Good gaming laptop?

[darkvampire]

That can play this:

http://www.oblivionportal.com/info/systemreq.php

like silk;

Thats the most intensive as I'm going to go.

But low price tag please; and I want pricing and stuff to be in English Pounds :)

Thanks alot. :wink:

[maheshjr2000]

Depends are you willing to use Oldblivion?

[darkvampire]

Depends are you willing to use Oldblivion?

Rather have it on the eyecandy settings. :wink:

[linuxguymarshall]

I don't know what you mean by good gaming laptop at a low price but you cant go wrong with a macbook or the juggernaut of them all ; the MacBook Pro

[darkvampire]

I don't know what you mean by good gaming laptop at a low price but you cant go wrong with a macbook or the juggernaut of them all ; the MacBook Pro

Apple aren't good for gaming. This will have to be a Windows PC. (:

[linuxguymarshall]

Apple aren't good for gaming. This will have to be a Windows PC. (:


http://www.apple.com/games
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/bootcamp.html



http://www.pcworld.com/article/136649-3/in_pictures_the_most_notable_notebooks_of_2007.htm l
http://www.pcworld.com/article/154004/mbp_benchmark.html?tk=rss_reviews


What were you saying about Apple computers are not good for games?

[AllRadioisDead]

http://www.apple.com/games
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/bootcamp.html



http://www.pcworld.com/article/136649-3/in_pictures_the_most_notable_notebooks_of_2007.htm l
http://www.pcworld.com/article/154004/mbp_benchmark.html?tk=rss_reviews


What were you saying about Apple computers are not good for games?
Apple computers have terrible hardware for a ridiculously high price. If you wanted osx that bad, go take a look at osx86 and buy a windows laptop. Much better bang for your buck. Also, most games don't work on mac so you're better off going windows/(linux?)
You don't want to have to run bootcamp everytime you want to run your favorite game...

[linuxguymarshall]

Apple computers have terrible hardware for a ridiculously high price.
WHOA! I will admit that Apple hardware is ridiculously over-priced but you get an excellent warrenty, one of the greatest operating systems on the market (OS X-x86 still has some bugs) and you get membership into a cult. and as for the hardware being bad I think you are terribly mistaken. I have a PowerBook G4 that runs great after 6-7 years and shows no sign of dying. Great battery life too. Most PC laptops would be struggling to boot at that age.

[binbash]

WHOA! I will admit that Apple hardware is ridiculously over-priced but you get an excellent warrenty, one of the greatest operating systems on the market (OS X-x86 still has some bugs) and you get membership into a cult. and as for the hardware being bad I think you are terribly mistaken. I have a PowerBook G4 that runs great after 6-7 years and shows no sign of dying. Great battery life too. Most PC laptops would be struggling to boot at that age.

I agree with this part.

@darkvampire

Get a laptop which has NVIDIA card(NOT ati ), also be sure it has fast cpu and around 2 gb ram.

[collinp]

Apples are not for gaming. That is a fact. Apples have terrible specifications compared to a similarly priced windowz computer. This (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220403) is the laptop I was going to recommend, it can outperform a Macbook and a Macbook Pro in any way, shape, or form. Plus, that laptop only costs $1,400. Get that one if you want power for today's games and for future games.

[linuxguymarshall]

but it will only run at 100% power at which point it will lose power and lose power and start to suck. By 3 years it will be tough to run. 4 years it will be as good as a low end lappy. 5 years it will get to BIOS and die. Macs stay good for a long time.

[KingHanco]

My boss Bill told me that mac aren't that good for games. He have a mac and been buying one every few years. He work as business parter over a company that I have no idea what kind it is. His kids uses pc for games which he refuses to let them have a mac for games. He won't even let his wife touch his mac very much.

Going have to trust us here. But why have a mac for games?

[collinp]

but it will only run at 100% power at which point it will lose power and lose power and start to suck. By 3 years it will be tough to run. 4 years it will be as good as a low end lappy. 5 years it will get to BIOS and die. Macs stay good for a long time.

My desktop is 9 years old. It plays games fine on a Geforce 6200. My laptop is over 10 years old. It still runs fine, apart from its inability to game. Macs age at the same rate as PCs, their hardware becomes obsolete at the same rate. Macs retain their value better, that is the only good long term effect that macs have. Apple itself has nearly discontinued its support of the G processor architecture developed by them. A Macbook or a Macbook Pro from 2 years ago cannot play modern games with any playable FPS.

