Google Chrome megathread (pre-Linux version)

[fluteflute]

http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-09-01-n47.html
http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/

The day has almost come - just waiting for it to be actually downloadable. It is to be open source. Discuss.

[OutOfReach]

I really like the features of it all (Especially the sad tab thing, I hate firefox crashing all of my tabs just because of a youtube video), but I just wonder if they will be able to implement it all. :s, I'll love google if they can come out with this . :D

[billgoldberg]

I'm using it the second it comes out.

The idea of each tab acting like it's own process is great.

They implemented lots of good ideas from other browsers (firefox, opera, IE8 ) and added some of theirselfs.

And it uses Webkit!

And is Open Source!

And will have superiour Javascript capabilities than any other browser!

I smell awesomeness.

--

ps: It was a smart move of them to use comics to explain it. Just a plain text article with some pictures would be boring.

[billgoldberg]

I really like the features of it all (Especially the sad tab thing, I hate firefox crashing all of my tabs just because of a youtube video), but I just wonder if they will be able to implement it all. :s

It's Google, they have more employees than some small countries have people.

[OutOfReach]

It's Google, they have more employees than some small countries have people.

Hah, good point, very good point. I have faith in you google! :P

[mips]

And it uses Webkit!

And is Open Source!


Hopefully it is done in Qt4.

[billgoldberg]

Hopefully it is done in Qt4.

I hope not.

[SunnyRabbiera]

looks interesting, though its bound to have issues by using webkit without some sort of browser agent.
I hope its expansible like firefox.

[OutOfReach]

Hopefully it is done in Qt4.

I too, hope so. :)

[fluteflute]

Since I posted I've been reading the comic book (http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/) and I have to say this is going to be truely awesome.

I notice it doesn't say anything about operating systems - but I seriously doubt Google would build something that doesn't run on all three of Windows, Mac and Linux. It may especially benefit us on Linux, with the sad state of crashing flash.

[zmjjmz]

Looks nice.

[billgoldberg]

Since I posted I've been reading the comic book (http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/) and I have to say this is going to be truely awesome.

I notice it doesn't say anything about operating systems - but I seriously doubt Google would build something that doesn't run on all three of Windows, Mac and Linux. It may especially benefit us on Linux, with the sad state of crashing flash.

Once you switch to alsa and use flash player 10 rc, crashes in firefox aren't a problem anymore.

[Swarms]

Only problem with flash are the grey boxes.

But about this project, it does sound awesome. And I hope it will be available fast to all platforms that has wanting users. Being Windows, Mac etc. and both for Qt and GTK.

[mips]

I hope not.The Qt4 collection of apps are getting larger, VLC soon, Firefox in future, I love it.

[Watchtow3r]

Yeah I HOPE it's available for linux. Mac and Windows for sure, but Linux isn't necessarily a definitely. Google and Firefox are friends, correct? Meaning that more than likely Google and Linux are friends. Now we just have to wait for Google OS. I wouldn't doubt it's coming. As long as its open source I'm good!

[zmjjmz]

It's very likely that it will be cross-platform, and since it's OSS there may very well be a port.

[fluteflute]

I think Google will realise the potential Linux market is massive, and anyway as its open source it could probable be easily ported to Linux. And if there is a Google OS (I doubt it, but before today I doubted a Google browser) it will likely be based on Linux and Google would want compatibility!

[Weav]

This looks awesome. Good old Google

[billgoldberg]

The Qt4 collection of apps are getting larger, VLC soon, Firefox in future, I love it.

Yeah, rub it in.

:lolflag:

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It's not that I don't like Qt4. It's great in a KDE distro. I just don't want any of it on my Gnome setup.

[OutOfReach]

Well, since it is open source software, they will most likely release it for Linux too.

[fluteflute]

It would seem I'm posting alot in this thread but anyway ...

http://smccloud.livejournal.com/15488.html

Apparently the 'official release' is Wednesday. Of course whether thats the comic, the browser or both I have no idea.

[happysmileman]

Hopefully it is done in Qt4.

I agree, not just because of KDE themes and stuff, Opera uses Qt4 and looks fine in Gnome too, Google could obviously achieve that if they wish as well.

Also I feel that Qt is just a superior toolkit to GTK in many ways, would you really dislike if it was like Skype or Opera and had it's theme work perfectly well on Gnome, but was still Qt?

I've seen many Qt apps that looked fine on Gnome, every GTK app I've ever used has looked horrible in KDE.

