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Gildp67
September 12th, 2008, 04:31 PM
I have been a fan of Ubuntu for some time now, but the lack of sound card support is leaving me to think that this version is less than even vista quality. I have ask and emailed and searched the web high and low for a fix for my sound card and still nothing and the audigy line is so widely used I am shocked that it doesn't work without question. I get that this OS is free and all but come on. There should not be this much work just to get sound. Never had this much problem in the past. All I get is buzzing and popping and clicking shouldn't be so messed up at this point. Sorry but very frustrated and very disappointed.

wolfen69
September 12th, 2008, 04:33 PM
do you have onboard sound? if so, did you disable it? and what is the model# of the audigy card? audigy 1? 2?

halitech
September 12th, 2008, 04:34 PM
can you post the output of
lspci
I can't see it not working, I've only ever had problems getting old ISA cards to work with sound.

SunnyRabbiera
September 12th, 2008, 04:35 PM
But Sound card support is more of a HARDWARE issue then a Ubuntu one, as it stands Ubuntu technically can support more hardware then Vista as its dynamic kernel is always changing.
But this is more of a manufacturer issue, not a Ubuntu one.
But if you insist on using windows then do so and be done with it, if you are unwilling to learn that linux isnt always at fault then you have no business using it.

Bucky Ball
September 12th, 2008, 04:35 PM
Some more detailed specs on your soundcard would help. Creative make many. :)

MegaJim
September 12th, 2008, 04:36 PM
I have been a fan of Ubuntu for some time now, but the lack of sound card support is leaving me to think that this version is less than even vista quality. I have ask and emailed and searched the web high and low for a fix for my sound card and still nothing and the audigy line is so widely used I am shocked that it doesn't work without question. I get that this OS is free and all but come on. There should not be this much work just to get sound. Never had this much problem in the past. All I get is buzzing and popping and clicking shouldn't be so messed up at this point. Sorry but very frustrated and very disappointed.

Which sound card do you have?


sudo lshw -C multimedia

P.s. any moaning should be directed at Creative Ltd., as they are the company who build the audigy and decide not to write drivers for the Linux platform!

FYI I have an Audigy 2 ZS running flawlessly with the emu101k

Gildp67
September 12th, 2008, 04:36 PM
I have Audigy 2 and yes on board sound is disabled. Worked fine until I decided to use latest vers of Ubuntu

SunnyRabbiera
September 12th, 2008, 04:39 PM
I have Audigy 2 and yes on board sound is disabled. Worked fine until I decided to use latest vers of Ubuntu

Well hope you know that creative is a crappy sound card company even on windows.
I used a creative sound card on my old Desktop PC, I had XP with all the trimmings, installed all the drivers, restarted my computer and still the creative card gave me issues.
Give me Realtek anyday, I had better luck with them.

jerome1232
September 12th, 2008, 04:39 PM
My Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS works flawlessly perhaps you can run the lshw command that was suggested and provide the output

SunnyRabbiera
September 12th, 2008, 04:42 PM
My Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS works flawlessly perhaps you can run the lshw command that was suggested and provide the output

My experiences with creative have been hellish on a personal note, when I had to do a windows update it seemed I had to fix the rotten thing every time.

Jadd
September 12th, 2008, 04:49 PM
NO offence but come on
What kind of thread title is that?
NO offence but come on
Please, if you want help, stick to some simple rules, such as descriptive thread titles.

jaqie
September 12th, 2008, 04:51 PM
In all honesty if you didn't have trouble with your audigy in windows you got lucky. There was a class action lawsuit against creative tech for the EMU10k series of cards (including the audigy) about serious deficiencies in the hardware and driver, IIRC. So you didn't get as lucky in linux as you did in windows... sorry to hear that. that card can be just as much a headache in windows as it is being for you in linux (actually it can be moreso!). just google "audigy problem" or "audigy pops" or such and you will see that the problem is HORRIBLY prevelant in windows as well.

jerome1232
September 12th, 2008, 04:52 PM
NO offence but come on
What kind of thread title is that?
NO offence but come on
Please, if you want help, stick to some simple rules, such as descriptive thread titles.

