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bhuvi
October 27th, 2008, 02:47 PM
i have been to debian users forums for a while and i have seen users complaining about ubuntu for being not contributing to linux and debian back and i also read an article about which is popular distribution among linux newbies by analyzing the google search data and it showed that the search related to ubuntu is going to overtake search related to linux.they fear that ubuntu will eclipse other linux distributions what is your view about this??
also i have included link of that:http://codingexperiments.com/archives/149

Mason Whitaker
October 27th, 2008, 02:54 PM
No, All of my Linux friends tell me to switch to Debian, OpenSUSE, or Redhat. Quite Simply, I love Ubuntu to much to switch to anything else.

init1
October 27th, 2008, 05:43 PM
Yeah, I tried Debian after using Ubuntu. It's far more stable on my laptop than Ubuntu is.

kerry_s
October 27th, 2008, 06:09 PM
i started with debian, moved to ubuntu, now i'm back with debian. my laptops old 9 or 10 years old, it just cant keep up to all the new stuff. i already know i'm going to have problems with lenny. :(

init1
October 27th, 2008, 06:52 PM
i started with debian, moved to ubuntu, now i'm back with debian. my laptops old 9 or 10 years old, it just cant keep up to all the new stuff. i already know i'm going to have problems with lenny. :(
Yeah I worry about that too. The last two times I tried to upgrade to Lenny, it totally broke my system. And I can't safely repartition since my partition table is corrupted (GParted shows one big gray block).

cardinals_fan
October 27th, 2008, 07:41 PM
No. I'm not a fan of Debian-based distros anyway, and Debian has always struck me as an intentionally complicated Ubuntu. Installing proprietary components was sadistically difficult in my tests.

Also, the legendary stability of Debian never came through for me. It crashed just as much as Ubuntu - when I want stable, I'll stick with Slackware.

smoker
October 27th, 2008, 07:54 PM
i had debian on a laptop for a while, which was ok. i like ubuntu though and don't have a problem with it being popular. if other distros think they're hard done by, maybe they should try and analyse why ubuntu is so popular, and adapt to what the new linux user seems to want. that said, i wouldn't want any other distro to lose it's uniqueness, or fade and die, choice is always good, the pc i'm using now has pclos on it which i think a great distro, but next week it may have mandriva, or suse, or ubuntu. i chop and change a lot :-)

OutOfReach
October 27th, 2008, 07:57 PM
Yes, I'm hoping to try Debian one day.

danbuter
October 27th, 2008, 08:19 PM
Yes. Couldn't get it to install, though. This was over a year ago. I have also tried sidux, which is pretty cool.

Grant A.
October 27th, 2008, 08:38 PM
Yeah I worry about that too. The last two times I tried to upgrade to Lenny, it totally broke my system. And I can't safely repartition since my partition table is corrupted (GParted shows one big gray block).

Wouldn't it be the best idea to back up your data, write a new partition table, and then install your OSs again, for future convenience?

JawsThemeSwimming428
October 27th, 2008, 08:46 PM
I am a distro junkie...I run every distro imaginable on real hardware and in Virtualbox/VMWare. I started with Ubuntu, but naturally, since Ubuntu is based on Debian I tried it as well. Debian is a little more difficult to configure to your liking BUT... MUCH more stable. If you run Debian stable you are rock solid. If you run Debian testing, you are still pretty darn solid. Debian testing requires a bit of knowledge to keep it running solid but it still isn't bad (that's why there is Sidux). As far as people starting to view Ubuntu as the only Linux, I agree. I think that is a very common misconception but I don't see much that can be done about it. Of all the distros that have a large corporation backing them (Suse, Red Hat/Fedora, Mandriva to an extent) Ubuntu is the best. However, there are many distros that are just as good/better that do not have the financial backing to make a name for themselves (Mepis, Linux Mint, Debian, Arch). I don't think it will change anytime soon.

Sorivenul
October 27th, 2008, 10:57 PM
My personal path, starting out, was similar to this:
Slackware, Debian, Ubuntu, Debian.

I started with Debian and moved to Ubuntu for the ease of setup. Older now, even more knowledgeable, and ever more "picky" about my system setup, I boot Debian most of the time on my main machine, and keep Ubuntu as dual-boot for the purposes of enjoyment and reference for these forums.

mohitchawla
October 28th, 2008, 02:56 AM
Well, at least, Linux = Ubuntu will be more helpful than Linux = Red Hat.