EDIT: I'm just assuming that the main problem is themes, since my main problem with GTK is that they look terrible on KDE. Which doesn't affect Qt with the proper effort done by the developers of the program, it may not fit into your Gnome theme but it would look a lot better than a GTK program does on KDE

[mellowd]

Sounds very nice indeed

[happysmileman]

It would seem I'm posting alot in this thread but anyway ...

http://smccloud.livejournal.com/15488.html

Apparently the 'official release' is Wednesday. Of course whether thats the comic, the browser or both I have no idea.

From reading that it seems it's just the comic that will be released Wednesday :(... Hopefully there'll be more info available then.

[mips]

I agree, not just because of KDE themes and stuff, Opera uses Qt4 and looks fine in Gnome too, Google could obviously achieve that if they wish as well.

Also I feel that Qt is just a superior toolkit to GTK in many ways, would you really dislike if it was like Skype or Opera and had it's theme work perfectly well on Gnome, but was still Qt?

I've seen many Qt apps that looked fine on Gnome, every GTK app I've ever used has looked horrible in KDE.

EDIT: I'm just assuming that the main problem is themes, since my main problem with GTK is that they look terrible on KDE. Which doesn't affect Qt with the proper effort done by the developers of the program, it may not fit into your Gnome theme but it would look a lot better than a GTK program does on KDE

Form a cross platform perspective Qt makes sense. Yes, GTK apps look horrid on kde.

[Prefix100]

I really don't think I could love google anymore.

Especially page 37.

Go Google!

[happysmileman]

Form a cross platform perspective Qt makes sense. Yes, GTK apps look horrid on kde.

Yes, but Qt apps don't always look horrid in Gnome, which means, in my eyes, unless it will ONLY be a Gnome app, choosing GTK is just wrong. Unfortunately many people here just think in terms of "Will it look good in Ubuntu with Gnome" rather than "What is the best choice for a Windows/Mac/Linux program that should look good in all DEs".

I'm annoyed enough that Firefox does this, if Opera worked better with Flash I would definitely switch.

[OutOfReach]

Qt in my mind looks really good on all platforms (including windows), GTK on the other hand, not so much. :/

[happysmileman]

Once you switch to alsa and use flash player 10 rc, crashes in firefox aren't a problem anymore.

Haven't done it on Kubuntu (I use ALSO but unless flash 10 is in the repos I don't use it) but on Gentoo I've noticed horrible slowness on some sites (can't remember which) and lack of sound and/or video on others (ustream for one)

[Hire]

Very nice :D QT and webkite, nice combo!

I want to try it NOW :KS

[Ub1476]

Google phone os (Android), google reader, gmail, google docs, google search, and now Google Browser! I hope I'm not getting addicted to Google :eek:

[Swarms]

Too bad they ditched Google Sync...

[Mateo]

Yeah I HOPE it's available for linux. Mac and Windows for sure, but Linux isn't necessarily a definitely. Google and Firefox are friends, correct? Meaning that more than likely Google and Linux are friends. Now we just have to wait for Google OS. I wouldn't doubt it's coming. As long as its open source I'm good!

Google hasn't released any of its other products for linux. They just release a wine version.

[zmjjmz]

Google hasn't released any of its other products for linux. They just release a wine version.

Not true.

[Mateo]

Not true.

which?

[mellowd]

Google hasn't released any of its other products for linux. They just release a wine version.

What? You can get google earth on linux.

[zmjjmz]

which?

Google Earth, Google Gears, some other awesome Google product that's awesome but I forget.
Sketch Up they don't have a Linux version for, and Picasa runs perfectly in WINE so why the hell not.

[Mateo]

I'm fairly certain it (Google Earth) isn't a native version.

[Mateo]

Google Earth, Google Gears, some other awesome Google product that's awesome but I forget.
Sketch Up they don't have a Linux version for, and Picasa runs perfectly in WINE so why the hell not.

Google Earth and Picasa (never used Gears) look like trash in Linux. Might run fine, but they look terrible.

[mellowd]

Google Earth and Picasa (never used Gears) look like trash in Linux. Might run fine, but they look terrible.


Maybe so, but your comment said they haven't released anything, which is untrue

[billgoldberg]

Very nice :D QT and webkite, nice combo!

I want to try it NOW :KS

It doesn't say anyware that it will be Qt4.

Some people just hope that.

I'm not one of them.

