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Big Venus
November 28th, 2005, 12:04 AM
I was just wondering,
Why isn't the "posts: ##" being updated when we submit a post? Before everytime I would submit a post it updated, but I have just started back visiting the forums and have made a few posts and noticed that it stills says that I have 59 posts and I posted about 2 or 3 times already with 59 still showing...
Big Venus
aysiu
November 28th, 2005, 12:07 AM
Where are you posting?
Community Chat doesn't add to your post count.
Big Venus
November 28th, 2005, 01:19 PM
Yes mostly,
But back in June it did add to your post count...
ubuntu-geek
November 28th, 2005, 01:49 PM
Yeah we made some changes a few months back to the post count system they used to count but no longer. Hope that helps clarify.
mattheweast
November 29th, 2005, 02:04 PM
Yeah we made some changes a few months back to the post count system they used to count but no longer. Hope that helps clarify.
What was the reason for the change? I post almost exclusively in the community section ;)
kassetra
November 29th, 2005, 02:14 PM
What was the reason for the change? I post almost exclusively in the community section ;)
We're a technical support forum; having a "high post count" simply from the community areas gave the wrong impression to new users.
mattheweast
November 29th, 2005, 02:18 PM
If you define Ubuntuforums as a technical support forum, then I think that makes sense.
But, the fact that the forum has a community section by definition means that the forum has a community aspect as well as a technical aspect.
kassetra
November 29th, 2005, 02:22 PM
If you define Ubuntuforums as a technical support forum, then I think that makes sense.
But, the fact that the forum has a community section by definition means that the forum has a community aspect as well as a technical aspect.
No, we're a technical support forum, with a little extra area for some fun. Just like how almost all customer service call centers have a break room.
KingBahamut
November 29th, 2005, 02:41 PM
With a TV and a playset, and toys for children.
bored2k
November 29th, 2005, 02:49 PM
With a TV and a playset, and toys for children.
Does having a high post count make you feel bigger ME?
Wait. You got toys for having your post count!? Not fair :(!
ubuntu-geek
November 29th, 2005, 03:08 PM
I want some toys..
mattheweast
November 29th, 2005, 03:26 PM
[removed]
kassetra
November 29th, 2005, 03:36 PM
I want some toys..
You *HAVE* toys coming, sheesh! Be patient!
ubuntu-geek
December 2nd, 2005, 04:54 PM
To shed some light..
1. If the user posts in the community chat 99% of the time it isnt related to ubuntu, hence number #2..
2. User titles increase with post count. Someone who has "XXX" post counts in community chat about random stuff shouldn't have "Walking Coffee Mug" as their title..
3. This lets the user who wants a higher post count to participate in forum disucussions about ubuntu in the other 90+ areas to increase their post count and contribute to the community to gain a higher post count.
vampire_janus
December 3rd, 2005, 09:15 AM
if the community chat posts are not counted, then why are we told to post in there if we haven't post yet? and why the hell can't i search?
atoponce
December 3rd, 2005, 12:30 PM
if the community chat posts are not counted, then why are we told to post in there if we haven't post yet? and why the *** hell can't i search?
Becuase you need to click on the "Search" link in the brown bar right below the Ubuntu logo. You know, the one with "User CP", "Private Messages", "Guidlines", "Calendar", "New Posts", "Search", "Quick Links", and "Log Out".
esperantisto
December 6th, 2005, 04:36 AM
Well, as I understand from this thread, I have no chance of increasing my status by posting to the Community Chat. But why on the Earth does the forum greet me like that:
Our records indicate that you have never posted to our site before! Why not make your first post today by saying hello to our Community Chat forum.
What's the sence of “saying hello to our Community Chat forum” then?
Maybe, it would be a good idea to count the first message to the Community Chat?
Big Venus
December 7th, 2005, 12:52 AM
kassetra and all the other moderators, then you all need to deduct 1000 or more from your post count. Don't lie and say you haven't got some that came from the community section.
Well, am I right ?
Thought so...
kassetra
December 7th, 2005, 06:19 AM
kassetra and all the other moderators, then you all need to deduct 1000 or more from your post count. Don't lie and say you haven't got some that came from the community section.
Well, am I right ?
Thought so...
No, you are not correct. 1000 *counted* posts in chat? not even close....
Sure I have some counted ones from chat, so do MANY, MANY, MANY other users as well.
I'm not deducting posts from anyone's account, and certainly not a ridiculous number like 1000.
Goddess_of_Linux
December 8th, 2005, 01:24 PM
I see that what 'Optimal Aurora' told me is still true. Ubuntu and Linux in general, are still not advanced enough to make prime time on my desktop or servers and definitely on any of my groups machines as well.
