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Valve Corporation's Steam is coming to Linux in 2012
I just read a Phoronix article in which Gabe Newell confirmed that Valve Corporation's Steam client is coming to Linux by the end of 2012 or earlier. If he does make good on his word, then this will be simply awesome news. I hope that they target Ubuntu as one of their primary goals for bringing Steam to Linux.
Right now, I purchased CrossOver for Linux 64 bit 11.2.0. I have the Valve Corporation Steam client for Windows installed and I have Sid Meier's Civilization V with a couple of DLCs that I purchased. I have not played this game yet and I am holding off because I have to study for my Graduate Record Examination.
If this does become reality, then it will be most definitely one of the big highlights of this year. I know that there are countless numbers of Ubuntu Forums users that dual-boot into Microsoft Windows and they use Steam to play Windows PC games. This would mean that they could play their Steam games in Ubuntu and perhaps they can get rid of Windows altogether for certain folks.
Valve has hired a lot of impressive Linux talent recently and they are building up their Linux team with additional key hires. If they can manage to pull this off with the fewest bugs and problems, then it will mean that millions of Linux customers will do business with them in the future. There are so many games that I want to purchase and play in Ubuntu using the Steam client.
Things just keep getting better for the Linux community every year.
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Just out of curiosity, if you own a disc copy of a game, can you enter the disc "code" to play it if it is available on steam? As in, I own Civ 4, and it's on steam, would I be able to enter the product key to play it on steam?
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cbennett926
Just out of curiosity, if you own a disc copy of a game, can you enter the disc "code" to play it if it is available on steam? As in, I own Civ 4, and it's on steam, would I be able to enter the product key to play it on steam?
If you had WINE/POL yes.
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By the end of 2012 or earlier? Now we have a date. If it doesn't happen by the end of this year, we can finally put Phoronix's lies to rest, once and for all.
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cbennett926
Just out of curiosity, if you own a disc copy of a game, can you enter the disc "code" to play it if it is available on steam? As in, I own Civ 4, and it's on steam, would I be able to enter the product key to play it on steam?
Yes. When Half-Life 2 came out, I bought it on disc. A while later, I threw the disc away. I was able to reinstall it with Steam.
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Valve won't bring Steam to Linux because there's no marklet for it.
Make linux market for games worty: quit Steam (:lolflag:) at all and support those who are building the market.
http://www.desura.com/
http://www.gameolith.com/
The market follow people's wallet... not their mouth :mad:
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Steam is coming to Linux, it's not a rumor and not a "phoronix lie". I do not think Valve ever made a big announcment but they have officially confirmed that it's in the works several times: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/v...-linux-support
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alexan
Valve won't bring Steam to Linux because there's no marklet for it.
Make linux market for games worty: quit Steam (:lolflag:) at all and support those who are
building the market.
http://www.desura.com/
http://www.gameolith.com/
The market follow people's wallet... not their mouth :mad:
Steam is confirmed with source/left 4 dead 2 already working.
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I'll believe it when I see it. There's not much money in Linux gaming, but a few big companies throwing their weight in could help change that once gamers start crossing over. I know at least a few people who would switch to Ubuntu if it were more games friendly.
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xedi
Wow. That's the first time I've seen anything at all that looks trustworthy. I guess you can trust Valve's own managing director when he said they are supporting Linux.
Maybe soon, we'll be able to put this to rest with Duke Nukem Forever and Gimp 2.8.
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forrestcupp
Wow. That's the first time I've seen anything at all that looks trustworthy. I guess you can trust Valve's own managing director when he said they are supporting Linux.
Maybe soon, we'll be able to put this to rest with Duke Nukem Forever and Gimp 2.8.
Hopefully it'll be better than Duke Nukem Forever haha
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What I wounder is if this will really means that the games that already are on Steam will also work on Linux (which everyone seems to think) or if it is just a game distribution system for games designed specifically for Linux. Personally, the latter seems more probable, but I do hope they port some of the more significant engines (and subsequently, games) to Linux in the process, like HL2.
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My guess is that with STEAM will come DX. This will make it pretty simple to port to Linux. If not, they will have to re-write games for OpenGL... which might mean companies would have to put a lot of effort into making a game run on Linux. At least I think that's how it works :)
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Nixarter
My guess is that with STEAM will come DX. This will make it pretty simple to port to Linux.
To put it simply: This will never happen. DirectX is never coming to Linux. What could happen, within the next three decades, is that a group of hackers would put together a similar toolkit, from tools that are readily available already.
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Portal all the way!
By the way, this was announced awhile ago...but I still love hearing the words "Steam for Linux!"