[Polygon]

they released google earth for linux and they worked with the wine API to make picasa for linux.

also, they use some form or another of ubuntu linux at google, so a linux port is a possibility

but this browser looks interesting. We cant have enough open source browsers, and competition is always good.

[happysmileman]

It doesn't say anyware that it will be Qt4.

Some people just hope that.

I'm not one of them.

You haven't really explained why, there were reasons given FOR Qt, but none against it. Is it just your personal preference as a Gnome user or do you believe that Qt is not the best choice for this?

[Hells_Dark]

The idea of each tab acting like it's own process is great.

The way it should be..

If this is done with gtk, i'll surely adopt it (because i like gnome and integration).

[Steveway]

Stop with the GTK vs QT flamewar guys. It doesn't matter anymore since you can now let QT render your GTK apps and vice-versa. So QT apps will look natively on GTK-based environments and GTK-apps will look natively on QT-based environments.
Also, nice news, first the browser-concepts by mozilla and now google.

[darkxman]

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fresh-take-on-browser.html

Gonna be released tomorrow, but just the windows version. :(

[Hells_Dark]

Stop with the GTK vs QT flamewar guys. It doesn't matter anymore since you can now let QT render your GTK apps and vice-versa.
Actually, it DOES matter.. at least for some of us.

By the way, i want this browser to come out in order that firefox take the good ideas n__n
I'm quite excited :D

[kamitsukai]

I personally believe that they would be insane not too port this webrowser to Linux...especially with the huge influx in the netbook market in the last year or so this could potentially be preinstalled on millions of computers world wide, what business model wouldn't want that?:wink:

**Edit**
This is just the beginning -- Google Chrome is far from done. We're releasing this beta for Windows to start the broader discussion and hear from you as quickly as possible. We're hard at work building versions for Mac and Linux too, and will continue to make it even faster and more robust. - Official Google Blog

[-grubby]

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fresh-take-on-browser.html

Gonna be released tomorrow, but just the windows version. :(

I'll still try it in wine

/me also hopes that it will be in qt4

[happysmileman]

Stop with the GTK vs QT flamewar guys. It doesn't matter anymore since you can now let QT render your GTK apps and vice-versa.

It matters because that doesn't work to my satisfaction, it gets rid of some horrible ugliness, replaces it with other horrible ugliness. That's not a solution in my opinion.

[Hells_Dark]

this is just the beginning -- google chrome is far from done. We're releasing this beta for windows to start the broader discussion and hear from you as quickly as possible. We're hard at work building versions for mac and linux too, and will continue to make it even faster and more robust.

So don't worry for the linux version.

[happysmileman]

Well I'm hoping it will be out for Linux soon, I'd try it in Wine if not but doubt it'd work as well. Also hoping for Qt, google earth uses Qt AFAIK so it seems likely they'd use it for other projects they have

[clinux]

They can easily overtake IE and any other browser.. Just put it on the google homepage!!

[happysmileman]

They can easily overtake IE and any other browser.. Just put it on the google homepage!!

Personally, I think that they will take more users from Firefox/Opera/Safari than IE. Since the majority of IE users just don't bother changing.

I'm interested in seeing if extensions will be supported or widely used, and how much they can interact with the web pages and browser itself due to the sandboxxing.

[kamitsukai]

looks really interesting, hopefully the Mozilla team can pinch some ideas and maybe improve upon some code:lolflag:

[Mateo]

They can easily overtake IE and any other browser.. Just put it on the google homepage!!

Most IE users, and most internet users, don't know what a web browser is, or that IE is a web browser. They think that IE = "The Internet". So no, google cannot pull in customers who don't know that they are customers.

[JillSwift]

Most IE users, and most internet users, don't know what a web browser is, or that IE is a web browser. They think that IE = "The Internet". So no, google cannot pull in customers who don't know that they are customers.Cool. Then Google can advertise it as "a better internet". :D

[Xanatos Craven]

Personally, I think that they will take more users from Firefox/Opera/Safari than IE. Since the majority of IE users just don't bother changing.

Two gigantic corporations can play at that game. And are, as a matter of fact. Google already shells out tons of money to have its software preinstalled on some brands of computers and other devices -- it's only natural that they would extend this strategy to their browser, paying to have it replace IE as the default after it's been established as being just as solid and usable as any other browser.

