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chris4585
October 17th, 2008, 05:06 AM
Attention please
What do you think about this?
http://boxbuntu.com/ (http://boxbuntu.com)
I'd like feed back, comments, suggestions, criticism, and a community.
Please read the front page to understand what I'm doing.
Update: I figure the thumbnail will get the attention of some people
Soldierboy
October 17th, 2008, 06:44 AM
Couple things:
Screenshots on the page please.
What makes Plusone stand out from the crowd? If I downloaded and installed Openbox WM on my machine, how would it be different than Plusone Linux?
chris4585
October 17th, 2008, 06:58 AM
Couple things:
Screenshots on the page please.
What makes Plusone stand out from the crowd? If I downloaded and installed Openbox WM on my machine, how would it be different than Plusone Linux?
The base is a toy in a way, the rest has yet to come..
The only real thing that makes +1 stand out right now is the fact its using the inxtaller script to install on light hardware. Besides the fact that there is only one other Openbox distro based off of ubuntu, and we both have our different ideas of how openbox should be configured. Which gives the users a choice.
But thats only right now. +1 has not reached the next step yet. Thats when you should really look for it to take off. Right now its just a base, the light edition will have the light software loaded on the LiveCD to install. +1 will also configure openbox for you in the light edition and everything after that. +1 is designed to be either a learning experience or a easy one for the user.
If you for example just download and install openbox you'd have to learn openbox. The base offers the learning experience too, and takes away some stress on setting everything up from command line this will give light hardware a light OS at the same time.
The easy part will come along with the light edition, everything will be configured so the user can just use his hardware.
I hope this clears some things up
http://boxbuntu.com/images/Screenshots/
zmjjmz
October 17th, 2008, 04:09 PM
http://boxbuntu.com/images/Screenshots/installplus/
Just so you know, you should be using significant digits for that (i.e., instead of just 1, 2, 3, ..., 14, 15, 16 use 01, 02, 03, ... 14, 15, 16).
This way they're presented in the correct order.
Anyways, I think getting installplus with some easy documentation regarding changing it would help people who want to install Linux on older computers.
chris4585
October 17th, 2008, 04:29 PM
Just so you know, you should be using significant digits for that (i.e., instead of just 1, 2, 3, ..., 14, 15, 16 use 01, 02, 03, ... 14, 15, 16).
This way they're presented in the correct order.
Anyways, I think getting installplus with some easy documentation regarding changing it would help people who want to install Linux on older computers.
Yes I'm slowly working on getting documents up, especially on the installplus script. I tried to turn the inxtaller into a install script that is easy as pie to change for another project (e.g. icebuntu).
I'll have documents up about the installplus script, and the LiveCD script (working on perfecting it) soon.. the LiveCD scripts I've made are not released yet.
On another note, I've found a way to work on two LiveCDs at once (don't know why I never tried this before). This is better because before I worked on one LiveCD at a time, stopping at certain steps to release the LiveCD then add onto that LiveCD to work on the next release, there was not a reasonable way to go back and fix a bug in a previous release. This will allow me now to do so.
Thank you for the suggestion on the installplus screenshot file names
correcting...
chris4585
October 17th, 2008, 04:52 PM
btw.. I am looking for some artwork.. what I have is a bit plain and on the go
This is what I'm planning on the light edition of +1
Graphical
scrot
feh
gpaint
internet
irssi
kazehakase
sylpheed
sound / video
audacious
alsamixer
gxine
desktop
nitrogen
conky
fbpanel
gtk-chtheme
rox-filer
Office
gnumeric
abiword
epdfview
system
htop
jockey-gtk
gparted
utilities
grun
qalculate
obmenu
obconf
xpad
leafpad
This is a rough list, what am I forgetting? suggestions for replacements are welcome
cardinals_fan
October 17th, 2008, 05:42 PM
Add notecase to that list. Also, LostIRC is an excellent and lightweight graphical IRC client.
chris4585
October 17th, 2008, 06:19 PM
Add notecase to that list. Also, LostIRC is an excellent and lightweight graphical IRC client.
what makes notecase better than zim, or is that just preference? I've tried lostirc before (If its what I think it is) It was great, except I think I had a few unexpected crashes from it.. don't think I tried the lostirc in the hardy repo though, I'll give it a shot
cardinals_fan
October 17th, 2008, 06:24 PM
what makes notecase better than zim, or is that just preference? I've tried lostirc before (If its what I think it is) It was great, except I think I had a few unexpected crashes from it.. don't think I tried the lostirc in the hardy repo though, I'll give it a shot
Mostly just preference, but notecase is a bit more minimal, and it is less wiki-like.
LostIRC is a favorite of mine - it does what I want, and nothing else.
chris4585
October 17th, 2008, 06:25 PM
Mostly just preference, but notecase is a bit more minimal, and it is less wiki-like.
LostIRC is a favorite of mine - it does what I want, and nothing else.
I'll take your word for notecase. lostirc will probably be in the installed list if I test it and it works without sudden crashes
chris4585
October 18th, 2008, 03:59 AM
I have presents!
I didn't know clearlooks could look this good...
http://boxbuntu.com/images/Screenshots/Plusone-Light/
The Light edition is nearly finished
Soldierboy
October 18th, 2008, 06:41 AM
I have presents!