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forrestcupp
Wow. That's the first time I've seen anything at all that looks trustworthy. I guess you can trust Valve's own managing director when he said they are supporting Linux.
I remain as sceptical as you.
Maybe Desura's success has proven that it's not a total waste of time, although having a client and having games that work on Linux are very different things. If there's a steam client for Linux, but it only has EA webgames... what's the point?
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Kimm
What I wounder is if this will really means that the games that already are on Steam will also work on Linux (which everyone seems to think) or if it is just a game distribution system for games designed specifically for Linux. Personally, the latter seems more probable, but I do hope they port some of the more significant engines (and subsequently, games) to Linux in the process, like HL2.
The story is that they are porting the Source engine to Linux, too. But even that won't make all the games magically work. It will just make it much easier to port the games to Linux. I forget which games it is that they are supposedly already working on porting.
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Kimm
What I wounder is if this will really means that the games that already are on Steam will also work on Linux (which everyone seems to think) or if it is just a game distribution system for games designed specifically for Linux. Personally, the latter seems more probable, but I do hope they port some of the more significant engines (and subsequently, games) to Linux in the process, like HL2.
Yes and no. You are correct that Steam is only a game distribution platform, however, what is exciting is that Valve is also porting their source engine, so Valve games will come also to Linux eventually.
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As the owner of a Linux Gaming website www.gamingonlinux.com I often pulled Phoronix up on their over hyping of this story, that is until i shot Gabe (owner of Valve) an email to his personal email myself to ask if 1 - its coming to linux and 2 - if it would be out before the end of the year.
To my shock Gabe actually replied and said yes to both.
Phoronix also showed a photo of Left for Dead 2 running natively on Linux so that looks to be at least one Source Engine game coming to Linux, no doubt the new Counter Strike: GO will support us too.
The thing with Desura is while it's a good idea the Desura client is honestly rubbish as it is now, very buggy and no official support other than the Desurium open source client which is development is rather slow on (i think part due to lack of official support from Desura). One of the best things about Steam is the community features around it which make it so big - Desura has none of this.
As for Gameolith while again i support them they have switched from Linux only to multi platform, have no client to keep up to date and are slow to update games - not to mention a tiny library.
I am keeping my eye on but even with Gabe emailing me, i still remain skeptical :/
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ELD
I am keeping my eye on but even with Gabe emailing me, i still remain skeptical :/
I'm a lot less skeptical now than I was.
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forrestcupp
I'm a lot less skeptical now than I was.
I am an intermediate skeptical druid, third class.
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Btw, could mods add a "confirmed" label or something to the thread title? Thanks to Phoronix, nobody would believe/notice this.
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ELD
Phoronix also showed a photo of Left for Dead 2 running natively on Linux so that looks to be at least one Source Engine game coming to Linux, no doubt the new Counter Strike: GO will support us too.
Did you ask if they were porting Portal 1 and 2? Because those are the only 2 games that matter to me at the moment.
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Valve announces Ubuntu port of Steam, Source engine, and Left 4 Dead 2
The company is also looking at porting additional titles to the platform.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/0...left-4-dead-2/
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Valve Confirm ‘Steam’, ‘Left 4 Dead 2′ Coming to Ubuntu
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ffejrey
Straight from the horse's mouth. Now we don't have to wade through Phoronix's crap anymore. We can get real information from the Source (pun intended).
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It is about ******* time they officially announced this. If they can get L4D2 running, they should be able to get all their games running on the Source engine running. And now that they are supporting Linux in an official manner, there is a higher likely hood that their future engines and project will be supported under Linux/Ubuntu.
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Once one Source Engine game is ported others will follow and be quicker as well since the underlying technology will already be there so we should see other source engine games in a short time after.
Just FYI my website www.gamingonlinux.com is a place i did post confirmation on Steam For Linux coming multiple times, it's not just phoronix who is in the know ;)
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BrokenKingpin
It is about ******* time they officially announced this. If they can get L4D2 running, they should be able to get all their games running on the Source engine running. And now that they are supporting Linux in an official manner, there is a higher likely hood that their future engines and project will be supported under Linux/Ubuntu.
Well, they're still working on getting the frame rates up to par using OpenGL. So they're not quite there yet. Once they get to that point, it should be easy for them to port anything that uses the Source engine. After they get all the foundational stuff squared away, the Linux team's objective is to start porting other games, according to their blog.
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Glorious news indeed, Steam support would be one of the biggest advances in making Linux viable for home use.
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You have to think - they must be quite far along if they are officially announcing it and blogging it now, maybe a beta around the corner?
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finally, just wonder when it will be released
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Last word was to the end of 2012...
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This is possibly an exciting time for Linux. This is a good sign that PC software makers are becoming uncomfortable with how Microsoft seems to be shifting toward forsaking the desktop/laptop. Windows 8 does a lot for tablets and the touch screen, but in my opinion since trying it out in a VM, the disadvantages it brings to the desktop outweigh the advantages.
If that is the future that Microsoft is choosing to head toward, I can understand why PC software creators would start thinking toward supporting Linux, too.
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They must release it by this Christmas 2012 or earlier for Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit LTS. Valve knows that Canonical will release Ubuntu 12.10 on October 18th, 2012 so that will be the earliest release date for Steam for Ubuntu GNU/Linux. A lot of new computers will be sold and Ubuntu 12.10 32 and 64 bit will be installed on those new computers worldwide. I just hope that Valve knows what they are doing and they can guarantee compatibility for Ubuntu 12.10 regarding Steam.
This October 2012 will be an important one for me. I am probably going to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit, Microsoft Windows 8 Pro 64 bit, and Microsoft Office 2013 64 bit Professional Plus.
Then, we have the November presidential elections on November 6th, 2012.
Afterwards, Valve has one last shot to release Steam by Christmas 2012 at the very latest deadline to get Ubuntu users to buy games from them.
2012 will be a good year for me.
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I just hope that they don't do all the stupid DRM crap with the Linux one
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Nixarter
I just hope that they don't do all the stupid DRM crap with the Linux one
It's very unlikely they'll change their way of operating, especially for a relatively token share. Still, Steam is so damn convenient; I'd rather have content with DRM, than no content at all.
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Nixarter
I just hope that they don't do all the stupid DRM crap with the Linux one
I'm pretty sure that when Steam launches for Linux, they will immediately provide all of the source code for every game on Steam, and all of the games will be offered for free. Also, the CEO of Valve will drive over to your house and give you a very nice sandwich. Your choice, steak, ham or chicken.
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thatguruguy
I'm pretty sure that when Steam launches for Linux, they will immediately provide all of the source code for every game on Steam, and all of the games will be offered for free. Also, the CEO of Valve will drive over to your house and give you a very nice sandwich. Your choice, steak, ham or chicken.
Neck massage or no deal Gabe
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thatguruguy
I'm pretty sure that when Steam launches for Linux, they will immediately provide all of the source code for every game on Steam, and all of the games will be offered for free. Also, the CEO of Valve will drive over to your house and give you a very nice sandwich. Your choice, steak, ham or chicken.
Sarcastic much? ;)
They are currently working with intel devs on the open source drivers - so you may see pretty good support for steam with intels own graphics - which is great news if true since intels latest gen graphics aren't that bad.
Hope to see another blog post from them to keep us updated :D
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I hope Valve drops Vindictus for Steam if Vindictus can't be ported :V since it uses Source.
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So what percentage of games will be released for this? Thinking of building my first gaming rig soon but the idea of going back to windows doesn't appeal to me. Should i just keep gaming on my ps3/360 and wait and see for a few years?
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mamamia88
So what percentage of games will be released for this? Thinking of building my first gaming rig soon but the idea of going back to windows doesn't appeal to me. Should i just keep gaming on my ps3/360 and wait and see for a few years?
That's really up to the individual developers. Valve is only porting the distribution method (Steam) and a game (Left 4 Dead 2, probably other Source games).
Look at Steam for Mac, it's been around for a while but not EVERY game is available for Mac because the developer didn't make a Mac version.
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Merk42
That's really up to the individual developers. Valve is only porting the distribution method (Steam) and a game (Left 4 Dead 2, probably other Source games).
Look at Steam for Mac, it's been around for a while but not EVERY game is available for Mac because the developer didn't make a Mac version.
That's right. The only hope this gives us is for the games that run on the Source engine. There are a lot of games out there that don't use Source. As of right now, we have no hope at all for all of those, other than that Valve's move might inspire and motivate them.
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I'm going to go buy left 4 dead 2 immediately. I'm a huge tf2 fan so I hope that's next. :D :D :D
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You can add 6 months to a year(as any Left 4 Dead 2 on 360 fan can attest to) onto any date Gabe gives,this is called Valve Time.
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Use of Open GL would be the main criterion for a developer to consider porting a game.
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Ji Ruo
Use of Open GL would be the main criterion for a developer to consider porting a game.
The good thing about this is if you're using a game engine, like Source, the game developer doesn't have to worry about whether it uses DirectX or OpenGL. You just write one set of code using the Source API and let it handle what method it uses.