[rune0077]

Most IE users, and most internet users, don't know what a web browser is, or that IE is a web browser. They think that IE = "The Internet". So no, google cannot pull in customers who don't know that they are customers.

Some IE users don't know that IE is a web browser. Let's not generalize to much. I don't think I've ever met anybody who didn't know that (though I've met many who wasn't aware that there's alternatives to IE).

[happysmileman]

looks really interesting, hopefully the Mozilla team can pinch some ideas and maybe improve upon some code:lolflag:

At least one of the programmers mentioned in the comic was a well known Mozilla coder and google stated that they took some concepts (and maybe some code) from Mozilla, so presumably this will work both ways (Though I don't think it will inspire any HUGE changes to firefox anytime soon)

[clinux]

Most IE users, and most internet users, don't know what a web browser is, or that IE is a web browser. They think that IE = "The Internet". So no, google cannot pull in customers who don't know that they are customers.

That's true but i think google is the only company of that magnitude, that supports open/free programs, that could "infiltrate" in the ignorant computer users. Nevertheless those are habits of the previous generation, that will change soon.

Cool. Then Google can advertise it as "a better internet".

:lol:, it's wierd to think that this actually could work. i can imagine "Download Google Web Browser-for a better internet experience"

[tom66]

Wow, it sounds pretty awesome. I sure would rush to get it, might even use it as my default.

[mrgnash]

I am disappointed that the beta release is only going to be for Windows, but still, I am reasonably sure the end-product will live up to Google's generally high standards regardless.

[billgoldberg]

You haven't really explained why, there were reasons given FOR Qt, but none against it. Is it just your personal preference as a Gnome user or do you believe that Qt is not the best choice for this?

It's personal preference.

[Mateo]

Some IE users don't know that IE is a web browser. Let's not generalize to much. I don't think I've ever met anybody who didn't know that (though I've met many who wasn't aware that there's alternatives to IE).

I stand by that generalization. I think you are overlooking the number of people who use the internet (over 80% in most industrialized countries) and definitely are overestimating their computer knowledge.

[FuturePilot]

Hopefully it is done in Qt4.

Me too. And for those that say it doesn't integrate into Gnome you should try Qgtkstyle. You can't even tell at all that it's not GTK. :)

[darkxman]

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/09/01/first-google-chrome-screenshot.aspx

http://i37.tinypic.com/2uj5oau.jpg

[Mateo]

Looks surprisingly like... a web browser.

[OutOfReach]

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/09/01/first-google-chrome-screenshot.aspx

http://i37.tinypic.com/2uj5oau.jpg

It looks pretty cool. :)

[yaztromo]

Wheres the file, edit, view menus etc. Hope they are not doing an MS and getting rid of them!

Here's also hoping it's written in Gtk/QT. I don't really mind which, but if we're looking to the future and thinking about performance I would much prefer QT4.

[darkxman]

Wheres the file, edit, view menus etc. Hope they are not doing an MS and getting rid of them!

Here's also hoping it's written in Gtk/QT. I don't really mind which, but if we're looking to the future and thinking about performance I would much prefer QT4.Yeah, it looks like it hides the functionality like IE with those 2 drop down buttons on the right.

The whole browser has the same vibe as Google Talk. Very simplistic and lacking in features, but focused on doing the basics well.

[OutOfReach]

I don't think we should be judging it just yet, we shall wait till the beta comes out tomorrow. ;)

[EdThaSlayer]

I like the way Google uses the comics to explain to the people what this whole Chrome project is about. Nice job Google, love the privacy mode too, and the special tabs. :) Hopefully, it will not crash as often as Firefox does in Linux.

[Sorivenul]

I'm ready to roll as soon as it goes up. Very exciting. I've long wondered why they haven't done this. If you can browse the earth, why not browse the web? Good luck, Google.

[AmericanYellow]

This is interesting. I thought that Google was working with Mozilla. Well, lets see what Google has to offer. Firefox fanboys stay strong.:lolflag:

[tubasoldier]

We're releasing this beta for Windows to start the broader discussion and hear from you as quickly as possible. We're hard at work building versions for Mac and Linux too (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fresh-take-on-browser.html)

I'm not quite convinced that Google is "working hard" on a version for Mac and Linux. Last I heard they were "working hard" on getting a lot of their other apps running in Linux. More than likely we will get a *asterdized version of Google Chrome that requires Wine to run it. Google has made a lot of promises to the Linux community and then drag their feet. I'm not all that impressed...yet
I'll stick to Firefox or Opera until there is a real native version.