I have notice watching your community section that people are still chatting in there. But that in the support areas, people are chatting there so it will count on their post. So I think you all screwd yourselves when you dropped the community section form counting.
Well, good bye...
linbetwin
December 8th, 2005, 01:53 PM
Oh no! the Goddess has left us?! Whom will we worship from now on? There is no point in using Linux, now that it's not a religion anymore!
I'll leave too if you don't:
1. Count posts that I could've written but was too lasy to do it.
2. Award 100 posts for post containing only emoticons.
3. Award 200 posts for double-posting.
(dear moderators, I just couldn't help it. If you say edit, I'll edit.)
Goddess_of_Linux
December 9th, 2005, 01:59 AM
Oh no! the Goddess has left us?! Whom will we worship from now one? There is no point in using Linux, now that it's not a religion anymore!
I'm not gone yet...
Like another forum state maybe there should be two counters... Don't you think...
earobinson
December 9th, 2005, 01:45 PM
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=48 Is the link i think you where talking about Goddess_of_Linux
You will find that a lot of fourms have done this. Linuxforums.org for one (I hope thats right)
I like to see my numbers go up also but I think that one of the intentions of the post count is to give users a good idea how how good the advice they are getting is, read the above link tomwell makes some good points
ps im not a mod, but If you think you should edit then you probaly should.
*extra points to Goddess_of_Linux for ignoring what could be taken as a personal attack*
(my points are better than post counts ;))
linbetwin
December 9th, 2005, 02:03 PM
Dear Goddess_Of_Linux,
I appologize for the attack above and I hope you can forgive me.
Goddess_of_Linux
December 9th, 2005, 05:34 PM
Dear Goddess_Of_Linux,
I appologize for the attack above and I hope you can forgive me.
I don't consider that an attack. So there is no need to apologize.
Goddess_of_Linux
December 9th, 2005, 05:45 PM
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=48 Is the link i think you where talking about Goddess_of_Linux
You will find that a lot of fourms have done this. Linuxforums.org for one (I hope thats right)
I like to see my numbers go up also but I think that one of the intentions of the post count is to give users a good idea how how good the advice they are getting is, read the above link tomwell makes some good points
ps im not a mod, but If you think you should edit then you probaly should.
*extra points to Goddess_of_Linux for ignoring what could be taken as a personal attack*
(my points are better than post counts ;))
I am a programmer/security person, so what you all are saying is that if I go out there on the forum and somebody has a problem like their resolution is off or a more serious problem like the computer incountering a servere buffer over run (granted linux usually doesn't have this problem much unlike Windows), but whay you all are saying is that people like me that just decided to join the lubuntu community could still chime in about these events and those users may not even read our post because our post count is so low.
I have noticed that from some of my friends that have posted on this and other forums, they had experienced the problem before and then they decided to help and even though they posted the solution to the problem (I know that all of my friends post accurate solutions to problems) but the thread starter and other people that posted to that thread, would try to give their two cents and that would cause the more problems than help, and the thread starter and other people that posted would not even acknowledge that one of my friends actually even posted.
I don't know if you all have ever experienced this, but I have and that is why a few of my friends aren't even giving linux a second look. 'Optimal Aurora' even wrong me about joining this one because of that same reason.
So would you like to rephrase what you said, above...
...Linux
jdong
December 9th, 2005, 09:31 PM
The idea of two counters has been discussed before... It sounds neat.
but for now for the very least, we are deciding to stay with post counts as a measure of technical experience to aid users in evaluating advice in technical support areas.
linbetwin
December 10th, 2005, 06:35 AM
But where are the statistics from the front page? (the top posters on the bottom of the page)
earobinson
December 10th, 2005, 02:33 PM
hum i couldent tell you, I rember last time i was looking for them I had a hard time and found them If i find them ill let u know
Malphas
December 13th, 2005, 02:22 PM
Who cares about post count anyway?
earobinson
December 13th, 2005, 02:43 PM
I think reasons stated above should point this out.
I can be used as a tool to judge how good the advice you are getting is.
aysiu
December 13th, 2005, 02:47 PM
I think reasons stated above should point this out.
I can be used as a tool to judge how good the advice you are getting is. I may be the exception to the rule, but my advice is hardly that good considering how high my post count is. I'm not that technically savvy, and people shouldn't think I'm some expert just because I post a lot.
earobinson
December 13th, 2005, 02:52 PM
Its in this tread or the one linked in this tread that we talk about that and I stated that we should use the posts per day instead.