+1

Yet I can understand being frustrated with having no sound and it has already been explained that creative doesn't write drivers for linux, it is creative that doesn't support linux not the other way around.

SunnyRabbiera
September 12th, 2008, 04:53 PM
In all honesty if you didn't have trouble with your audigy in windows you got lucky. There was a class action lawsuit against creative tech for the EMU10k series of cards (including the audigy) about serious deficiencies in the hardware and driver, IIRC. So you didn't get as lucky in linux as you did in windows... sorry to hear that. that card can be just as much a headache in windows as it is being for you in linux (actually it can be moreso!). just google "audigy problem" or "audigy pops" or such and you will see that the problem is HORRIBLY prevelant in windows as well.

Aye, I know this from experience.

philinux
September 12th, 2008, 04:53 PM
NO offence but come on
What kind of thread title is that?
NO offence but come on
Please, if you want help, stick to some simple rules, such as descriptive thread titles.

+1. Without your pc specs how is anybody supposed to help.

Gildp67
September 12th, 2008, 04:55 PM
Hers what I got from the lshw

description: Computer
width: 32 bits
*-core
description: Motherboard
physical id: 0
*-memory
description: System memory
physical id: 0
size: 1011MiB
*-cpu
product: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 1
bus info: cpu@0
version: 6.10.0
size: 1850MHz
width: 32 bits
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up ts
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
physical id: 0
size: 128KiB
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
physical id: 1
size: 512KiB
*-pci
description: Host bridge
product: nForce2 IGP2
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: a2
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
configuration: driver=agpgart-nvidia module=nvidia_agp
*-memory:0 UNCLAIMED
description: RAM memory
product: nForce2 Memory Controller 1
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.1
version: a2
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz (15.2ns)
configuration: latency=0
*-memory:1 UNCLAIMED
description: RAM memory
product: nForce2 Memory Controller 4
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.2
version: a2
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz (15.2ns)
configuration: latency=0
*-memory:2 UNCLAIMED
description: RAM memory
product: nForce2 Memory Controller 3
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.3
version: a2
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz (15.2ns)
configuration: latency=0
*-memory:3 UNCLAIMED
description: RAM memory
product: nForce2 Memory Controller 2
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0.4
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.4
version: a2
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz (15.2ns)
configuration: latency=0
*-memory:4 UNCLAIMED
description: RAM memory
product: nForce2 Memory Controller 5
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0.5
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.5
version: a2
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz (15.2ns)
configuration: latency=0
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: nForce2 ISA Bridge
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
version: a3
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: isa bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0
*-serial
description: SMBus
product: nForce2 SMBus (MCP)
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 1.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.1
version: a2
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: cap_list
configuration: driver=nForce2_smbus latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3 module=i2c_nforce2
*-usb:0
description: USB Controller
product: nForce2 USB Controller
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 2
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
version: a3
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ohci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3 module=ohci_hcd
*-usb:1
description: USB Controller
product: nForce2 USB Controller
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 2.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.1
version: a3
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ohci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3 module=ohci_hcd
*-usb:2
description: USB Controller
product: nForce2 USB Controller
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 2.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.2
version: a3
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3 module=ehci_hcd
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: nForce2 Ethernet Controller
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 4
bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0
logical name: eth0
version: a1
serial: 00:e0:18:fc:34:8d
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=forcedeth driverversion=0.61 latency=0 maxlatency=20 mingnt=1 module=forcedeth multicast=yes
*-pci:0
description: PCI bridge
product: nForce2 External PCI Bridge
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 8
bus info: pci@0000:00:08.0
version: a3
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master
*-multimedia
description: Multimedia audio controller
product: SB Audigy
vendor: Creative Labs
physical id: 9
bus info: pci@0000:01:09.0
version: 04
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=EMU10K1_Audigy latency=32 maxlatency=20 mingnt=2 module=snd_emu10k1
*-input
description: Input device controller
product: SB Audigy Game Port
vendor: Creative Labs
physical id: 9.1
bus info: pci@0000:01:09.1
version: 04
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=Emu10k1_gameport latency=32 module=emu10k1_gp
*-firewire
description: FireWire (IEEE 1394)
product: SB Audigy FireWire Port
vendor: Creative Labs
physical id: 9.2
bus info: pci@0000:01:09.2
version: 04
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ohci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ohci1394 latency=32 maxlatency=4 mingnt=2 module=ohci1394
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
physical id: a
bus info: pci@0000:01:0a.0
logical name: eth2
version: 10
serial: 00:0a:cd:14:d9:f6
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=8139too driverversion=0.9.28 ip=192.168.1.79 latency=32 maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 module=8139too multicast=yes
*-ide
description: IDE interface
product: nForce2 IDE
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 9
bus info: pci@0000:00:09.0
version: a2
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ide bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pata_amd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3 module=pata_amd
*-pci:1
description: PCI bridge
product: nForce2 PCI Bridge
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: c
bus info: pci@0000:00:0c.0
version: a3
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: 3C920B-EMB Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller [Tornado]
vendor: 3Com Corporation
physical id: 1
bus info: pci@0000:02:01.0
logical name: eth1
version: 40
serial: 00:e0:18:f1:8c:d4
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=3c59x latency=32 maxlatency=10 mingnt=10 module=3c59x multicast=yes
*-firewire
description: FireWire (IEEE 1394)
product: nForce2 FireWire (IEEE 1394) Controller
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: d
bus info: pci@0000:00:0d.0
version: a3
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ohci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ohci1394 latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3 module=ohci1394
*-pci:2
description: PCI bridge
product: nForce2 AGP
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 1e
bus info: pci@0000:00:1e.0
version: a2
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x]
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
version: a1
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=nvidia latency=248 maxlatency=1 mingnt=5 m