[Luffield]

I'll try it tomorrow at work on my Windows machine there, but my hunch is that I will keep using my very extended Firefox. I don't like the looks of Chrome and I just need my mouse gestures, Tab Mix Plus and so on.
Still, this thing is very interesting.

[fluteflute]

I wonder how long it will take for someone to work out how to hack the source to get it to work on Linux. Less than a few days I would imagine!

[Pasto]

I wonder how long it will take for someone to work out how to hack the source to get it to work on Linux. Less than a few days I would imagine!

It seemed much more complicated than that. If I didn't read wrong, Chrome compiles javascript to native code. That feature only seems difficult to implement.

[bryncoles]

I think Google will realise the potential Linux market is massive, and anyway as its open source it could probable be easily ported to Linux. And if there is a Google OS (I doubt it, but before today I doubted a Google browser) it will likely be based on Linux and Google would want compatibility!

just to stray off topic: there is a google OS, called gOS (good OS). find it here:

http://www.thinkgos.com/

[fluteflute]

just to stray off topic: there is a google OS, called gOS (good OS). find it here:

http://www.thinkgos.com/
That is NOT a OS by Google. It does make heavy use of Google apps, but I would suspect if Google ever does make an OS they will bring something completely new to the table.

[mips]

Stop with the GTK vs QT flamewar guys. It doesn't matter anymore since you can now let QT render your GTK apps and vice-versa. So QT apps will look natively on GTK-based environments and GTK-apps will look natively on QT-based environments.
Also, nice news, first the browser-concepts by mozilla and now google.

This is not even close to a flame war, no one is dissing GTK, just showing a preference for QT as it will look better across all platforms.

GTK-apps still don't look great on in a Qt environment despite what you say.

[bryncoles]

That is NOT a OS by Google. It does make heavy use of Google apps, but I would suspect if Google ever does make an OS they will bring something completely new to the table.

aha! thank you for the clarification ;-) its still pretty googlified though!

[clinux]

I wonder why they take the linux version so lightly. Surely linux have a lot fewer users than windows but if you release a version for linux you get like >100,000 users almost instantly. Everyone using linux will "dare" or even look forward to use a new web browser.

And i'm a bit afraid about that "working hard" since they are working hard for months for the google earth plugin on linux and still no result.

[graabein]

I consider a Wine version second class to native GTK/QT. Making it look completely different from the local theme is not a good thing in my mind (the blue borders), and while I'm at it, I hope they don't plaster the name and logo all over it.

If it is as smooth and simple as they say, it will get noticed without having the stupid Google logo staring you in the face each time you use it. They're already huge. Ease up on the branding and give the user a break.

With that said, good luck Google!

[pt123]

They will probably release a WINE wrapped version for Linux users.

Firefox all the way.

A shame Google had to jump into the market where there was already a great open source alternative.

[Hells_Dark]

Not a shame..
There are some good ideas here, and it can help others opensource browser since it's opensource..
Moreover, they took ideas (and code) from firefox, so..

[el mariachi]

why is it a shame? it seems to be a very innovative and efficient way of handling things
it's coming out tomorrow so we'll see :D

[Hells_Dark]

Yep, i'm actively waiting for it n__n

[vishzilla]

why is it a shame? it seems to be a very innovative and efficient way of handling things
it's coming out tomorrow so we'll see :D

Isn't it today. Coz the blog post was dated 09.01.2008

[el mariachi]

I saw another one saying that it will be available Sep3 morning PST time

[MJWitter]

Where did you see that?

[el mariachi]

http://shah.developer4ever.com/index.php/2008/09/02/google-launches-internet-browser-chrome/
see the bottom of the page

[clinux]

here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome, it says "The beta release date is scheduled for 18:00 GMT, September 2, 2008."

[el mariachi]

well maybe that's morning PST xD

[Trail]

Well, good thing that it's OSS, else I'd never even consider using it as I wouldn't trust Google. I am still evaluating the situation regarding Google and privacy, so I will wait and see.

I am perfectly fine with Konqueror at the moment, so I most likely won't give it a spin anytime soon now. But it's nice to have an alternative (and seeing Google hitting IE).

[jsast21]

Some IE users don't know that IE is a web browser. Let's not generalize to much. I don't think I've ever met anybody who didn't know that (though I've met many who wasn't aware that there's alternatives to IE).

