[SOLVED] why do we must use consoles all the time?

[arikshtiv]

why do I have to open up a console to install flash or install almost any other thing.
why can't you have an executable file like the exe in windows?
if other packages are needed it will install them automatically,
if it needs admin premissions it will sak you if you allow it,
and other features that will make ubuntu easier for the ubuntu normal user.

once I tried re-installing ubuntu and not using the console, and I found out it's impossible!

can't you see that people are afraid of the console?

[snova]

You don't have to use the terminal most of the time. But it's a lot easier to give people instructions in the form of commands, since they're so much shorter.

[rokytnji]

I have used Synaptic and Add/Remove Programs besides Terminal to install software and apps.

[arikshtiv]

I don't mean only that also, why can't a user download flash and just double click it to install it?
it's better than getting there using the command cd!

right now I'm using windows because wubi won't work but I do use ubuntu in virtualbox, and to install virtual guest additions (allows me to interact more with the OS like clipboard and mouse and bunch of stuff) I have to open up terminal and find the directory and if there are spaces I need to use \ and it's really frustrating.

[sdowney717]

you can right click the installer and tell it to run in terminal.
you need to right click goto properties and make them executable. Downloaded binaries have the executable flag set off.
Also your best off sticking with synaptic since all those apps are known to work.

[melojo]

why do I have to open up a console to install flash or install almost any other thing.
why can't you have an executable file like the exe in windows?
if other packages are needed it will install them automatically,
if it needs admin premissions it will sak you if you allow it,
and other features that will make ubuntu easier for the ubuntu normal user.

can't you see that people are afraid of the console?

At one time all operating systems were console based even microsoft before windows. Linux is not Windows and vise versa!!! Linux has come a long way since I first tried using it about 12 years ago or so. It's getting easier for the average computer user who doesn't like the console but if you get used to it you will find it faster and easier than pointing and clicking. Stick with it and keep plugging away the more you learn the easier it gets.

[aysiu]

You don't need the console to install Flash:
http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash

And even if you wanted to go to the Adobe website and download an installer, you can select the Ubuntu 8.04+ version, download it, and double-click it to install.

I don't understand where you're getting this idea you need the console to install Flash.

[cardinals_fan]

I don't mean only that also, why can't a user download flash and just double click it to install it?
it's better than getting there using the command cd!

In Ubuntu, you can... http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash

[Paqman]

why do I have to open up a console to install flash or install almost any other thing.

You don't. I rarely use the terminal. It's always an option, but there are very few tasks that you have to use it for.

You can install flashplugin-nonfree from Add/Remove or Synaptic. No terminal-bashing required.


why can't you have an executable file like the exe in windows?
if other packages are needed it will install them automatically,
if it needs admin premissions it will sak you if you allow it,
and other features that will make ubuntu easier for the ubuntu normal user.

That's exactly what the package manager does.


once I tried re-installing ubuntu and not using the console, and I found out it's impossible!

Er, not it isn't. Are you just trolling?

[arikshtiv]

I do not intend to compare windows and linux.
about the flash thing, it sometimes tells me I have to install falsh manually.
and if the executable wants me to execute it as admin?
and what about package files who need me to install some other package to get them working? so I just need to search for every package that it needs and then install each of them? why can't I just click and ask for it to install them all automatically?

[cardinals_fan]

and what about package files who need me to install some other package to get them working? so I just need to search for every package that it needs and then install each of them? why can't I just click and ask for it to install them all automatically?
They automatically install all dependencies.

[namegame]

Last time I checked apt-get handles all the dependancies.

[arikshtiv]

They automatically install all dependencies.

not always.

I'm sorry, but I didn't see the options you stated, the last version I used is 7.04, maybe something has changed.

[Paqman]

and what about package files who need me to install some other package to get them working? so I just need to search for every package that it needs and then install each of them?
why can't I just click and ask for it to install them all automatically?

If you're installing software from the repos, the package manager will find and install all the dependencies for you. That's what it's for.

If you're trying to install weird stuff that's not in the repos, then you you might be unlucky enough to have the problem you described. But with over 20,000 packages in the Ubuntu repos, it shouldn't be something you would normally have to deal with.

[cardinals_fan]

I'm sorry, but I didn't see the options you stated, the last version I used is 7.04, maybe something has changed.
Yes, things have certainly changed in the past 18 months.

[Paqman]

not always.

I'm sorry, but I didn't see the options you stated, the last version I used is 7.04, maybe something has changed.

If you're installing from the repos or a .deb, yes always. Including 7.04 and all earlier versions, too.

The only time you'll have the kind of problem you're describing is if you're trying to install from outside the repos. If you use the repos, everything will work like magic.

[arikshtiv]

you convinced me I will now download ubuntu and will try it again.