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sapo
November 27th, 2005, 07:33 PM
I tried Xubuntu here and it was love at first sight, but the only thing that i disliked about it was the rox-filer, not that its not good, its very fast, but for some reasons i think its too complicated, and i missed some nautilus features.
The purpose of this thread is to help you install Thunar from svn, its far easier than rox and looks like nautilus, so you will be at home.
Thunar is still in early development stage, so dont expect too much from it, but it can do the basic stuff, open, copy, move, delete files, etc.
For more info and screenshots, click here (http://thunar.xfce.org/index.xhtml).
Here a screenshot:
http://thunar.xfce.org/images/filewindow-1.png
Btw.. lets start.
To install xfce (Xubuntu) in breezy is simple:
sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
To enter xfce just logoff from your Gnome or KDE Session, click on the session button and choose XFCE.
Thunar Debs:
Edit: If you are lazy, i made some debs, hope they work for you, if they dont, just uninstall them and use the svn below, here we go:
libexo_0.3svn-1_i386.deb (http://xgn.com.br/fabio/ubuntu/debs/libexo_0.3svn-1_i386.deb)
xfce4-dev-tools_4.3.1svn-1_i386.deb (http://xgn.com.br/fabio/ubuntu/debs/xfce4-dev-tools_4.3.1svn-1_i386.deb)
thunar_0.1.4svn-1_i386.deb (http://xgn.com.br/fabio/ubuntu/debs/thunar_0.1.4svn-1_i386.deb)
Thunar SVN
Now to install Thunar, open up a terminal and cut and paste, or type the following commands:
sudo apt-get install gtk-doc-tools libxml-parser-perl automake1.8 libxfce4util-dev subversion build-essential
svn co http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/libexo/trunk xfce4-svn-source/libexo
svn co http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/thunar/trunk xfce4-svn-source/thunar
svn co http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/xfce4-dev-tools/trunk xfce4-svn-source/xfce4-dev-tools
cd xfce4-svn-source/xfce4-dev-tools
sh autogen.sh
make
sudo make install
cd ../libexo/
sh autogen.sh
make
sudo make install
cd ../thunar/
sh autogen.sh
make
sudo make install
Now to open up tunar, just create a shortcut to it, right click on the xfce panel, add new item, then select laucher, select an icon, and in the command fill with thunar
If you have some problems:
This error loading the library:
thunar: error while loading shared libraries: libthunar-vfs-1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
occurs beacuse the library chache isn't updated. do this with the ldconfig command. After updating the cache it works fine.
If you have some more tips about it, or any doubs please ask, so i can update the howto and make it better.
For now is just it, i just wanted to share it with all the ubuntu users, if you have a slow pc or if you would like to make you fast pc fly, give Xubuntu a try.
Logic*
November 29th, 2005, 05:10 AM
Hi, thanks for the guide.
I followed your steps but have a problem at this point
andrew@tux xfce4-dev-tools $ sh autogen.sh
automake: configure.in: installing `./install-sh'
automake: configure.in: installing `./mkinstalldirs'
automake: configure.in: installing `./missing'
automake: configure.in: installing `./config.guess'
automake: configure.in: installing `./config.sub'
Makefile.am:13: require version 1.8, but have 1.4-p6
How can I fix this?
Thanks
sapo
November 29th, 2005, 05:13 AM
Hi, thanks for the guide.
I followed your steps but have a problem at this point
andrew@tux xfce4-dev-tools $ sh autogen.sh
automake: configure.in: installing `./install-sh'
automake: configure.in: installing `./mkinstalldirs'
automake: configure.in: installing `./missing'
automake: configure.in: installing `./config.guess'
automake: configure.in: installing `./config.sub'
Makefile.am:13: require version 1.8, but have 1.4-p6
How can I fix this?
Thanks
sudo apt-get install automake1.8
maybe you will have to uninstall the 1.4 version for it to work, search for automake using synaptic.
I added those in the howto now, thats because i just tried it on a fresh install of breezy yesterday, and it was missing some dependencies... if something doesnt work please ask.
kaamos
November 29th, 2005, 07:11 AM
Brilliant! Never really liked rox.. Got to try this out later.
Thanks for the howto!
Norm 2782
November 29th, 2005, 07:30 AM
Wow cool... looks a bit like Mac OS Finder (guess they got quite some inspiration from that). Would make me feel right at home, seeing that my main box is OS X ^^ Gonna try it on my Ubuntu lappy ASAP. Thanks!
r0nin
November 29th, 2005, 10:16 AM
When I get to the svn part, the console tells me it doesn't know the command!
pierre@p4:~$ svn co http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/libexo/trunk xfce4-svn-source/libexo
bash: svn: command not found
dabear
November 29th, 2005, 10:27 AM
yeees? Do you have svn installed then? lolliloll
sapo
November 29th, 2005, 11:31 AM
When I get to the svn part, the console tells me it doesn't know the command!
pierre@p4:~$ svn co http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/libexo/trunk xfce4-svn-source/libexo
bash: svn: command not found
sudo apt-get install subversion
just do it and it will solve your problem, i ll add it to the how-to, i though that subversion would be installed by default in breezy, but it is not :(
j_baer
November 29th, 2005, 01:43 PM
I was able to install Thunar via Synaptic by adding the sources noted in the following link.
http://www.os-works.com/view/debian/
By doing so will also upgrade your Xfce installation. I found Thunar very nice but incomplete at this time. Rumor has it the rc will be ready in February and I believe all who try it will love it.
Right now the best Xfce configurartion for me is a mix with Gnome.
Another tip for those who are new to Xfce. if you follow the guide at this thread
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75527
you will get window shadowing and more.
Cheers ...
sapo
November 29th, 2005, 01:47 PM
I was able to install Thunar via Synaptic by adding the sources noted in the following link.
http://www.os-works.com/view/debian/
By doing so will also upgrade your Xfce installation. I found Thunar very nice but incomplete at this time. Rumor has it the rc will be ready in February and I believe all who try it will love it.
Right now the best Xfce configurartion for me is a mix with Gnome.
Another tip for those who are new to Xfce. if you follow the guide at this thread
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75527
you will get window shadowing and more.
Cheers ...
I installed thunar using this debian rep at first too. but that one didnt have anything, the new one from svn is usable, it can copy, move, paste, delete, set applications to open files, etc.
I think you should try the one from svn, its completelly different.
bored2k
November 29th, 2005, 02:44 PM
Has anyone made a deb yet ?
BTW, sapo, your blog made me want to try xfce once AGAIN. Good persuasive writing ;).
I'll try to build a x86 deb once I have this.
bored2k
November 29th, 2005, 02:45 PM
Wow cool... looks a bit like Mac OS Finder (guess they got quite some inspiration from that). Would make me feel right at home, seeing that my main box is OS X ^^ Gonna try it on my Ubuntu lappy ASAP. Thanks!
Yes. They are taking ideas from Finder, Nautilus and some others (they said that).
sapo
November 29th, 2005, 02:46 PM
Has anyone made a deb yet ?
BTW, sapo, your blog made me want to try xfce once AGAIN. Good persuasive writing ;).
I'll try to build a x86 deb once I have this.
omg, you really did read that?
I thought that nobody besides me read that...
btw.. i didnt find a deb for this svn version.. maybe you could make us one :)
lucas
November 29th, 2005, 02:50 PM
A thunar deb would be great. Beacuse I can't be arsed to compile but I love xfce and i would love to try thunar. Maybe even xfce 4.3 svn debs? :)
bored2k
November 29th, 2005, 02:51 PM
omg, you really did read that?"Surprise" ;).
btw.. i didnt find a deb for this svn version.. maybe you could make us one :)I was refering to someone creating their own. I'll try to make one after I have thunar installed.. which comes after installing xubuntu :P.
Logic*
November 29th, 2005, 04:42 PM
Hi, the automake thing worked - I did have to remove the older package, as you said.
My next problem comes here
...
cd ../libexo/
sh autogen.sh
...
I get this
...
checking for gmsgfmt... /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for xgettext... /usr/bin/xgettext
checking for catalogs to be installed... ca de el en_GB es fi fr ja pt_BR
checking for bind_textdomain_codeset... (cached) yes
checking for locales directory... ${prefix}/share/locale
checking for additional xgettext flags... --keyword=Q_
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking for pkg-config >= 0.9.0... 0.19
checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.4.0... 2.8.3
checking GLIB_CFLAGS... -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
checking GLIB_LIBS... -lglib-2.0
checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0... not found
*** The required package gtk+-2.0 was not found on your system.
*** Please install gtk+-2.0 (atleast version 2.4.0) or adjust
*** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
*** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that
*** pkg-config is able to find it.
Do I need to install a different package here, or is it a configuration problem?
Thanks
varunus
November 29th, 2005, 04:47 PM
Get the libgtk2.0-dev package from synaptic to fix this.
Logic*
November 29th, 2005, 05:05 PM
Cool :)
Thankyou very much
ksousa
November 29th, 2005, 06:24 PM
First...Tks to SAPO for the great howto;
Second...Since i ve discovered Xubuntu i only work with him, cause is fast and reliable...and of course beautiful;
Three...Finally i give all my computer to Xubuntu and finish forever with Gates Boy;
Thanks for all the comunity of Ubuntu for this wonderful product
sapo
November 29th, 2005, 06:55 PM
First...Tks to SAPO for the great howto;
Second...Since i ve discovered Xubuntu i only work with him, cause is fast and reliable...and of course beautiful;
Three...Finally i give all my computer to Xubuntu and finish forever with Gates Boy;
Thanks for all the comunity of Ubuntu for this wonderful product
You should thank the guys from #thunar @ irc.freenode.org, they helped me install it so i could me the how-to :)
j_baer
November 29th, 2005, 07:38 PM
Hey Logic*
What theme are you using? I really like your desktop ...
Cheers
bored2k
November 29th, 2005, 07:52 PM
thunar: error while loading shared libraries: libthunar-vfs-1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
:(
sapo
November 29th, 2005, 07:57 PM
thunar: error while loading shared libraries: libthunar-vfs-1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
:(
Did you do a make install?
This lib is compiled with Thunar, how can you not have it O_o
bored2k
November 29th, 2005, 08:01 PM
Did you do a make install?
This lib is compiled with Thunar, how can you not have it O_o
Yes I did :s.
Note: the make is getting done via automake1.9 not automake1.8. Any difference? will now try removing 1.8.
sapo
November 29th, 2005, 08:08 PM
Yes I did :s.
Note: the make is getting done via automake1.9 not automake1.8. Any difference? will now try removing 1.8.
you need to remove the 1.9 not 1.8 O_o
bored2k
November 29th, 2005, 08:09 PM
you need to remove the 1.9 not 1.8 O_o
That's what I meant.
Well, I retried and got the same.
sapo
November 29th, 2005, 08:11 PM
this is kinda weird O_o
I compiled it here, and in my last install without any problems like it, sorry but:
/j #thunar @ irc.freenode.org
Logic*
November 29th, 2005, 08:42 PM
Hey Logic*
What theme are you using? I really like your desktop ...
Cheers
I'm using the Humanitarian theme, found in the attachment in this post
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92395
j_baer
November 29th, 2005, 08:50 PM
Didn't work here ...
The sh autogen.sh script posted the following errors.
/home/j_baer/thunar/xfce4-svn-source/xfce4-dev-tools/missing: Unknown `--run' option
Try `/home/j_baer/thunar/xfce4-svn-source/xfce4-dev-tools/missing --help' for more information
The result is no "make" file.
:(
henriquemaia
November 30th, 2005, 06:59 AM
That's what I meant.
Well, I retried and got the same.
I got the same problem here. I really like thunar (I installed it previously through a .deb). Any Ideas?
Btw, sapo, your blog is really cool. One more reader. Looks there are 3 now.
sapo
November 30th, 2005, 07:27 AM
I got the same problem here. I really like thunar (I installed it previously through a .deb). Any Ideas?
Btw, sapo, your blog is really cool. One more reader. Looks there are 3 now.
regarding the problems, i dont know what can be giving the errors, sorry guys but i cant help you :(
And about the blog, thanx, i ll try to update that more often, but i kinda have a lot to work here, so i dont have too much time to post there :(
But thanx for reading it, post a comment there if possible :)
foxy123
November 30th, 2005, 08:00 AM
thunar: error while loading shared libraries: libthunar-vfs-1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
:(
do you have the latest libexo?
henriquemaia
December 1st, 2005, 04:35 PM
regarding the problems, i dont know what can be giving the errors, sorry guys but i cant help you :(
And about the blog, thanx, i ll try to update that more often, but i kinda have a lot to work here, so i dont have too much time to post there :(
But thanx for reading it, post a comment there if possible :)
Problem solved. Did nothing, just went to bed and today, after reading this thread again, made another try on thunar.
When all else fails, reboot your computer.
Thunar is whole lot cooler now!
bored2k
December 1st, 2005, 04:37 PM
do you have the latest libexo?
Yes. Sapo even sent me his debs.
henriquemaia
December 1st, 2005, 05:51 PM
Yes. Sapo even sent me his debs.
Stupid question, but have you rebooted since your instalation? That did the trick to me.
bored2k
December 1st, 2005, 07:05 PM
Stupid question, but have you rebooted since your instalation? That did the trick to me.
This is ... embarrassing. It works now. This has no explanation.
Wow. This app owns. Buh bye nautilus.
sapo
December 1st, 2005, 07:05 PM
Stupid question, but have you rebooted since your instalation? That did the trick to me.
As far as i know him.. he should have unistalled before rebooting hehe
j_baer
December 1st, 2005, 09:02 PM
Yes. Sapo even sent me his debs.
Ok bored2k or Sapo, are you going to share the debs?
:)
Logic*
December 1st, 2005, 09:26 PM
Glad to hear everyones got it working :D
I have crashes when moving and copying some files, but to me, its intuitiveness makes it a far better choice than rox-filer for general file management.
Would I just repeat the steps of this howto to get an updated version of thunar in future?
jrincon87
December 2nd, 2005, 12:03 AM
Hey. I followed all the steps without getting any errors, but I can't launch Thunar. There is no executable in /usr/bin.
sapo
December 2nd, 2005, 05:37 AM
Hey. I followed all the steps without getting any errors, but I can't launch Thunar. There is no executable in /usr/bin.
/usr/local/bin i guess..
Did you run sudo make install? did it give you errors?
bored2k
December 2nd, 2005, 07:25 AM
Dude... this manager is SO good. Ultra cheers sapo!
mcwtlg
December 2nd, 2005, 11:58 AM
I will start off on a positive note.
Your instructions were good and easy to follow.
Thunar is very quick and usable. I just need to get it to work as if it was logged in as root.
Now negative side. I tried to compile this 5 or 6 times, each time getting a bit further. For whatever reason, I was missing compiler files and added a few at a time until I finally was able to get the darned thing installed. It was very aggrevating mostly because I am newer to linux.
lucas
December 2nd, 2005, 01:04 PM
I was too curious to wait, so i compiled it anyway. thanks for the howto sapo. It compiled and works fine. Does anyone know how to set the icons size, they are quite big for me?
This error loading the library:
thunar: error while loading shared libraries: libthunar-vfs-1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
occurs beacuse the library chache isn't updated. do this with the ldconfig command. After updating the cache it works fine.
j_baer
December 2nd, 2005, 04:10 PM
Second time is the charm!
Thunar is quick and to the point. I also like the bookmark feature. Nice job!
It would be nice to have a one (1) click option and I hope that will be included by the release date.
Thanks for the how-to ...
Cheers
picpak
December 2nd, 2005, 11:42 PM
Thunar crashes every time I open a text file. And then it says:
libxfce4util-CRITICAL **: simple_add_entry: assertion `locale == NULL' failed
aborting...
Aborted
Any ideas?
henriquemaia
December 3rd, 2005, 12:27 AM
Hey. I followed all the steps without getting any errors, but I can't launch Thunar. There is no executable in /usr/bin.
Have you tried
whereis thunar?
mine is located in
/usr/local/bin/thunar
ps: whereis is an actual command. Reading without knowing, I would doubt my sanity...
sapo
December 3rd, 2005, 07:24 AM
I will start off on a positive note.
Your instructions were good and easy to follow.
Thunar is very quick and usable. I just need to get it to work as if it was logged in as root.
Now negative side. I tried to compile this 5 or 6 times, each time getting a bit further. For whatever reason, I was missing compiler files and added a few at a time until I finally was able to get the darned thing installed. It was very aggrevating mostly because I am newer to linux.
Thanx, and sorry.
I didnt added the build-essential package to the apt-get command to install the dependencies, it is one of the first thing that i install on my ubuntu, but i think that isnt everyone that installs it.. so i added it in the howto now.
trevorv
December 3rd, 2005, 07:42 AM
Just to say thanks a lot for this guide, it helped a lot! Rox was the one thing (well, that and the search dialogue) that made me shudder about Xubuntu. Now it's almost perfect!
sapo
December 3rd, 2005, 09:41 AM
Just to say thanks a lot for this guide, it helped a lot! Rox was the one thing (well, that and the search dialogue) that made me shudder about Xubuntu. Now it's almost perfect!
If you have gnome installed, just use the gnome-search-tool, just type it on a terminal or create a launcher for it.
And why not beagle?
j_baer
December 3rd, 2005, 11:00 AM
sapo,
What is the syntax for the gnome search tool? And wouldn't be nice to have the Beagle damon load at boot ...
Cheers
sapo
December 3rd, 2005, 11:28 AM
sapo,
What is the syntax for the gnome search tool? And wouldn't be nice to have the Beagle damon load at boot ...
Cheers
The command is gnome-search-tool, just type it on a terminal, or in the Run dialog.
-DarkMind-
December 5th, 2005, 02:32 PM
excelent file manager!
thanks for the how-to
i upload the debs ;)
http://rapidshare.de/files/8672254/xfce4-dev-tools_1.0-1_i386.deb.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/8672317/libexo_1.0-1_i386.deb.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/8672338/thunar_1.0-1_i386.deb.html
:)
compiled: 12/5/2005 :)
-DarkMind-
December 5th, 2005, 02:45 PM
i have a problem :(
when i tried to open a file without association, thunar died
or when i click in "Open With" exit and says:
libxfce4util-CRITICAL **: simple_add_entry: assertion `locale == NULL' failed
aborting...
Abortado
:(
mike4ubuntu
December 5th, 2005, 04:01 PM
I got as far as:
sudo apt-get install gtk-doc-tools libxml-parser-perl automake1.8 libxfce4util-dev subversion build-essential
sudo apt-get remove automake1.4
sudo apt-get install automake1.8
svn co http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/libexo/trunk xfce4-svn-source/libexo
svn co http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/thunar/trunk xfce4-svn-source/thunar
svn co http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/xfce4-dev-tools/trunk xfce4-svn-source/xfce4-dev-tools
cd xfce4-svn-source/xfce4-dev-tools
sh autogen.sh
make
sudo make install
cd ../libexo/
sh autogen.sh
make
sudo make install
cd ../thunar/
sh autogen.sh
----
but then failed with:
mike@lic4:~/thunar/xfce4-svn-source/thunar$ sh autogen.sh
Preparing package directory /home/mike/thunar/xfce4-svn-source/thunar...
Creating /home/mike/thunar/xfce4-svn-source/thunar/aclocal.m4...
Running glib-gettextize --force --copy...
Copying file mkinstalldirs
Copying file po/Makefile.in.in
Please add the files
codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4
progtest.m4
from the /usr/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory
or directly to your aclocal.m4 file.
You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/.
Running intltoolize --automake --copy --force
Patching file 'po/Makefile.in.in'
Running libtoolize --force --copy...
You should add the contents of `/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4' to `aclocal.m4'.
Running gtkdocize --copy...
...
checking for exo-0.3 >= 0.3.1.1... not found
*** The required package exo-0.3 was not found on your system.
*** Please install exo-0.3 (atleast version 0.3.1.1) or adjust
*** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
*** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that
*** pkg-config is able to find it.
mike4ubuntu
December 5th, 2005, 04:54 PM
It actually seems to be easier to update
/etc/apt/sources.list
with
deb http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main
deb-src http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main
then
$ sudo apt-get install thunar
-DarkMind-
December 5th, 2005, 06:19 PM
It actually seems to be easier to update
/etc/apt/sources.list
with
deb http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main
deb-src http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main
then
$ sudo apt-get install thunar
the repo have the svn version??
picpak
December 5th, 2005, 07:18 PM
i have a problem :(
when i tried to open a file without association, thunar died
or when i click in "Open With" exit and says:
libxfce4util-CRITICAL **: simple_add_entry: assertion `locale == NULL' failed
aborting...
Abortado
:(
Same here. Any ideas?
carlosqueso
December 8th, 2005, 02:02 AM
I got as far as:
sudo apt-get install gtk-doc-tools libxml-parser-perl automake1.8 libxfce4util-dev subversion build-essential
sudo apt-get remove automake1.4
sudo apt-get install automake1.8
svn co http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/libexo/trunk xfce4-svn-source/libexo
svn co http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/thunar/trunk xfce4-svn-source/thunar
svn co http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/xfce4-dev-tools/trunk xfce4-svn-source/xfce4-dev-tools
cd xfce4-svn-source/xfce4-dev-tools
sh autogen.sh
make
sudo make install
cd ../libexo/
sh autogen.sh
make
sudo make install
cd ../thunar/
sh autogen.sh
----
but then failed with:
mike@lic4:~/thunar/xfce4-svn-source/thunar$ sh autogen.sh
Preparing package directory /home/mike/thunar/xfce4-svn-source/thunar...
Creating /home/mike/thunar/xfce4-svn-source/thunar/aclocal.m4...
Running glib-gettextize --force --copy...
Copying file mkinstalldirs
Copying file po/Makefile.in.in
Please add the files
codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4
progtest.m4
from the /usr/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory
or directly to your aclocal.m4 file.
You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/.
Running intltoolize --automake --copy --force
Patching file 'po/Makefile.in.in'
Running libtoolize --force --copy...
You should add the contents of `/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4' to `aclocal.m4'.
Running gtkdocize --copy...
...
checking for exo-0.3 >= 0.3.1.1... not found
*** The required package exo-0.3 was not found on your system.
*** Please install exo-0.3 (atleast version 0.3.1.1) or adjust
*** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
*** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that
*** pkg-config is able to find it.
I had the same problem....it means you had a problem with the stuff in the libexo folder....did you forget to sudo make install like I did perhaps?
Anyway...I'm loving the thunar file manager...thanks folks
sapo
December 8th, 2005, 05:12 AM
the repo have the svn version??
That repo have a very outdate version.. i dont recommend that =x
Cromie
December 8th, 2005, 09:14 PM
Well got one major problem for a newbie, when i start the xfce now, nothing works as far as, the mouse button.. Like right click on the screen and no menu choice, plus i cant change the background image anymore.
I was playing around the Theme section when all this happen..
So i really dont know how to trace the problem down can anyone help with hunting the problem down..
Its all a learning curve for me...](*,)
sapo
December 8th, 2005, 09:19 PM
Well got one major problem for a newbie, when i start the xfce now, nothing works as far as, the mouse button.. Like right click on the screen and no menu choice, plus i cant change the background image anymore.
I was playing around the Theme section when all this happen..
So i really dont know how to trace the problem down can anyone help with hunting the problem down..
Its all a learning curve for me...](*,)
just press Alt + F2 and type: xfdesktop
Cromie
December 8th, 2005, 09:49 PM
Thanks Sapo, That worked.
Can i asked what was that command ?
Plus what would you recommend for getting this learing curve up the hill, so i can at least see the top of the hill.
Linux really makes me feel like a Homer](*,)
Jeconais
December 9th, 2005, 04:39 AM
I found that this:
http://www.loculus.nl/xfce/documentation/docs-4.2/
really helped me understand what was going on...
J.
sapo
December 9th, 2005, 05:11 AM
Thanks Sapo, That worked.
Can i asked what was that command ?
Plus what would you recommend for getting this learing curve up the hill, so i can at least see the top of the hill.
Linux really makes me feel like a Homer](*,)
That is an app that controls your desktop stuff, you can read more about it here:
http://www.loculus.nl/xfce/documentation/docs-4.2/xfdesktop.html
In gnome what do the same thing is nautilus, and in windows is the explorer..
So basically, it draws your wallpaper, and makes your desktop interactive..
mustang
December 9th, 2005, 03:48 PM
i have a problem :(
when i tried to open a file without association, thunar died
or when i click in "Open With" exit and says:
libxfce4util-CRITICAL **: simple_add_entry: assertion `locale == NULL' failed
aborting...
Abortado
:(
I'm also having this problem.
psychicdragon
December 11th, 2005, 07:57 AM
I'm also having this problem.
I think Everyone is going to have this problem. Unless you have the svn version of Xfce installed.
kaamos
December 11th, 2005, 05:55 PM
I think Everyone is going to have this problem. Unless you have the svn version of Xfce installed.
Nope, it the problem is there even with the svn version. :(
Otherwise.. whoa the never xfce from svn is cool!
psychicdragon
December 11th, 2005, 07:39 PM
So, you have the svn version of libxfce4util on your system?
The new panel in Xfce svn is looking really nice. I was running Xfce from svn on my Hoary system, but I found the panel to be a little crashy so I went back to the stable Xfce packages when I installed Breezy. I can't wait for Xfce 4.4 to drop, it's going to be amazing :KS
Some good news: Looks like someone is making some Debian packages of Thunar, exo etc. Hopefully we'll be able to use them without any problems. Link (http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2005-December/001546.html)
sapo
December 11th, 2005, 07:54 PM
So, you have the svn version of libxfce4util on your system?
The new panel in Xfce svn is looking really nice. I was running Xfce from svn on my Hoary system, but I found the panel to be a little crashy so I went back to the stable Xfce packages when I installed Breezy. I can't wait for Xfce 4.4 to drop, it's going to be amazing :KS
Some good news: Looks like someone is making some Debian packages of Thunar, exo etc. Hopefully we'll be able to use them without any problems. Link (http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2005-December/001546.html)
I ve made some debian packages too, someone could test them please?
libexo_0.3svn-1_i386.deb (http://xgn.com.br/fabio/ubuntu/debs/libexo_0.3svn-1_i386.deb)
xfce4-dev-tools_4.3.1svn-1_i386.deb (http://xgn.com.br/fabio/ubuntu/debs/xfce4-dev-tools_4.3.1svn-1_i386.deb)
thunar_0.1.4svn-1_i386.deb (http://xgn.com.br/fabio/ubuntu/debs/thunar_0.1.4svn-1_i386.deb)
j_baer
December 11th, 2005, 10:16 PM
I ve made some debian packages too, someone could test them please?
libexo_0.3svn-1_i386.deb (http://xgn.com.br/fabio/ubuntu/debs/libexo_0.3svn-1_i386.deb)
xfce4-dev-tools_4.3.1svn-1_i386.deb (http://xgn.com.br/fabio/ubuntu/debs/xfce4-dev-tools_4.3.1svn-1_i386.deb)
thunar_0.1.4svn-1_i386.deb (http://xgn.com.br/fabio/ubuntu/debs/thunar_0.1.4svn-1_i386.deb)
sapo,
Installed your debs and everything is Ok ...
Thanks
psychicdragon
December 12th, 2005, 07:00 AM
Nice work with the .deb's Sapo :cool:
They seem to be working fine.
foxy123
December 12th, 2005, 07:15 AM
Nope, it the problem is there even with the svn version. :(
Otherwise.. whoa the never xfce from svn is cool!
it's strange, because I am running xfce-svn as well and it works fine...
suoko
December 12th, 2005, 08:29 AM
Hi,
does the current version of thunar support desktop icons or is it still on the "todo list"?
lucas
December 12th, 2005, 01:48 PM
No it doesnt (mine is a week old, maybe it has changed). however xfwm 4.3 places minimized windows on the desktop. :)
foxy123
December 12th, 2005, 01:55 PM
Hi,
does the current version of thunar support desktop icons or is it still on the "todo list"?
xffm from svn supports this feature...
kaamos
December 12th, 2005, 02:38 PM
it's strange, because I am running xfce-svn as well and it works fine...
Thanks for letting me know!
Found out that I had an older version of libexo installed in addition to the new one. Removed that, recompiled thunar, works like a charm. :)
Does editing the shortcut keys sometimes crash xfce-mcs-manager on your system? This causes everything to start looking like gtk1-apps.. Easily solved by restarting mcs, but I was wondering if I'm the only one with this issue.
foxy123
December 12th, 2005, 02:42 PM
Thanks for letting me know!
Found out that I had an older version of libexo installed in addition to the new one. Removed that, recompiled thunar, works like a charm. :)
Does the editing the shortcut keys sometimes crash xfce-mcs-manager on your system? This causes to everything to start looking like gtk1-apps.. Easily solved by restarting mcs, but I was wondering if I'm the only one with this issue.
frankly speaking I do not use shortcuts... however, it looks like some changes have been recently made in the shortcuts plugin. I have not be able to compile xfce-mcs-plugins since this morning...
Turambar
December 13th, 2005, 01:35 PM
Thunar is great, thanks for the deb-file.
Do you people know if it is possible to make the icons in Thunar smaller? The file and folder icons are huge, and I have to scroll a lot. I also wonder if it is possible yet to disable thumbnailing (and text preview) and to change the side panel to a tree view like in Nautilus?
jeffreyvergara.NET
December 24th, 2005, 01:12 AM
Hello, I have a problem starting Thunar.
$ thunar
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
aborting...
Aborted
chaumurky
December 26th, 2005, 09:40 PM
I have this runnung but how do I set default file associations for thunar - and/or xfce?
Onos
January 8th, 2006, 02:24 AM
I encountered this error when following the HOWTO:
me@computer:~$ cd xfce4-svn-source/xfce4-dev-tools
me@computer:~/xfce4-svn-source/xfce4-dev-tools$ sh autogen.sh
automake: configure.in: installing `./install-sh'
automake: configure.in: installing `./mkinstalldirs'
automake: configure.in: installing `./missing'
automake: configure.in: installing `./config.guess'
automake: configure.in: installing `./config.sub'
Makefile.am:13: require version 1.8, but have 1.4-p6
me@computer:~/xfce4-svn-source/xfce4-dev-tools$ make
bash: make: command not found
And when I tried to apt-get automake:
me@computer:~$ sudo apt-get install automake
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Note, selecting automake1.4 instead of automake
automake1.4 is already the newest version.
Silly newbie question # 1 - is there a way to get automake 1.8+ ?
My build is (x)ubuntu Breezy Badger 5.10 with Xfce 4.2, no gnome or KDE is my computer is quite old and likes a light GUI.
Silly newbie question #2 - Where / How do I get xfce-svn?
Gray.
January 8th, 2006, 06:15 AM
Thanks for this HOW-TO! It's so much better than rox or xffm. And Onos, go into Synaptic and Mark automake1.8 for installation and uninstall automake1.4. and make is in there as well.
kaamos
January 8th, 2006, 06:18 AM
Silly newbie question # 1 - is there a way to get automake 1.8+?
sudo apt-get install automake1.8
Onos
January 8th, 2006, 05:50 PM
I got automake installed, but now some other wierdness I have no idea about (my apologies, I am quite new to Linux, and am a tad overwhelmed by the learning curve at the moment) :p
I ran these lines per the wiki:
cd xfce4-svn-source/xfce4-dev-tools
sh autogen.sh
make
sudo make install
That went off without a hitch... but when I tried to do the part for libexo,
cd ../libexo/
sh autogen.sh
...
I got this:
me@computer:~/xfce4-svn-source/libexo$ sh autogen.sh
Preparing package directory /home/me/xfce4-svn-source/libexo...
Running glib-gettextize --force --copy...
Copying file mkinstalldirs
Copying file po/Makefile.in.in
Please add the files
codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4
progtest.m4
from the /usr/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory
or directly to your aclocal.m4 file.
You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/.
Patching file 'po/Makefile.in.in'
Running libtoolize --force --copy...
Running gtkdocize --copy...
Running aclocal-1.9 -I /usr/local/share/xfce4/dev-tools/m4macros -I /usr/local/share/xfce4/dev-tools/m4macros...
Running autoheader...
Running automake-1.9 --add-missing --copy --gnu...
Running autoconf...
Running /home/me/xfce4-svn-source/libexo/configure --enable-maintainer-mode ...
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... mawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... yes
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for egrep... grep -E
checking for AIX... no
checking for library containing strerror... none required
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking minix/config.h usability... no
checking minix/config.h presence... no
checking for minix/config.h... no
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... (cached) none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /bin/sed
checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all
checking dlfcn.h usability... yes
checking dlfcn.h presence... yes
checking for dlfcn.h... yes
checking for g++... no
checking for c++... no
checking for gpp... no
checking for aCC... no
checking for CC... no
checking for cxx... no
checking for cc++... no
checking for cl... no
checking for FCC... no
checking for KCC... no
checking for RCC... no
checking for xlC_r... no
checking for xlC... no
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
checking whether g++ accepts -g... no
checking dependency style of g++... none
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
See `config.log' for more details.
I have a feeling that this is not a goood thing; and I am not sure how to go about moving those files (highlighted in orange) - could that break other things if I did that?
I fear for my ability to pass a sanity check at this point... :p
kaamos
January 8th, 2006, 05:58 PM
Try installing the package "g++". That should install the GNU C++ compiler.
Onos
January 8th, 2006, 06:44 PM
Excellent.... installing g++ did the trick.
Thanks very much!
Onos
January 8th, 2006, 07:52 PM
I got thunar up and running, but I get this:
http://www.kweh.net/stuff/thunar_grab.png
Did I miss anything in the wiki, or is there another step I need to take to "pretty it up" (such as making folders have folder icons, text files have a text file icon, etc.) ?
kaamos
January 8th, 2006, 08:05 PM
Try changing the icon theme. Maybe the one you have does not go by the standards that thunar expects it to.. Other that that, I have no suggestions. :(
Onos
January 8th, 2006, 10:16 PM
New twist... I tried switching around different icon themes and desktop themes hoping that something would "trigger" the correct MIME-type icons in thunar, but all to no avail.
But on the upshot, at least my wife can see the full-blown thunar in all its glory, as it installed nicely for her to use on her profile:
http://www.kweh.net/stuff/mari_thunar.png
As for me, I am still totally baffled as to how to fix it on my profile... and I am not so sure that I want to try hacking Gtk+ code just yet. There does not seem to be any configuration files for this. :???:
3x3cvt0r
January 9th, 2006, 01:59 AM
Hi! I tried using Sapo's deb files and I am getting the following errors when I try to run thunar:
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
aborting...
Aborted
Can anyone help?
psychicdragon
January 22nd, 2006, 05:24 PM
There's a new (alpha) release of Thunar out now.
http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2006-January/001647.html
psychicdragon
January 22nd, 2006, 05:24 PM
Whoops :rolleyes:
alpopel
January 22nd, 2006, 06:20 PM
best filemanager ever!! thanks for the howto!
Vinze
January 24th, 2006, 04:20 AM
W007! Lazy I am indeed! Thanks for the .debs, they worked perfectly, and Thunar rocks!
spockrock
February 7th, 2006, 04:22 AM
I followed the instructions and this works perfectly, but how did you guys get the trash, a seperator line , or increase the icon size in the left panel??
Vinze
February 8th, 2006, 04:10 AM
I followed the instructions and this works perfectly, but how did you guys get the trash, a seperator line , or increase the icon size in the left panel??
I can't do that, I know it should be possible but I think only with the svn version.
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