You've never met my father :-)

As hard as I try he just is not interested in understanding the the how or the why. As long as his laptop turns on, "the internet" comes up when he clicks the big blue e, and his homepage is yahoo mail, he's good.

There are many people like this. I have run across quite a few who have (for example) asked me to help them "fix their internet" when they have deleted the shortcut from their windows desktop, etc.

IMHO Google will not reach this market becuase 'Install a new Browser' or 'Install a new Internet' will not even catch their eye. They will either be too afraid of breaking something, or they will ask, "what's wrong with my old internet? it works fine".

But I love google and am so excited for the linux release. But until then, I will also be trying it in Wine.

[rune0077]

You've never met my father :-)

As hard as I try he just is not interested in understanding the the how or the why. As long as his laptop turns on, "the internet" comes up when he clicks the big blue e, and his homepage is yahoo mail, he's good.

There are many people like this. I have run across quite a few who have (for example) asked me to help them "fix their internet" when they have deleted the shortcut from their windows desktop, etc.


I understand that these people are there, I just don't think they cover a majority of people. You really do get browsers from many sources these days: cell-phones, palms, playstations, etc. As long as these all use different browsers, people who use them also have to accept that the "Internet" can be reached through many more means than just IE. I always end up making this argument, but I think it comes down to a generation thing. Yes fathers, depending on their age and profession, may be in the dark about these things. But little brothers and sisters and the more tech-savvy youth is not going to be so ignorant.

[jsast21]

I understand that these people are there, I just don't think they cover a majority of people. You really do get browsers from many sources these days: cell-phones, palms, playstations, etc. As long as these all use different browsers, people who use them also have to accept that the "Internet" can be reached through many more means than just IE. I always end up making this argument, but I think it comes down to a generation thing. Yes fathers, depending on their age and profession, may be in the dark about these things. But little brothers and sisters and the more tech-savvy youth is not going to be so ignorant.

I totally agree.

[fluteflute]

I saw another one saying that it will be available Sep3 morning PST time
Where did you see that?
The BBC says that (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7593106.stm).

[dhruv_1884]

I might be thinking out loud here but if the code is opensource then isnt it very likely that hackers would start making it native pretty soon and say in a month or so we have a full fledged Linux version

[Hells_Dark]

If it were 18h GMT, it would be already here, isn't it ?

The BBC says that (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7593106.stm).


Chrome will be available for download from the morning of Tuesday 2rd September, PST.

BBC said the 2..

[el mariachi]

it's still 15.20 GMT

[fluteflute]

If it were 18h GMT, it would be already here, isn't it ?
No, its 14:20 GMT now.

[el mariachi]

15.22 with daylight savings or whatever is that thing called :p hehe time is fun

[meborc]

I might be thinking out loud here but if the code is opensource then isnt it very likely that hackers would start making it native pretty soon and say in a month or so we have a full fledged Linux version

google is working on a linux version... i quite like that it is opensource, otherwise i would always be paranoid about google fishing info through chrome... now i have a few hundred thousand code junkies making sure it is not so :D

[Hells_Dark]

hum...so 3 hours remaining ?

[el mariachi]

yes fellas :D

[zmjjmz]

I set the alarm clock.

[OutOfReach]

Aww, I'll be in school when it comes out, well at least I have something to look forward to while I'm in school. :|

[fluteflute]

15.22 with daylight savings or whatever is that thing called :p hehe time is fun
Yeah but BST does not equal GMT. :(

[el mariachi]

'oh' --'
guess we'll all mass download the thing and overload google's servers (get the joke? overload google's servers? I mean.. erm... yeah...not funny)

[Prefix100]

Lol, going to have to run it in wine for me :<

[el mariachi]

and why is that? if they made a native version?

[Bungo Pony]

Is it me, or is it ironic that they release this web browser just before Microsoft releases the final version of IE8?

[lordhaworth]

Originally Posted by Prefix100
Lol, going to have to run it in wine for me :<



Originally Posted By el mariachi
and why is that? if they made a native version?


The one released at 18GMT is a windows version - the linux one wil be coming soon!

To be honest thats prob better - Id rather kill (although the effects may be worse) my old windows laptop

[imgkg]

check this it says at Tuesday at 11 a.m. PDT at mountain view california http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030025-2.html

[el mariachi]

who cares about IE8 here anyway? my dad still uses Ie6 and he's happy -_-
I'll try gchrome on his computer muhahaha

[meborc]

check this it says at Tuesday at 11 a.m. PDT at mountain view california http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030025-2.html

that means 2,5 hours more ;)

[fluteflute]

that means 2,5 hours more ;)
That would tally with 18:00 GMT. Thing is it's so easy for someone to pluck a number out of thin air and everyone else to copy them.

