistance. In case you have forgotten who the other 7 are, they are listed in #41.
This month I moved the Alterations To NewDocs Link to top position on the NewDocs Face-Page.
I trust those of you who have Bookmarked NewDocs, are finding value in it.
If you haven't tried NewDocs yet, Bookmark it from here -NewDocs
Cheers - :p
BlinkinCat
Re: Discussion - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs
A revamping of the Alterations To NewDocs Page.
As a means of uncluttering and improving the Alterations Page, I intend to take measures to simplify the page but
to also use it for general purposes. This method would allow the the announcement of the total monthly updates in
the Discussion Wiki, thus allowing more room in the Alterations Page. Documentation Pages would be added in
small lots during the month. In the event that this method is proven to be unwieldy or untidy, further thought can
be given to a solution. To this end, set out below is the Alterations Page as it is today, in case the data is
resurrected.
Alterations To NewDocs :
Discussion of this Wiki including updates and any questions can be found here.
Although it is estimated that more than 95 percent of your page searches will be recovered on NewDocs, there
may be times when you will need to rely on TitleIndex to find your target page.
If you come across a page in the Community Documentation that you think should be included in NewDocs, send a
P.M. to BlinkinCat in the Ubuntu Forums including a link to the page or edit the Wiki yourself.
If you find a page with obsolete information please tag it using one or more appropriate tags.
If you take either of the above two actions, please advise BlinkinCat via the above link so that the situation can be
monitored.
1. 15/02/13 Created New AA Alterations To NewDocs Listing for the Face-Page.
2. 01/03/13 Added 15 new page entries to NewDocs list (2 doubled up) and removed 1 page.
3. 02/03/13 Added General Purpose Links (including 2 podcasts) to Links under "L" Page.
4. 11/03/13 Removed original list numbering Sytems and added eleven pages.
5. 17/03/13 Added a further 98 pages to the list.
6. 02/04/13 Added a further 173 pages to the list.
7. 01/05/13 Added a further 28 pages to the list.
8. 01/05/13 Changed AAA Alterations To NewDocs Listing for Face-Page.
9. 15/05/13 Page added by Slickymaster.
10. 15/05/13 Redesigned Face-Page.
15/05/13 There are now 1,004 pages listed in NewDocs - plus 64 Links in the Links listing.
Remember : This page is as it is now - this will change considerably with the much needed revamp. I wished to make this announcement public in case anybody wished to add any comments or suggestions regarding the page.
Cheers - :)
BlinkinCat
Re: Discussion - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs
Brilliant! This is a wonderful resource for someone like me who is constantly wondering, "how do I?" I'm another one who has a ton of these pages bookmarked. This wiki makes it so much easier. And I have to add that the link back to the top of the page is especially appreciated. :)
A lot of hard work went into this BlinkinCat. I'll be glad to add the link to my signature as well.
Re: Discussion - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs
Because of BlinkinCat's efforts, the active pages are getting more views and are getting updated faster with useful tags.
Re: Discussion - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs
@Buntu Bunny : Thank you very much for your kind words. Your offer to have the NewDocs link in your signature is particularly appreciated. As for the return to top of page I have to admit I made quite a mistake returning it to the Face-Page rather than the top of page. (fixed now) It is far simpler if you want to return to the Face-Page even if low down on a page by simply using the Go back one page Tab.
@tgalati4 : Much appreciation for your continued support and words of wisdom. I have been keeping an eye open on the NewDocs page hits and seem to detect a gradual increase in support.
The revamping of the Face-Page I think looks better and moving the "Discussion of this Wiki" out in the open is where it should be. I will be removing the clutter within the Alterations to NewDocs page over the next few days and replacing it with (hopefully) better content.
Thanks again to you both (You have made my day)
Cheers - :)
BlinkinCat
Re: Discussion - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs
BlinkinCat it was a lot of work so the credit is well deserved.
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Originally Posted by
BlinkinCat
Your offer to have the NewDocs link in your signature is particularly appreciated.t
I figure that for someone like me, with only nominal 'Buntu knowledge, this is probably the only way I can do at least one small thing for the community that has helped me so much.
(Now we just need some alternative "for dummies" versions of some of those more technical articles.)
;)
Re: Discussion - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs
The Bunny brings up a good point. Some of the articles are quite technical and others are simpler. Some are strickly text/console instructions, others have pictures for point-and-click. We don't have tags for "Needs simplification" or "Needs further explanation of steps". Learning linux is alot like learning advanced math. You need to learn some fundamentals before you can understand the more advanced topics. Diving into a tutorial about compiling a kernel will get you a result, but you may not understand what to do when something goes wrong.
College math courses handle this issue by having Prerequisites--classes you must take before you can take this class. Perhaps pages that are tagged "Too technical" can be enhanced by having a Prequisites paragraph. Having a detailed list of concepts (and links) that should be mastered before attempting the actions specified in the "Too technical" page.
Re: Discussion - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs
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Originally Posted by
tgalati4
Perhaps pages that are tagged "Too technical" can be enhanced by have a Prequisites paragraph. Having a detailed list of concepts (and links) that should be mastered before attempting the actions specified in the "Too technical" page.
Actually, that would be very helpful, especially for those of us who want to learn more. Alternatively, maybe even a skill level assigned to a page.
Now, I'd probably head for cover if I though I had to compile anything, but something like IpstablesHowTo seems important to have some help with. I'm sure it is very well written, but in reading, it I'm not even sure what questions to ask to get help.
Re: Discussion - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs
In the last few days BlinkinCat has been busy with a few alterations in NewDocs, namely redesigning its Face-Page, which now has a direct link to the Links page.
IMHO, this redesign of the Face-Page not only bring us a way more clean page but also the fact that the descriptions of each link at the top of the page are now more concise, it provides the users with a more expeditious navigation over the NewDocs extra contents.
Personally I've included a few more additions to the Links page, on a total of 5 entries, and an additional entree to the U page and I'm planning on weeding through the present links, looking out for any outdated links but keeping in mind that even tough they might be rather old, they could be perfectly relevant today.
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Originally Posted by
tgalati4
The Bunny brings up a good point. Some of the articles are quite technical and others are simpler. Some are strickly text/console instructions, others have pictures for point-and-click. We don't have tags for "Needs simplification" or "Needs further explanation of steps". Learning linux is alot like learning advanced math. You need to learn some fundamentals before you can understand the more advanced topics. Diving into a tutorial about compiling a kernel will get you a result, but you may not understand what to do when something goes wrong.
College math courses handle this issue by having Prerequisites--classes you must take before you can take this class. Perhaps pages that are tagged "Too technical" can be enhanced by have a Prequisites paragraph. Having a detailed list of concepts (and links) that should be mastered before attempting the actions specified in the "Too technical" page.
A solid +1 on tgalati4 post.
As I see it, BlinkinCat's inicial idea was to provide a useful tool for all Ubuntu user's, but specially for those like Buntu Bunny, who are constantly wondering, "how do I?"
I think it's up to us now, as a community, to help BlinkinCat making the growth of this project, either in size or qualitatively, a reality.