[AllRadioisDead]

Apples are not for gaming. That is a fact. Apples have terrible specifications compared to a similarly priced windowz computer. This (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220403) is the laptop I was going to recommend, it can outperform a Macbook and a Macbook Pro in any way, shape, or form. Plus, that laptop only costs $1,400. Get that one if you want power for today's games and for future games.

I agree with you 100%, thanks for backing my point. Apples are not for gaming.

[maheshjr2000]

MACS for gaming NEVAR! The hardware is more expensive for the same amount of power.

[grazed]

but it will only run at 100% power at which point it will lose power and lose power and start to suck. By 3 years it will be tough to run. 4 years it will be as good as a low end lappy. 5 years it will get to BIOS and die. Macs stay good for a long time.

Mac's use the same hardware. I don't know where you've gotten your information.

Computers don't "lose power" over time, windows may degrade with a bloated registry, but that is about it. only takes 20 minutes to reformat, or you could just use linux.

also, your recommendation for a macbook, is not a good one since they use integrated graphics. it would perform awfully bad with any game that has come out in recent years.

[Changturkey]

Get an ASUS with an 9600/9800. G-50.

[Vadi]

I game on my system76 serval 3. 8600m gt card, tanks games just fine on medium-high settings.

normal battery live is 3 hours, didn't try it with gaming though

[linuxguymarshall]

also, your recommendation for a macbook, is not a good one since they use integrated graphics. it would perform awfully bad with any game that has come out in recent years.

They only have integrated graphics but seeing as how he wants a laptop, not a desktop, he is probably not much of a hard-core graphics officianoto so the newer, NVIDIA integrated graphics should work just fine.

[crazyfuturamanoob]

Acer Aspire 7520g? Dunno about price in pounds, but it was 800€ some time ago.

This can run most of modern games with pretty high graphics settings. Even Crysis went OK (texture quality = very high).

But remember that a laptop is always a bad choice for gaming, it's very expensive.

[KingHanco]

MAME team will tell you the same way about laptop too.

[darkvampire]

I'd like to say thank you to all the people who have made a valid contribution to my question.

Secondly, I would like to say that this forum was not titled as "Windows Vs. Mac: Gaming; Pricing; and other fan-boy rants".

It's clearly obvious that for the best gaming capability that I will need to use a Windows Operating System.

Those who have not misread the title, however, thank you - & I was also wondering if the Dell Vostro is also a capable of decent gaming link. (http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&id=vostronb_1510&l=en&s=bsd)

Thank you again for your help - it is much appreciated. :wink:

[grazed]

It sure is. As long as you get the dedicated graphics card (8400 GS in this case) you'll be fine.

A major issue a lot of people buying notebooks run into is a lack of a graphics card, and typically, once purchased, it is very difficult to upgrade. Most notebooks you can't upgrade the graphics at all.

The integrated card that comes by default (x1300) will struggle with games as simple as World of Warcraft, or even Counter Strike, running frame rates around 20-30. With newer games on the other hand, you'll be looking at around 10-15 FPS, unless you crank everything to its lowest setting.

EDIT: forgot to mention, the price difference in the US for the default celeron and core 2 duo is only 25$. that's a mountain of improvement as well. =)

[darkvampire]

It sure is. As long as you get the dedicated graphics card (8400 GS in this case) you'll be fine.

Ahh. You see I love to game; but I move about frequently. I have to buy into all the portable-gaming options - oh the company of my Nintendo DS has served me well :wink:

The integrated card that comes by default (x1300) will struggle with games as simple as World of Warcraft, or even Counter Strike, running frame rates around 20-30. With newer games on the other hand, you'll be looking at around 10-15 FPS, unless you crank everything to its lowest setting.

Ahh; you see that is not what I want. I really want to play Oblivion - man I love that game - and with the decent eyecandy; but not to break the bank :wink:

[darkvampire]

This (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220403) is the laptop I was going to recommend.

The site and pricing is in American.

