Thoughts on Solaris

[BGFG]

What do you think ? threat or welcome cousin ?
I tried the live cd and it was blazing fast. Desktop effects and all. I think with 12-18 months more development i could use it.
Fast kernel, zfs, gnome desktop. I could see myself dual booting Ubuntu and solaris on a production machine.

Will this be moved to other OS talk ? or can we chat in the cafe ?

[LaRoza]

Usually, talk on other Other OS's are moved to Other OS Talk ;)

OpenSolaris is a welcome friend of Linux. It is a nice OS, and I think it has a future. It has to play a bit of catch up though, for me to use it.

[OutOfReach]

As LaRoza said, I think that OpenSolaris is a friend of Linux.
It's really nice, I ordered a CD from them and I tried it out, the installer is professional grade I loved it. But due to a known problem I couldn't install it on my computer but I did manage to install it in a VM.
In short: OpenSolaris has great potential.

[Kimm]

OpenSolaris could well be the future.
Who knows... perhaps we will see a joint project, Linux x OpenSolaris. That'd be great.

I hear Sun tried desperately to get Linus Torvalds to join them and work on Solaris. No idea if they succeded though.

[BGFG]

Usually, talk on other Other OS's are moved to Other OS Talk ;)

OpenSolaris is a welcome friend of Linux. It is a nice OS, and I think it has a future. It has to play a bit of catch up though, for me to use it.
I know :lolflag: but the cafe is so much more lively...I won't mind If the op's move it though....:)

But i agree, solaris seems a bit rough around the edges, and it definitely needs more packages, but the speed of the kernel and that filesystem coupled with sun's engineering prowess is quite enticing....

[BGFG]

OpenSolaris could well be the future.
Who knows... perhaps we will see a joint project, Linux x OpenSolaris. That'd be great.

I hear Sun tried desperately to get Linus Torvalds to join them and work on Solaris. No idea if they succeded though.

Wow. think i'll pop over there now and see what's going on...

[snova]

My sole experience with Solaris of any kind was a shell account on my cousins server. It bugged me, to say the least. But I got the impression that he wasn't exactly a trained sysadmin (junk all over the place), so I probably didn't see Solaris at its best.

I'll definitely get a CD and try it in a VM now, though.

[Le-Froid]

I tried to run it on my computer (Dell Dimension E520), but it didn't support any of my hardware and wouldn't boot to a GUI. I'll probably check out their next release though and see if it works.

[Lord Xeb]

OS is a friend. It is a great database OS and has plenty of room for improvement. Given time, I think it could rival Linux

[BGFG]

Was that 2008.05 ? Ran pretty normally for me, dell inspiron 531. Not bothering to install yet though. will wait for a release or two down the road.

[motang]

What do you think ? threat or welcome cousin ?
I tried the live cd and it was blazing fast. Desktop effects and all. I think with 12-18 months more development i could use it.
Fast kernel, zfs, gnome desktop. I could see myself dual booting Ubuntu and solaris on a production machine.

Will this be moved to other OS talk ? or can we chat in the cafe ?
OpenSolaris is awesome, I got interested in it because of who was put in chart (Ian Murdok) the father of Debian! He seems to get how to make things work with installing software plainlessly. So I gave the first relase a try on VirtualBox and was impressed, impressed so much I am eagerly awaiting the second release (which will replace my Win XP Pro partition on my laptop!). So I will be dual booting with Ubuntu 8.10 an OpenSolaris 2008.11! :)

Here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5910900226352217932) is Ian speaking about OpenSolaris.

[Canis familiaris]

I am waiting eagerly for OpenSolaris 2008.11. It is very promising.

[Sorivenul]

There are many posts on OpenSolaris around here. Feel free to read them as well for more posts on people's opinions. I believe OpenSolaris is a friend to Linux, and that both worlds can stand to learn from each other.

Personally, I have no major problems with OpenSolaris 2008.05, except the package management system, and a few other issues that were minor nuisances. I'm hoping that 2008.11 is another step forward.

[mips]

My sole experience with Solaris of any kind was a shell account on my cousins server. It bugged me, to say the least. But I got the impression that he wasn't exactly a trained sysadmin (junk all over the place), so I probably didn't see Solaris at its best.


Now why would you expect anything more than a shell account on a server? Were you expecting a GUI?

[galileon]

the speed of the kernel and that filesystem coupled with sun's engineering prowess is quite enticing....

nothing like JAVA then? :lolflag:

[snova]

Now why would you expect anything more than a shell account on a server? Were you expecting a GUI?

No. It had X on it, but I don't know how to make that work over SSH. But all the programs were different- I compiled GNU coreutils because ls didn't understand --color. :)

The point was that there were files all over the place, even in /. A clean installation would probably be much... cleaner.

[BGFG]

nothing like JAVA then? :lolflag:

:) I'm no programmer, but from what i've read, java could have ruled the world if the code had been released earlier...
But you're right, with apps that use java 'limewire etc' i usually see a significant upward spike in resource use on my machine.

I think i'll run 2008.11 in a VM. Should i stick with SunVB or try Xen ?

[smartboyathome]

BGFG: If I were you I would go KQEMU, since Xen is not working starting with Ubuntu Intrepid and Virtualbox doesn't have the optimizations that KVM provides. I find Qemulator to be an excellent GUI for QEMU which is comparable to Virtualbox's GUI.

[Mason Whitaker]

I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but I didn't have any bad experiences with it.

[Thelasko]

First of all, I assume we are talking about OpenSolaris (http://www.opensolaris.com/) and not it's Big Brother. (http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/10/index.jsp)

I ran it in VirtualBox once. I found it a bit bloated, but I run mostly lightweight distros, so my opinion is skewed. If I had an extra machine with enough power, I would run it.

If I was going to run it in a virtual machine, I would run it in VirtualBox. Since Sun purchased VirtualBox they have been working on expanding compatibility with Solaris. (http://jamesselvakumar.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/stunning-opensolaris-running-on-virtualbox/)

[Nxion]

I have used OpenSolaris and Solaris. I think it is a wonderful operation system. takes a bit to get acclimated but it definitely has some opportunity. The one thing I found to be amazing was this (http://www.sun.com/products/sunmd/s20/). That blew my mind!