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[LaRoza]

Recently a few PM's were sent out about religious sigs citing section 13 of the Code of Conduct.

I was given a list by people who were miffed by being asked to change (so to speak) of various faiths (including atheism and wiccan(ism?)).

I noticed one on the list was an Ubuntu CE developer and didn't send that out because it seemed it was only this forum was that person active.

If anyone who is only active in this forum for the most part had such a sig, and was asked to change, I do not think you would have had to and you can change back.

Sorry for the troubles.

[cjm5229]

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Free and open source software, also F/OSS, FOSS, or FLOSS (for Free/Libre/Open Source Software) is software which is liberally licensed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_licence) to grant the right of users to study, change, and improve its design through the availability of its source code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_code). This approach has gained both momentum and acceptance as the potential benefits have been increasingly recognized by both individuals and corporate players.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open_source_software#cite_note-0)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open_source_software#cite_note-1)
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If one freedom is taken away, others will soon follow. This is a great Philosophy, FOSS, I thought this was what Ubuntu was all about.

[david_kt]

Recently a few PM's were sent out about religious sigs citing section 13 of the Code of Conduct.

Actually I do not use any sig at all until now. But let me give my suggestion:

Forum signatures are limited to three lines of text, 10pt maximum font size. Signatures are also not a place for inappropriate material such as attacks, slander, harassment, political or religious remarks. We regret that users are not allowed to use images in their signatures (see staff signature guidelines below in Section III for an exception to this policy). The use of political images in avatars is also prohibited.

I would suggest that "religious remarks" would be interpreted as a remark that defaming (another) religion or promoting (own) religion, or inviting a debate. All other decent remark that intended to encourge ownself and/or others to do good deeds for example, should be considered a good thing.

We are all religious people anyway, as I consider satanism of even atheism
is a kind of religion and everybody are free to choose their own religion, provided we are not disturbing each other.

This is just my suggestion and I do not intend to use any sig in near future.

Regards,
DK

[cjm5229]

I agree David, I always figured a Quote from the most read book on earth to be pretty safe. But I guess I was wrong, so as you can see I removed my signature. I disagree with their reasoning, but, I'm not the one in Charge. I did send a PM with what I believe to be the definition of Freedom. Now it is up them to decide. I do understand what got them into this situation, It was one of those derogatory remarks, and of course when that was censored then there was the rebuttal, "what about those Christians", which is why I tend to disagree with any form of censorship. Anyway, now it is up the Mods, they have the responsibility to make the decision, and I for one will abide by it. As a Veteran, I have a tendency to put up a fight when someone wants to take away someone else's freedom. but I really do understand the situation they find themselves in. And I will also fight for their right to make the decision they make. So I am just praying for their Wisdom.

[LaRoza]

If one freedom is taken away, others will soon follow. This is a great Philosophy, FOSS, I thought this was what Ubuntu was all about.

No, follow this: http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php?page=policy

We (staff) do not hold the forum to our own personal views, but the Code of Conduct. We are all from different countries and of different ideals, that is the one thing we all have in common.

So I am just praying for their Wisdom.
Thanks, but there is no need. I didn't write the CoC, and I said you could change it back.

[cjm5229]

LaRoza,
Thank you for your answer, Since I do participate in other sections of the forum, and since I noticed that if I change the sig, it changes it on all posts I have ever put in. I will just leave it off. I am sorry if I caused any problems.

PS, as long as I have you here I was just looking at your tutorial on programing, Looks great. I really would like to be able to contribute more, my biggest problem though is my keyboard skills are atrocious. Let me know when it is finished.

[LaRoza]

PS, as long as I have you here I was just looking at your tutorial on programing, Looks great. I really would like to be able to contribute more, my biggest problem though is my keyboard skills are atrocious. Let me know when it is finished.

I have a tutorial? My wiki and site are full of links to better tutorials for programming.

Programming is also a good way to improve typing skills (has to be accurate).

A quick google: http://www.knowledgehound.com/khhow2s/how_to_type.htm

When typing, keep your hands floating above the keyboard (don't rest them!) and keep the fingers on the home row. You should be able to type any character without moving your hands any distance.

It can be a pain when learning, but you'll appreciate it when you are proficient.

[cjm5229]

Yeh, that's what I meant, Wiki, When I was looking at it the other day it sent me to blank pages, but I see they aren't blank today. My keyboarding problem is that I am a 56' yr old truck driver, I have have spent most of the last 40 yrs hauling steel and lumber. so I have hands to match. My fingers are very strong, but when I want one finger to do something, it's buddies say not without me.:) This also tends to be very hard on keyboards, my wife always tells me to just tap the keys, dont' drive them through the keyboard. I say, that's what I thought I was doing. That's why I only have 300 posts in 3 yrs of being on these forums. But, I homeschool my son, and He can type quite well, so what I learn, I will pass on to him and he can do the actual work. :lolflag:
Thanks, for the information, I appreciate it.
Carl

[LaRoza]

Yeh, that's what I meant, Wiki, When I was looking at it the other day it sent me to blank pages, but I see they aren't blank today. My keyboarding problem is that I am a 56' yr old truck driver, I have have spent most of the last 40 yrs hauling steel and lumber. so I have hands to match. My fingers are very strong, but when I want one finger to do something, it's buddies say not without me.:) This also tends to be very hard on keyboards, my wife always tells me to just tap the keys, dont' drive them through the keyboard. I say, that's what I thought I was doing. That's why I only have 300 posts in 3 yrs of being on these forums. But, I homeschool my son, and He can type quite well, so what I learn, I will pass on to him and he can do the actual work.
Thanks, for the information, I appreciate it.
Carl

Actually, my mother (who is a petite person, and I have her bone structure, very, very light) also pounds the keys. She is a very good typist (very fast and accurage) but she learned on a manual typewriter. If you ever used on of those, you have to press really hard and fast to get a good print (especially hard on the outer keys). I would bet even you would have to think about pressing hard enough if you used on of those!

[cjm5229]

I took typing in High School, I believe it was 1968, we only had one electric typewriter in the classroom. so, yes, I know what you mean. I actually wasn't too bad at it back then. but my fingers move so slowly anymore that it took me five min. to write this. I am real bad about hitting two keys at once. The keys are smaller than my fingers. I love my backspace button, something we didn't have back in the sixties!:) I'm getting nostalgic on you now. This is fun though, maybe next time I will tell you about the phonograph. Or about my Dad buying the first TV in my hometown in 1954, but we didn't get a TV Station to watch until 1957!:( Times have sure Changed, I think it's great. Your generation has been blessed with some fantastic tools, I hope they are used wisely.