philinux
September 12th, 2008, 04:56 PM
Someone fixed the audigy 2 here.

https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/30828

MegaJim
September 12th, 2008, 05:01 PM
just for clarity, the relevant part of the lshw printed above is:


*-multimedia
description: Multimedia audio controller
product: SB Audigy
vendor: Creative Labs
physical id: 9
bus info: pci@0000:01:09.0
version: 04
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=EMU10K1_Audigy latency=32 maxlatency=20 mingnt=2 module=snd_emu10k1

phidia
September 12th, 2008, 05:20 PM
There is a note about losing sound when upgrading to hardy here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting).

Eisenwinter
September 12th, 2008, 05:48 PM
If have you a sound card from the EMU1010 (emu10k) series, go read the post at my signature.

I have an EMU 1212m, and have struggled for a few hours until I finally got sound to work.

kostkon
September 12th, 2008, 07:44 PM
It may be a PulseAudio related issue (it can be solved by installing padevchooser for a more granular control of the software volume levels and setting the default device for PulseAudio and/or by following some parts of this how-to (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578)), or maybe a problem with the hardware volume levels (it can be solved using alsamixer) than a hardware one.

kostkon
September 12th, 2008, 07:54 PM
Also, try to set your card as the default in Alsa. Give the command

asoundconf list
to get a list of all the sound cards of your system. That way you will see how Alsa recognises your card, for example it may list it as emu10k1.

Thus, to set it as the default (and using as an example the emu10k1 name) you'll do

asoundconf set-default-card emu10k1

k3lt01
September 12th, 2008, 09:14 PM
I don't now why anyone would have a problem with the Audigy card, I have an Audigy Live and it worked out of the box in Feisty, Gutsy, and Hardy clean install each time.