I hope a new theme will be developed finally

[victorche]

Please, make something new... At least for 9.04
I am sure there are a lots of people out there, who can help too.

Make it finally a 21st century OS :)

And here is one wallpaper for the Ubuntu users, made by myself. Nothing special, just a 20 mins work. Hope you like it :)

[Slug71]

There is already a thread regarding Themes. ;)


Actually two

[aaronb]

I'd rather have dust 0.2 installed by default instead of the many screen savers.

[mewithafez]

Please, make something new... At least for 9.04
I am sure there are a lots of people out there, who can help too.

Make it finally a 21st century OS :)

And here is one wallpaper for the Ubuntu users, made by myself. Nothing special, just a 20 mins work. Hope you like it :)

While there are about 8 billion threads about new themes already, you should put this up on gnome-look and ubuntu-art! I don't generally like branded wallpaper but the background texture is fun :D

[victorche]

Well, sorry about creating a new thread about it... I was hoping to create a thread with some suggestions in it.

About the texture... Well it should look like a paper with some effects i added to it :)

Nothing special at all... And I have no idea how to submit it to Ubuntu Art :)

And I can make one without the logo for you if you want ;)

[Slug71]

The texture does look good!

[Merk42]

There will not be a new theme for 9.04, nor 9.10 nor ever.

You may hear that Ubuntu will get a new theme, and those massive reconstructing of GNOME, but I assure you none of that will happen.

[gnomeuser]

There will not be a new theme for 9.04, nor 9.10 nor ever.

You may hear that Ubuntu will get a new theme, and those massive reconstructing of GNOME, but I assure you none of that will happen.

I beg to differ, upstream is already working on GTK3 and it does involve a lot of theming changes which should give themers previously unimaginable power. There are also changes going on to alter the way GNOME looks and feels for GNOME3, you can check the gnome-shell.

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2008-October/msg00037.html

Ubuntu might very well have woefully little to do with this work but that does not mean it doesn't happen.

okay enough trooll feeding for now.

[Merk42]

I beg to differ, upstream is already working on GTK3 and it does involve a lot of theming changes which should give themers previously unimaginable power. There are also changes going on to alter the way GNOME looks and feels for GNOME3, you can check the gnome-shell.

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2008-October/msg00037.html

Ubuntu might very well have woefully little to do with this work but that does not mean it doesn't happen.

okay enough trooll feeding for now.

As I said, I'm aware of all that, but I'll believe it when I see it.

[gnomeuser]

As I said, I'm aware of all that, but I'll believe it when I see it.

so the code posted for both the gnome shell and the libcss library somehow.. averted your keen eyes. There is plenty of code for all of these things but they are not ready for deployment yet, never the less it's there, believe it.

[bash]

According to one of the blog entries by Mark Shuttleworth, quite a few Canonical employees were at the GNOME usability hackfest, where the current mock-ups and ideas result from. So it's seem not just to be upstream working on it, but Canonical/Ubuntu seems to be at least involved as well.

Things like the new user switch/logout applet which were developed by Canonical seem to make it into the upstream default GUI is you look at the mock-up for the future GNOME shell.

So I don't think it's fair to say that Canonical/Ubuntu does no work in the area of design. Personally I would have also loved to see a new theme since a few versions, but I have to say I prefer the current way of it taking more time, if it means that in the end we will get a real improvement to the desktop. And not just a panel set to semi-transparent and windows in brown instead of grey.

[aethralis]

We have been hiring, for months, designers and user experience guys. It has taken much longer than I hoped. That team will be in place in Jan/Feb, I imagine," he [Mark Shuttleworth] said. "Whether their initial work will make a dramatic visual impact on Jaunty, I don't know. I know that other work, on the user experience front, will land, but i'll keep some surprises in store till later.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081109-ubuntu-open-week-mark-shuttleworth-speaks.html

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekintrepid/AskMark

[gnomeuser]

According to one of the blog entries by Mark Shuttleworth, quite a few Canonical employees were at the GNOME usability hackfest, where the current mock-ups and ideas result from. So it's seem not just to be upstream working on it, but Canonical/Ubuntu seems to be at least involved as well.

Things like the new user switch/logout applet which were developed by Canonical seem to make it into the upstream default GUI is you look at the mock-up for the future GNOME shell.

So I don't think it's fair to say that Canonical/Ubuntu does no work in the area of design. Personally I would have also loved to see a new theme since a few versions, but I have to say I prefer the current way of it taking more time, if it means that in the end we will get a real improvement to the desktop. And not just a panel set to semi-transparent and windows in brown instead of grey.

