Laughing as I left the bank. ATM with BSOD

[Old_Gray_Wolf]

I went to the bank to use the ATM machine since it is the weekend. It wasn't working. It was displaying the infamous BSOD. LMAO

[armageddon08]

I went to the bank to use the ATM machine since it is the weekend. It wasn't working. It was displaying the infamous BSOD. LMAO

HaHaHa........:lol:

[Sealbhach]

I saw two windows errors while out and about on Friday. One was a bank machine showing a Windows login screen, the other was an advertisement LCD with some windows error message.

Times I wish I had brought my camera.

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[jc87]

I don't know which OS ATM´s in Portugal run, but one thing for me is sure, i never seen an BSOD!

[Old_Gray_Wolf]

I wish I had thought to take a picture with my cell phone. :(

[armageddon08]

I went to the bank to use the ATM machine since it is the weekend. It wasn't working. It was displaying the infamous BSOD. LMAO

HaHaHa........:lol:

[Tomatz]

Why would an ATM use the most unsecure OS on the planet????????????

Only in America ](*,)

[starzinger]

There are a few pics of Windows on ATMs around the web:

http://images.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1189/925754433_71a9f9c023.jpg%3Fv%3D0&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikesch45/925754433/&h=375&w=500&sz=129&hl=sv&start=10&um=1&usg=__gJmirzFUYzjnTS3vwl7kyE7-7Kg=&tbnid=Co8A8rW5OHeGoM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwindows%2Bbankomat%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dsv %26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial%26sa%3DN

Crash on a Swedish ATM:

http://images.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2340/2378262264_9fbeaecdd6.jpg%3Fv%3D0&imgrefurl=http://flickr.com/photos/johanap/2378262264/&h=333&w=500&sz=91&hl=sv&start=15&um=1&usg=__MbjpOfQcwgQY5ZTeLWSRXQAjuGo=&tbnid=fWg1ntKCSNnTvM:&tbnh=87&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwindows%2Bbankomat%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dsv %26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial%26sa%3DN

[nowin4me]

Why would an ATM use the most unsecure OS on the planet????????????

Only in America ](*,)

Wrong I live in England and I have seen the BSOD on an ATM

There are a few pics of Windows on ATMs around the web:

http://images.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1189/925754433_71a9f9c023.jpg%3Fv%3D0&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikesch45/925754433/&h=375&w=500&sz=129&hl=sv&start=10&um=1&usg=__gJmirzFUYzjnTS3vwl7kyE7-7Kg=&tbnid=Co8A8rW5OHeGoM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwindows%2Bbankomat%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dsv %26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial%26sa%3DN

Crash on a Swedish ATM:

http://images.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2340/2378262264_9fbeaecdd6.jpg%3Fv%3D0&imgrefurl=http://flickr.com/photos/johanap/2378262264/&h=333&w=500&sz=91&hl=sv&start=15&um=1&usg=__MbjpOfQcwgQY5ZTeLWSRXQAjuGo=&tbnid=fWg1ntKCSNnTvM:&tbnh=87&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwindows%2Bbankomat%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dsv %26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial%26sa%3DN

Thanks for the picture links I needed a good laugh.

[Ms_Angel_D]

Here's a bunch of pics try these on for size ;)

http://images.google.com/images?q=ATM+BSOD&hl=en&sourceid=mozilla-search&num=20&start=0&start=0

[Old_Gray_Wolf]

Why would an ATM use the most unsecure OS on the planet????????????

Only in America ](*,)

As I was LMAO I thought about that too. A sobering thought.

I assume by America you mean United States of America. It would be nice to think that it would be limited to only one country.

[simtaalo]

I wish I had thought to take a picture with my cell phone. :(

surely the only good reason to have a camera on your phone :P

[S0VERE1GN]

Why would an ATM use the most unsecure OS on the planet????????????