But the post count is better than nothing IMO.
megamania
December 13th, 2005, 04:10 PM
Who cares about post count anyway?
That's exactly what I was thinking.
This forum is the best one I have ever seen. Come on, let's keep it up regardless of the post count! :-)
xequence
December 13th, 2005, 04:12 PM
That's exactly what I was thinking.
This forum is the best one I have ever seen. Come on, let's keep it up regardless of the post count! :-)
Its just kinda nice to tell the people who just joined from the people who have been posting like mad for years, from the people who have not posted at all in some years.
earobinson
December 13th, 2005, 04:14 PM
A lot of the replys here make me think post per day (in the last month or total) would be the best option.
Anyone here know how easy that would be to implement?
Is it time we took this to the polls?
xequence
December 13th, 2005, 04:17 PM
A lot of the replys here make me think post per day (in the last month or total) would be the best option.
Anyone here know how easy that would be to implement?
Is it time we took this to the polls?
Id say to go with polls. But first, make a new thread asking for suggestions, so you dont miss any good ones.
Anyway, I still think total posts is the best. Honestly - what bad happens if I have a 1000+ post count, then like now, if I have under half that?
earobinson
December 13th, 2005, 04:19 PM
Check out what has just been added in the user profile, USER NOTES Im a fan if you cant tell
megamania
December 13th, 2005, 04:31 PM
This forum is the best one I have ever seen. Come on, let's keep it up regardless of the post count!
Its just kinda nice to tell the people who just joined from the people who have been posting like mad for years, from the people who have not posted at all in some years.
sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I find the post count very useful, but I don't think it's worth arguing about it.
It's a fairly accurate way to tell how much you contribute to the forum's life, and for that reason I would leave it the way it is. Probably no other solution would be perfect either.
xequence
December 13th, 2005, 04:34 PM
sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I find the post count very useful, but I don't think it's worth arguing about it.
It's a fairly accurate way to tell how much you contribute to the forum's life, and for that reason I would leave it the way it is. Probably no other solution would be perfect either.
Ill argue about anything I have an opinion on ;)
Its just that lets say Person 1 knows alot about linux and can help on the support forums. They post 500 times on it and 50 times in the community chat. Person 2 cant help as much, they like the community chat better. They post 500 times in the general chat and 50 in the support forums. It looks like person 1 is much more active on the ubuntu forums, while person 2 isnt very much.
megamania
December 13th, 2005, 05:19 PM
Its just that lets say Person 1 knows alot about linux and can help on the support forums. They post 500 times on it and 50 times in the community chat. Person 2 cant help as much, they like the community chat better. They post 500 times in the general chat and 50 in the support forums. It looks like person 1 is much more active on the ubuntu forums, while person 2 isnt very much.
...and then comes person3 who doesn't know anything about Linux, posts 2000 requests for help in the support forums and becomes a "master roaster" :-)
just kidding of course, but that's why I said that we should take post counts for what they are: a fairly accurate indication of someone's participation in the forum.
linbetwin
December 13th, 2005, 05:25 PM
How about a count like this:
linbetwin:
539 n00b questions
0 geek replies
324 rants
982 flamebaits
earobinson
December 13th, 2005, 05:26 PM
How about a count like this:
linbetwin:
539 n00b questions
0 geek replies
324 rants
982 flamebaits
That is perfect, you want to write the code?
megamania
December 13th, 2005, 05:35 PM
That is perfect, you want to write the code?
Code? we should elect a jury in charge of judging every single post in order to declare it "noob", "contribution", etc.
Of course if you don't agree on how some of your messages were counted, you can appeal to a second jury... ;-)
earobinson
December 13th, 2005, 05:41 PM
I was under the impresion that
n00b questions = OP is question sections
geek replies = replys not in community chat
rants = community chat and other non tech
flamebaits= jailed posts
megamania
December 13th, 2005, 05:44 PM
I was under the impresion that
n00b questions = OP is question sections
geek replies = replys not in community chat
rants = community chat and other non tech
flamebaits= jailed posts
nahhh, that would be too easy... :-)
linbetwin
December 13th, 2005, 05:50 PM
I was under the impresion that
n00b questions = OP is question sections
geek replies = replys not in community chat
rants = community chat and other non tech
flamebaits= jailed posts
It was just a joke, man!
xequence
December 13th, 2005, 06:35 PM
just kidding of course, but that's why I said that we should take post counts for what they are: a fairly accurate indication of someone's participation in the forum.
Yes, I agree, but the point I am trying to make (to everyone) is that you cant get a fairly accurate indication of someones participation if you leave out a very big part of the forums in the post count.
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