One Canonical employee did some mockups of the ideas the group discussed. All the code that has followed has largely been done by Havoc Pennington (formerly of Red Hat fame, now with Litl.). I don't think it's unfair to say Canonical contributes nearly no code upstream (even Mark admits this much). One could argue that Canonical does other things, like exposing software for testing, but all of us do that - Ubuntu just happens to have a lot of users and good tools (apport) for getting useful reports filed early. I believe Canonical can be a good team player, and I believe that deep down they want to be but sometimes friends have to tell friends that they are doing wrong. This is not a sudden thing that everyone is asking Canonical to contribute, it has been going on for years and still we see very little code from that side of the fence.

Sadly Mark also proudly advocates forking upstream code instead of working with upstream when it suits his own agenda[1]. For an man who can hardly say 2 sentences without telling the rest of us how to work[2] or mentioning how good doing things upstream is I find that rather disappointing.

[1] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/233
[2] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/146

(Note it is important to mark the difference between canonical the company and Ubuntu the community - The Ubuntu community is not in any way at fault for Canonicals lack of code contributions and should not suffer attacks for something that have no power over)

[Changturkey]

I think Fedora, OpenSuse, and Mandriva contribute more.

[bash]

One Canonical employee did some mockups of the ideas the group discussed. All the code that has followed has largely been done by Havoc Pennington (formerly of Red Hat fame, now with Litl.). I don't think it's unfair to say Canonical contributes nearly no code upstream (even Mark admits this much). One could argue that Canonical does other things, like exposing software for testing, but all of us do that - Ubuntu just happens to have a lot of users and good tools (apport) for getting useful reports filed early. I believe Canonical can be a good team player, and I believe that deep down they want to be but sometimes friends have to tell friends that they are doing wrong. This is not a sudden thing that everyone is asking Canonical to contribute, it has been going on for years and still we see very little code from that side of the fence.

Sadly Mark also proudly advocates forking upstream code instead of working with upstream when it suits his own agenda[1]. For an man who can hardly say 2 sentences without telling the rest of us how to work[2] or mentioning how good doing things upstream is I find that rather disappointing.

[1] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/233
[2] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/146

(Note it is important to mark the difference between canonical the company and Ubuntu the community - The Ubuntu community is not in any way at fault for Canonicals lack of code contributions and should not suffer attacks for something that have no power over)

What I said was in only regards to a new theme and that I think that it is unfair from some people in this thread to say that they have no faith in Canonical ever delivering a new theme for Ubuntu. I merely wanted to show that there is indeed work going on, that also involves Canonical/Ubuntu.

Don't know if you misunderstood my post then or just felt like adding some more general points about Canonical and contributing to upstream. Anyways back to theming and GTK+. Anyone know where I can I find a more current read up about what is planned/what will be changed for GNOME 3/GTK+ 3. Since the first announcement of GNOME 3 I haven't heard much about it since and haven't really found the right place to keep updated. Tried planet gnome and there's lots of other interesting stuff but not much about GNOME 3. Also the GNOME page for Version 3 still says it will be updated some time (it says that since July ;)). So something like a blog following development would be nice.

[gnomeuser]

Don't know if you misunderstood my post then or just felt like adding some more general points about Canonical and contributing to upstream. Anyways back to theming and GTK+. Anyone know where I can I find a more current read up about what is planned/what will be changed for GNOME 3/GTK+ 3. Since the first announcement of GNOME 3 I haven't heard much about it since and haven't really found the right place to keep updated. Tried planet gnome and there's lots of other interesting stuff but not much about GNOME 3. Also the GNOME page for Version 3 still says it will be updated some time (it says that since July ;)). So something like a blog following development would be nice.

GTK3 has some direction, lots of work is going on. GNOME3 as a platform is still seeking a direction, there are things we know we want to do and other things are more up in the air. How much to change, what trends in computing are felt to be important and such. You can't find a single blog or website that focuses only on GNOME3 development, mainly because a clear plan does not exist.

There is no roadmap of promised features, there are some changes to the platform we want to do but those are not really "end user sexy", most people likely don't. If you do want something that gives you an overview of different ideas and projects people work on:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Desktop/Whiteboards

I know this is on the Fedora Wiki but it's merely a list of things we would like to see improved, mostly links to things on the GNOME Wiki and other interesting projects. It's also not all GNOME3 stuff, but desktop stuff none the less.

I like the current state of experimentation, we are identifying real trouble spots and trying to think of fresh ways to solve them. Lots of interesting new technology is coming about as a result.

Aside that, projects like WizBit are positioned to bring great things to the desktop, but it's unknown if it will be part of GNOME3, at least from the word go.