I didn't know clearlooks could look this good...
http://boxbuntu.com/images/Screenshots/Plusone-Light/
The Light edition is nearly finished
Looks nice. I am a shallow Linux user, the eye candy does it for me every time. I know I'm not the only one (judging by how popular the compiz videos are on youtube). :)
jedi453
October 18th, 2008, 07:57 AM
I have presents!
I didn't know clearlooks could look this good...
http://boxbuntu.com/images/Screenshots/Plusone-Light/
The Light edition is nearly finished
Wow, It looks pretty good! The only thing I didn't see in the screenshots was network-manager-gnome (nm-applet) running in the taskbar. Is there any chance of adding it or some other program that lets you choose your wireless network?
Edit: Now that I think about it, You might be able to not have nm-applet start on start-up as it might take up more ram.
chris4585
October 18th, 2008, 03:14 PM
Wow, It looks pretty good! The only thing I didn't see in the screenshots was network-manager-gnome (nm-applet) running in the taskbar. Is there any chance of adding it or some other program that lets you choose your wireless network?
Edit: Now that I think about it, You might be able to not have nm-applet start on start-up as it might take up more ram.
hey jedi, I did not have the nm-applet on startup because of the more ram, instead, I have a option in the Internet menu for "Network Manager Applet" I figured this is the most appropriate for the "light" because not everyone will need it on autostart, but its easy to add to autostart of course. And the shortcut win+f to restart the fbpanels wouldn't have nm-applet start if it was already running. This will be fixed in the standard edition.
The standard edition will have the nm-applet on autostart.
Thanks for the comments on the theme, I didn't think It would look that good..
Looks nice. I am a shallow Linux user, the eye candy does it for me every time. I know I'm not the only one (judging by how popular the compiz videos are on youtube). :)
Its not just eye candy, but its a bonus :)
sertse
October 18th, 2008, 08:31 PM
downloading now.
Might edit later with my impressions. Always wanted a good base from whuch to choose what apps I want, without needing to go full minimal install.
chris4585
October 18th, 2008, 08:56 PM
downloading now.
Might edit later with my impressions. Always wanted a good base from whuch to choose what apps I want, without needing to go full minimal install.
I'm glad someone will use the Base.
There will be a Base 8.04.1.3 update with a edited version of the installer if anyone is concerned. If anyone plans on using the alternative installplus installer I'd wait for 8.04.1.3.
On another note, on the Light edition I seem to be getting crashes with Kazehakase when going to preferences, anyone else get this or know how to fix it?
cardinals_fan
October 18th, 2008, 09:35 PM
On another note, on the Light edition I seem to be getting crashes with Kazehakase when going to preferences, anyone else get this or know how to fix it?
Ubuntu Hardy has a broken Kazehakase package (gee, thanks Ubuntu!).
smartboyathome
October 18th, 2008, 09:47 PM
Ubuntu Hardy has a broken Kazehakase package (gee, thanks Ubuntu!).
Kazehakase works fine for me on Intrepid.
chris4585
October 18th, 2008, 10:20 PM
Ah, that sucks, I've already decided to go with galeon.. it doesn't seem to use too much more ram than kazehakase at start, 2mbs or so.
chris4585
October 18th, 2008, 10:21 PM
Kazehakase works fine for me on Intrepid.
I'll give kazehakase a shot in intrepid then ;)
chris4585
October 24th, 2008, 06:59 AM
woot! I have the Light beta up finally.
http://boxbuntu.com/?p=175
for more information.
chris4585
October 24th, 2008, 06:58 PM
I have setup a IRC channel on freenode if anyone is interested, the channel is #+1
If you don't know how IRC works, you should download a IRC client (xchat in the repos) on the network dialog find freenode, select and edit, on the join channel's field type in "#+1" and put your own information in, hit close and then hit connect.
on another note, there are more screenshots on the site, http://boxbuntu.com/?page_id=188
h0bbe
November 1st, 2008, 10:31 AM
Great work Chris! Do you have plans on a Plusone 8.10?
chris4585
November 1st, 2008, 08:54 PM
Great work Chris! Do you have plans on a Plusone 8.10?
There is a possibility for that, we'll wait and see
SomeGuyDude
November 3rd, 2008, 09:11 PM
So is this thing OpenBox or LXDE-based? Because from the screens I see a whole bunch of LXDE pieces (taskbar, PCManFM, LXAppearance).
I'm just curious, because I like the look of the project.
chris4585
November 4th, 2008, 12:01 AM
So is this thing OpenBox or LXDE-based? Because from the screens I see a whole bunch of LXDE pieces (taskbar, PCManFM, LXAppearance).
I'm just curious, because I like the look of the project.
The only thing LXDE is LXappearance (as of now), and Openbox. I can see how you mistaken the LXDE taskbar for fbpanel. The choice to install LXDE is very easy if you want to install it though, the repository is already added to the sources.list on the LiveCD's that are out.
For light, the panel is fbpanel, for the panel, and rox for the file manager.
For standard, the panel will be fbpanel, and the file manager will probably be PCManFM or thunar.
chris4585
November 4th, 2008, 06:43 PM
Anyone willing to help this is my current problem..
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=971081
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