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I suspect the games available for Linux Steam will be something like 95% Unity 4, 4% Source and 1% everything else. I'd be VERY surprised to see any major publishers support it (ala Mac Steam); I'd imagine 0.1% of the 1% would be from major publishers other than Valve, and that's an optimistic guess.
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forrestcupp
The good thing about this is if you're using a game engine, like Source, the game developer doesn't have to worry about whether it uses DirectX or OpenGL. You just write one set of code using the Source API and let it handle what method it uses.
Both Portal and Portal 2 can use OpenGL even on Windows (but only if you completely remove DirectX, and force Portal/2 to use OpenGL by not letting it install DirectX, etc.)
Or try this command: -force-opengl
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Lucradia
Both Portal and Portal 2 can use OpenGL even on Windows (but only if you completely remove DirectX, and force Portal/2 to use OpenGL by not letting it install DirectX, etc.)
Or try this command: -force-opengl
After they finish porting Source, I'm sure things will have even better OpenGL support. They're still trying to get the OpenGL framerates tweaked to be on par with DirectX. I can't believe they're putting this much into it.
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forrestcupp
After they finish porting Source, I'm sure things will have even better OpenGL support. They're still trying to get the OpenGL framerates tweaked to be on par with DirectX. I can't believe they're putting this much into it.
Me neither! Great times...
I always knew this would happen. *cough*
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Lucradia
Just different, most of what I've seen of it is that it's essentially a smartphone interface. There will be people who claim it's going to put MS out of business just like win7, vista, XP, ME, etc. did before it but people will use it because it's what the big companies are going to support.
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Grenage
It's very unlikely they'll change their way of operating, especially for a relatively token share. Still, Steam is so damn convenient; I'd rather have content with DRM, than no content at all.
I agree. But I can hope, can't I? The trend is moving away from DRM. Apple is the first big company to make a big move (with their music service). DRM doesn't add any value. Personally, I'd rather see that money invested into more levels or characters or expansions. But that's just MHO.
But again, (big name) games with DRM are better than no (big name) games at all.
Regarding the available titles, they have said that they would like to get all the games ported over. I dunno if that is going to happen... but many people and companies are reliant on Steam now... so if they say "thou shall port" it carries some weight.
Whatever the case, with all the recent developments, the next couple years is going to be very interesting for gaming news.
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I long for the day I can play Civilization V natively on GNU/Linux.
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graabein
I long for the day I can play Civilization V natively on GNU/Linux.
Never played it but have you ever given 0 A.D. a spin. Just wondering what people think of it. Seems to have potential from what I've read.
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Just to understand how many games will be ported in Linux.
How many MacOS games are available through Steam?
Maybe we can have finally a more realistic and credible statistical idea (read: "lie") on Valve's ability to bring big names of the industry on other platform
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alexan
Just to understand how many games will be ported in Linux.
How many MacOS games are available through Steam?
Maybe we can have finally a more realistic and credible statistical idea (read: "lie") on Valve's ability to bring big names of the industry on other platform
Yeah, but now that they seem to be in the porting business, maybe they'll start getting more games over to MacOS, too.
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forrestcupp
Yeah, but now that they seem to be in the porting business, maybe they'll start getting more games over to MacOS, too.
Well, if you follow @steam_games on twitter, and get the message X is now available on steamplay. Then you'll know something has been ported to MacOS :P
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alexan
Just to understand how many games will be ported in Linux.
How many MacOS games are available through Steam?
Maybe we can have finally a more realistic and credible statistical idea (read: "lie") on Valve's ability to bring big names of the industry on other platform
http://ompldr.org/vZXg4ZQ/Screenshot...2017:15:17.png
You can't really say that linux will get 380 games as it would depend on the individual companies to port them.
For now I would say look at Valve's own Source Engine based games. Hopefully other companies follow suite.
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mips
You can't really say that linux will get 380 games as it would depend on the individual companies to port them.
For now I would say look at Valve's own Source Engine based games. Hopefully other companies follow suite.
I think you misunderstood. I think Gabe's talking about using WINE to "port" across the games that are not (or do not have made) native versions.
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I think Alexan's point is just because Steam is coming to Linux doesn't mean 100% of the library is too.
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Sslaxx
I think you misunderstood. I think Gabe's talking about using WINE to "port" across the games that are not (or do not have made) native versions.
I don't think so. They're actually almost finished creating and tweaking the native Linux port of the Source engine. I think he really intends to have native Linux ports of a lot of Source engine games. It's the 3rd party game creators that distribute their games with Steam that he can't control.