Only in America ](*,)

keeps police officers in a job. :lolflag:

[Old_Gray_Wolf]

surely the only good reason to have a camera on your phone :P

The least expensive replacement phone I could get came with a camera. I've never used the camera; however, that would have been a nice picture. :lolflag:

[Old_Gray_Wolf]

Here's a bunch of pics try these on for size ;)

http://images.google.com/images?q=ATM+BSOD&hl=en&sourceid=mozilla-search&num=20&start=0&start=0

That link to Google was great. I think one of the pictures is of the same machine my bank uses. :)

[angryfirelord]

Why would an ATM use the most unsecure OS on the planet????????????

Only in America ](*,)
It probably wasn't the bank's decision. More than likely, it came with what the vendor decided to install on it and the transaction software was probably written for Windows. Still, I've seen Windows XP on these ATMs, which seems a bit much. Windows CE or heck even Java could probably do the job a lot more reliably.

[Old_Gray_Wolf]

I don't intend for this thread to be a Windows bashing thread. Each OS has its place.

I just wonder if Windows is the proper OS for an ATM machine.

[pp.]

It probably wasn't the bank's decision. More than likely, it came with what the vendor decided to install on it and the transaction software was probably written for Windows.

Those machines interact quite closely with any bank's main IT systems. It never, never occurs that a bank buys just generically an ATM and lets the manufacturer install the OS and applications of its choosing.

Since the ATM is part of the value chain, the bank makes a point of specifying the OS and the applications being run in those machines.

It's the bank's decision, all right.

[I-75]

I suspect this thread will be closed as the mods will see it as Windows bashing.....I give this less than five more posts before this is closed.

[nowin4me]

I suspect this thread will be closed as the mods will see it as Windows bashing.....I give this less than five more posts before this is closed.

I wouldn't count on it... The mods here seem pretty friendly and to some extent cope up with "Windows bashing" (I think).

[billgoldberg]

I suspect this thread will be closed as the mods will see it as Windows bashing.....I give this less than five more posts before this is closed.

Care to place a bet?

[Old_Gray_Wolf]

I suspect this thread will be closed as the mods will see it as Windows bashing.....I give this less than five more posts before this is closed.

I started this thread. I also posted previously that:

I don't intend for this thread to be a Windows bashing thread. Each OS has its place.

I just wonder if Windows is the proper OS for an ATM machine.

We will see what the mods do.

However, if you want to know were I stand, read my signature. :)

[nowin4me]

I personaly don't think this thead will be locked

[days_of_ruin]

I went to the bank to use the ATM machine since it is the weekend. It wasn't working. It was displaying the infamous BSOD. LMAO

It's probably connected to the internet too.0_0

[jonathonblake]

It's probably connected to the internet too.0_0

I've a dim memory that the one's that used OS/2 WARP 4.0 and OS/2 5.0 were connected to the Internet.



xan

jonathon

[pp.]

It's probably connected to the internet too.0_0

Presumably, as no one seems to be able to afford dedicated lines any more. There have been reports of power plants being connected to the internet.

[smoker]

no wonder there's a crisis with banks making woeful judgments:
http://www.silicon.com/financialservices/0,3800010322,39170244,00.htm

also, anyone got an mp3 player?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/18/mp3_player_atm_hack/
:-)

[ft23002]

And its not just ATM machines that suffer from this disease...

http://media.techeblog.com/images/funnysigns.jpg


...darn, Guess I gotta get outa the car. lol

No money, no food, ...errrrggg!

[simtaalo]

And its not just ATM machines that suffer from this disease...

http://media.techeblog.com/images/funnysigns.jpg


...darn, Guess I gotta get outa the car. lol

No money, no food, ...errrrggg!

will teach you to goto a mcdonalds :lolflag:

[toupeiro]

Up until 2006, Diebold was using Windows 98 and 2000 for the majority of their ATM's. They finally upgraded them to XP when the check-20 regulations passed. I thought it was a bit ridiculous myself, but then again, its not like there are an abundance of ATM Manufacturers re-engineering this stuff.. They will just harden it and monitor it to the 'nth degree..