[grazed]

Ahh. You see I love to game; but I move about frequently. I have to buy into all the portable-gaming options - oh the company of my Nintendo DS has served me well :wink:



Ahh; you see that is not what I want. I really want to play Oblivion - man I love that game - and with the decent eyecandy; but not to break the bank :wink:

The dedicated card option for that laptop has settings you can play around with. so when you're unplugged, it will switch to integrated, and save a ton of power, etc... It also doesn't change the portability of the laptop at all.

but yeah, oblivion is very demanding, i don't think it's really possible to run that game smoothly at all on an integrated chip.

[the_eternal_dark]

Are you looking to game from within Linux or are you wanting to use Windows? Either way, you should check into the Alienware m15x. I have one, it is worth the money. Nvidia 9800m gt ftw. Buy 4gb of ram later on and you're set.

My setup:

CPU: T9300 2.5ghz
GPU: 9800m GT
RAM: 4GB (upgraded after purchase for about $70 or so on newegg)
HDD: 320GB 7200rpm WD Scorpio Black (upgraded from 120GB HDD factory installed)
Display: 1920x1200 lcd panel
ODD: Standard 8x DVD burner
KB: Non-Illuminated
Mouse: Logitech G9
Headphones: Sennheiser HD555
Customizations: Factory custom engraving
OS: Ubuntu 8.04 64-bit

I love it. You'd love it too. :guitar:

[Vadi]

I'm getting a laptop next with 9800gt (this one (http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=87)).

How does it perform on quake wars or the unigine test (http://unigine.com/download/files/Unigine_Tropics-1.1.tar.bz2)?

[systm]

This (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152073&Tpk=MSI) Is the one I'm planning on getting, its got decent specs, not too expensive, will play most modern games, but if you can wait, see what happens with the Hybrid Integrated/Dedicated graphics in laptops, like the MBPro has, and you may be able to find a better deal out there.

@linuxguymarshall:
you've obviously been drinking the Apple cool-aid far too long. While most of their products have been and still are aesthetically pleasing, your not getting anything more for the amount of money your paying.

*OT*
OSx86 is a great alternative to buying a true Apple, just support the true builders, and buy a license.

[Changturkey]

This (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152073&Tpk=MSI) Is the one I'm planning on getting, its got decent specs, not too expensive, will play most modern games, but if you can wait, see what happens with the Hybrid Integrated/Dedicated graphics in laptops, like the MBPro has, and you may be able to find a better deal out there.

@linuxguymarshall:
you've obviously been drinking the Apple cool-aid far too long. While most of their products have been and still are aesthetically pleasing, your not getting anything more for the amount of money your paying.

*OT*
OSx86 is a great alternative to buying a true Apple, just support the true builders, and buy a license.

Wow that is a great deal.

[grazed]

Are you looking to game from within Linux or are you wanting to use Windows? Either way, you should check into the Alienware m15x. I have one, it is worth the money. Nvidia 9800m gt ftw. Buy 4gb of ram later on and you're set.

My setup:

CPU: T9300 2.5ghz
GPU: 9800m GT
RAM: 4GB (upgraded after purchase for about $70 or so on newegg)
HDD: 320GB 7200rpm WD Scorpio Black (upgraded from 120GB HDD factory installed)
Display: 1920x1200 lcd panel
ODD: Standard 8x DVD burner
KB: Non-Illuminated
Mouse: Logitech G9
Headphones: Sennheiser HD555
Customizations: Factory custom engraving
OS: Ubuntu 8.04 64-bit

I love it. You'd love it too. :guitar:

alienware is just as absurdly overpriced as mac. definitely not worth shelling out an extra $800-1000 for the name, while all along you could have gotten a system twice as powerful from another vendor.

just looking at those customization pages make me cringe... 150 bucks for 1 gig of ram is insane. let alone they are notorious for having overheating and general reliability issues.

[curvedinfinity]

I think the best value in gaming laptops currently is the Dell XPS M1530 N...

$1074
Core 2 Duo 2.1 Ghz
4 GB Ram
320 GB HDD
GeForce 8600 GT
Plus, it comes with Ubuntu preloaded :D

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dydwhu1&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&kc=segtopic~linux_3x

Edit: I just saw those MSI laptops on newegg, which are screaming deals.

[darkvampire]

I think I have found this (http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.204-3272.aspx).
What's your opinions?

:wink: