Oh, both delete and add panel still work as expected in a metacity session.
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Oh, both delete and add panel still work as expected in a metacity session.
This won't make much sense right now so bear with me through a couple of edits :)
The configurability of the "panels" is quite dependent on what session and window manager you're running.
You can run this command to see what session you're running:
Or you can install 'wmctrl' and then run this command:Code:echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
For instance I'm currently running a flashback/metacity session so I get this output:Code:wmctrl -m
I'll follow up with more info later :DCode:lance@lance-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install wmctrl
[sudo] password for lance:
Reading package lists... Done
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The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
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linux-image-3.12.0-1-generic linux-image-3.12.0-2-generic
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linux-image-extra-3.12.0-2-generic linux-image-extra-3.12.0-3-generic
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
wmctrl
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lance@lance-desktop:~$ echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
gnome-fallback
lance@lance-desktop:~$ wmctrl -m
Name: Metacity
Class: N/A
PID: N/A
Window manager's "showing the desktop" mode: N/A
More info #1:
As you seemed to imply nothing works in a flashback/compiz session right now as far as editing 'gnome-panel', but I've never focused on Compiz because I find it too "heavy" for most of my hardware anyway. OTOH I've found Metacity to run just as "light" as both Xfwm and Openbox in real-time with as little as an 1100Mhz CPU and 500MB of RAM, although 1GB of RAM is preferable for installation.
Anyway, these are the outputs of those two commands in a Trusty flashback/compiz session:
Code:lance@lance-desktop:~$ echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
gnome-fallback-compiz
lance@lance-desktop:~$ wmctrl -m
Name: Compiz
Class: N/A
PID: N/A
Window manager's "showing the desktop" mode: OFF
Thinking out loud again :redface:
Why does the small team of Debian/Edubuntu devs interested in the flashback session need to even support a flashback/compiz session? Only Metacity would be needed to support LTSP installs :)
Something odd and interesting, after trying a flashback/compiz session logging out and logging back into a metacity session seems to still display a compiz session for a minute and a half (maybe almost two minutes), so maybe the aforementioned bug has something to do with determining which session should be initiated :confused:
Ok, not sure where all this is going, but here's my story. I rsync'd my saucy partition (has only unity with no xfce/ldx/gnome wizzbangery) into a new partition... then did an insitu upgrade of this new partition to trusty... I then saw a post explaining how to bring in the 'right' gnome so I did a sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback gdm... at the GDM login I now have 5 options, Ubuntu, Gnome with Compiz, Gnome with Metacity, Gnome and Default Session. Delete reference to that last option for the remainder of this post.
So, I tried each method, took a screenie and applied the script mentioned above. Here are the results:
Unity
http://i44.tinypic.com/28l3u2u.jpgCode:wayne@trusty-gnome:~$ echo $DESKTOP_SESSION && echo "-------------------" && wmctrl -m
ubuntu
-------------------
Name: Compiz
Class: N/A
PID: N/A
Window manager's "showing the desktop" mode: OFF
wayne@trusty-gnome:~$
Gnome (Compiz) - top panel totally unresponsive
http://i43.tinypic.com/2uh4cif.jpgCode:wayne@trusty-gnome:~$ echo $DESKTOP_SESSION && echo "-------------------" && wmctrl -m
gnome-fallback-compiz
-------------------
Name: Compiz
Class: N/A
PID: N/A
Window manager's "showing the desktop" mode: OFF
wayne@trusty-gnome:~$
Gnome (Metacity) - top panel totally unresponsive
http://i41.tinypic.com/11ch2mr.jpgCode:wayne@trusty-gnome:~$ echo $DESKTOP_SESSION && echo "-------------------" && wmctrl -m
gnome-fallback
-------------------
Name: Metacity
Class: N/A
PID: N/A
Window manager's "showing the desktop" mode: N/A
wayne@trusty-gnome:~$
Gnome - everything pretty much works
http://i42.tinypic.com/2ry6p6v.jpgCode:wayne@trusty-gnome:~$ echo $DESKTOP_SESSION && echo "-------------------" && wmctrl -m
gnome
-------------------
Name: GNOME Shell
Class: N/A
PID: N/A
Window manager's "showing the desktop" mode: N/A
wayne@trusty-gnome:~$
I really don't want to hijack this thread and would prefer you pursue your original thoughts. Just letting folks know that atm noobs like me are probably going to have problems with gnome-session-flashback installs.
Do you have installed indicator-applet-appmenu? If so uninstall it and try again compiz and/or metacity sessions.
I know that at least on x64 indicator-applet-appmenu is broken causing all other applets to not show. If you can open system monitor, you can try kill that process to see if applets shows on top panel.
indicator-applet-appmenu was NOT installed. After I installed it there was no change to not being able to access the top panel in gnome-compiz, however in gnome-metacity I could now access the top panel... briefly. I managed to install the clock app before indicator-applet-appmenu crashed.