Thats primarily because the device drivers for the ATM hardware were written for that OS. However, There is nothing "standard" about these machines, and I pity anyone foolish enough to tamper with one because they think they're a Windows HaX0r.....



no wonder there's a crisis with banks making woeful judgments:
http://www.silicon.com/financialserv...9170244,00.htm

If your ATM's face internet born worms just because they run windows, then you need to find a bank that understands networking.... The problem there is NOT the atm's... That article assumes most worthwhile banks put their ATM's on public networks or have some sort of public accessible data port.... Unless you're banking at some mom and pop bank that can't afford to invest into network security, this article is a little rose-colored. I understand nobodies a really huge fan of banks right now, but that doesn't mean they do everything wrong... I worked at a Credit Union for a few years as a network admin, and we were checked at random by hired companies to compromise our machines or network and if done, provide a report so we can fix it. Never once did we have any issues with our windows ATM's... I don't work for them anymore, but I'd venture to say there were not many institutions that took security as seriously as they did, not even whom I work for now. For the most part, most IT organizations can learn a great deal about security from banks...

While I'll be the first to admit that NOTHING is unhackable, the reality of most situations is if you lose money from your account, its most likely due to 3 reasons:

1) you got socially engineered into submitting your account info, by web, or by phone.

2) You threw away some statement with your account info without shreading it.

3) your card got stolen and used at vendor who did not ask for Identification.


Somewhere down near the bottom of maybe a top 50 list would be, they actively or passively hacked your account by compromising a banks ATM machine.

I say bank because you should use common sense and not use tagged ATM machines inside the liquor store in South-Central LA and expect security...

[NoSmokingBandit]

I heard somewhere that alot of ATM's use a modified OS/2. I might be completely wrong though.

[smoker]

The computer network used by the World Bank Group has suffered a series of at least six intrusions since mid-2007, according to a report...

...Cluley said: "Ideally, if you're a large organisation or financial organisation, then you would have a team of penetration testers testing your system to the limit looking for those weaknesses, looking for those holes. It's much better that you find them before a criminally minded hacker does."

Apparently, the World Bank Group does not conduct its own security-assessment testing, a requirement of financial institutions in the US and other countries...
http://www.silicon.com/financialservices/0,3800010322,39301934,00.htm

i agree the problem is usually not the atm, but i would like to know the truth of the extent of security breaches in banks and financial institutions, a subject the banks, obviously, prefer to keep from the public.

[seanc7]

Why would an ATM use the most unsecure OS on the planet????????????

Only in America ](*,)

Why? Because MS has the ATM makers in their back pocket still.

At my work where we work with these Windows-driven ATMs, I see BSODs all the time. We're trying to break the ATMs and we do pretty easily.

The old ones that use OS/2 or a proprietary firmware? Almost impossible to make crash.

[Xofilol]

Old Grey Wolf: I saw a Windows Login screen on television channel two, which is the channel supposed to be showing community event notices with jazz music in the background. The music was still playing, so that must be separate. No one was checking the broadcast.

[CrazyArcher]

I've seen a Black(!) SoD on an information screen at some railway station. I still wonder how they managed to get that. Complete hardware failure, probably? :lolflag:

[cmat]

There is an express bus service that runs by here I ride sometimes. They had wireless advertisement system on the buses. Every time I rode the thing the screen would either be displaying those fatal error blue screens or would be stuck in a constant reboot cycle. Looks like they scraped the advert service for almost a year now. I blame poorly coded software the advertising company used. But Windows should have remained stable.

[pp.]

Every time I rode the thing the screen would either be displaying those fatal error blue screens or would be stuck in a constant reboot cycle. (...) But Windows should have remained stable.

I studied physics once upon a time. We learned that stability is the ability to stand still. In one of those two cases you describe above Windows was very stable indeed.