EnGorDiaz
October 28th, 2008, 03:00 AM
i havent because debian has full root enabled danger zone for me so no i havent

j.miller565
October 28th, 2008, 05:42 AM
I've always wanted to try debian, but I've had this urge to try it recently to experience Ubuntu's "father", knowing that Debian must be great in all manners since Ubuntu is one of the best distributions around that I've ever used.

handy
October 28th, 2008, 06:22 AM
I started on Debian, spent a fortnight there, found the Ubuntu forums, where mips helped me get my internet functioning. Not long after that I was using Ubuntu which eventually turned into distro' hopscotch & finding my true love - Arch. :lolflag:

I have no desire to use Debian, that's not to say there is anything wrong with it. I'm grateful for Debian's existence, you know why. :-)

SunnyRabbiera
October 28th, 2008, 07:41 AM
Well technically i have used debian before, I prefer debian based distros because of stuff like APT that make package management simple and easy going, I had way too much trouble with YUM and other package managers to deem them usable.
But will i use hardcore debian? Maybe, though I will have to mod it a lot before i go distributing it like I do Ubuntu.

basenvironment
October 28th, 2008, 10:26 AM
... ubuntu for being not contributing to linux ...]

Yea I see stuff like this

http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/lpc_2008_keynote.html

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/publications/linuxkerneldevelopment.php


I have tried ubuntu and occasionally I use it for a while but it has never made me want to stop running Debian.


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perlluver
October 28th, 2008, 10:31 AM
I used Debian for about 2 weeks, but wow, it so far behind if you use Etch. And Lenny wouldn't work for me at that time. If you can get Lenny to run, then yeah go ahead and give it a go. If you want stable, and old, then go ahead with Etch.

Vryko Lakas
October 28th, 2008, 12:02 PM
I've been curious about it (and the Debian info that shows up with a first-time Ubuntu run is a welcome sort of "teaser"), but I don't know what kind of advantage I could get from Debian.
From what I understand, Ubuntu is mainly a snapshot of an unstable but more up-to-date version of Debian that's ironed out a bit, customized and polished up for release? I don't need "bleeding edge," but I would like to have reasonably up-to-date but tested and relatively stable versions of software.

will1911a1
October 28th, 2008, 12:14 PM
I tried Debian after getting fed up with Ubuntu crashing all the time and didn't really care for it.

Lots of people DO like it though and it didn't crash even once for me.

snowpine
October 28th, 2008, 12:14 PM
One thing that's really impressed me about Debian Lenny is how well Flash videos are working without installing any non-free software! Gnash rules! :)

Lenny also worked with my eee's wireless, whereas Hardy and Intrepid did not.

I love Ubuntu too, though... thanks to the magic of GRUB I do not have to choose one or the other. :)

jacobw.uk
October 28th, 2008, 03:12 PM
I have, but I don't think I would use it again, it too technically focused for what I use computers for :p And I think their pure unix philosophy often creates second rate solutions compared to Ubuntu.

HighFrictionZone
October 28th, 2008, 04:25 PM
Well. I've installed Debian on my server. It works just fine for running Apache2 and serving up web pages.

C!oud
October 28th, 2008, 05:01 PM
I used to use Lenny and I prefer it over Ubuntu and it was even my preferred distro of choice, that was until I found Slackware, *BSD, and Arch... Anyways I was going to wait for the next release of Debian and replace Intrepid with it but that might be a while...

Nxion
October 30th, 2008, 12:46 PM
I used Debian a little before and I liked it, once I found Ubuntu though I changed instantly. I might give Debian another chance. I also want to try Arch and MAYBE openSUSE but I just don't know what to pick as my second distro of choice!

notwen
October 30th, 2008, 02:16 PM
What should we vote for if we used Debian prior to Ubuntu? =p

Barrucadu
October 30th, 2008, 02:36 PM
I used Debian for a day or so, I found it incredibly similar to Ubuntu (as I expected) so I moved onto something else (Zenwalk, I think)

lukjad007
October 30th, 2008, 02:39 PM
i have been to debian users forums for a while and i have seen users complaining about ubuntu for being not contributing to linux and debian back and i also read an article about which is popular distribution among linux newbies by analyzing the google search data and it showed that the search related to ubuntu is going to overtake search related to linux.they fear that ubuntu will eclipse other linux distributions what is your view about this??
also i have included link of that:http://codingexperiments.com/archives/149

I really want to try Debian and will be trying it soon.

wolfen69
October 31st, 2008, 01:41 AM
i havent because debian has full root enabled danger zone for me so no i havent

huh? root is not enabled as a user. you have to "su" into root, not unlike "sudo". you can screw up an ubuntu install just as easily.

SomeGuyDude
October 31st, 2008, 02:08 AM
I was intensely curious about Debian, but never went for it. I found Arch and haven't felt the need to try anything else.

I'm still curious about the legendary "stability". Arch has been the first I've ever used with even a hint of stability (latest kernel has a small hiccup), but Ubuntu was rock solid on my machine.