[aysiu]

For those thinking the promises about "working hard" on the Linux version are empty promises, so what?

Since Chrome will be released open source, how difficult would it be for Linux developers to port it to Linux properly?

[el mariachi]

I just want the thing.. NOW! >:@

[lordhaworth]

I reckon itll be pretty good - if it doesnt break anything.
Google have certainly made it out to sound impressive!

And for some reason they dont give me the feeling that theyre an evil uber-corporation monopolising the interslice... Perhaps its that colourful logo (just remembers mac wheel of death!)

Ill be interested to see how it fares

[vishzilla]

wait for another 2 hrs 25 mins ;) i wil test it out in my VBoX

[lordhaworth]

Yeah, I shall also report back my experiences - it will be well worth someone posting the link to the download here once it is available... I'm only going to get in from work bout 6 and would appreciate being able to just come here and get it easily (and see what carnage its caused in the first few minutes)

[Mazza558]

...and this is what it looks like:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/01/first-public-screen-captures-of-google-chrome/

http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/chrome1.jpg

[el mariachi]

doesn't it look like.... simple? :D:D

[lordhaworth]

It certainly looks cool, sounds safe and fast and overall pretty amazing.

If they didnt have the money available I reckon thered be a lot of fuss about the authenticity of their claims - I think google are in a position to make something pretty damn good though

[Mazza558]

doesn't it look like.... simple? :D:D

I'm going to wait and actually see how it performs before singing its praises. If there was a gap in the browser market due to poor options available, I'd be more interested. I'm still going to try it out, but Firefox 3 + Ubiquity is perfect at the moment.

[el mariachi]

ubiquity is cool! I didn't knew about it

[vishzilla]

doesn't it look like.... simple? :D:D

Its still in beta. Wonder how long they will keep this in Beta like GDocs and Gmail

[el mariachi]

knowing google? forever xD

[happysmileman]

Like 15 minutes left AFAIK

[mellowd]

http://www.google.com/chrome

Hmm, server dead because of too many people wanting it already? Or maybe they've yet to put any page up on that site

[kamitsukai]

9min...

[zmjjmz]

1 minute
1 minute

[kamitsukai]

If you search google for "download google chrome" the first page is this link

gears.google.com/chrome/?hl=en

which takes you to the google home page so maybe soon it my be the download location?

[mellowd]

Well it's 6pm and here is the link: http://www.google.com/chrome

But there is nothing there yet!

[happysmileman]

Yup, they're 2 minutes late so far. Might even reboot into Windows if it doesn't run well in Wine

[kamitsukai]

Someone give me a shout when they actually get a download page up...:roll:

[iheartubuntu]

S u c k s !

[mindtrick]

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

[mellowd]

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

bah, of course! I forgot we were on BST at the moment :/

[iheartubuntu]

here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome, it says "The beta release date is scheduled for 18:00 GMT, September 2, 2008."

So Another hour then?

[Mazza558]

This is just like the Firefox 3 launch.

[Steveway]

According to heise.de we still have to wait 1 hour and 51 minutes.

[happysmileman]

<snip>... Only after 6PM do I realise that daylight savings time has screwed me out of an hour of messing around with Chrome

[mrgnash]

Someone mentioned the lack of 'edit' and 'view' being a problem, but I really don't think so :D

http://i37.tinypic.com/10wmrro.png

As you can see, I manage just fine without any of that ;)

[imgkg]

well not sure but according to me its exactly 40 mins remaining as i post this

[el mariachi]

I hate you BST :'( why can't they be normal people and set their times according to daylight savings, like everyone in the world! :'( why google why??

I actually took a nap to make time go faster xD

[Kernel Sanders]

If 11am PDT = 7pm GMT

Then as Britain is currently at GMT+1 we have until 8.00pm to wait?

Am I right?

[happysmileman]

If 11am PDT = 7pm GMT

Then as Britain is currently at GMT+1 we have until 8.00pm to wait?

Am I right?

I'm seen 6PM GMT quoted, and 7PM was said by a UK blogger, so I'm hoping that it'll be just half an hour left

[el mariachi]

we should open a new thread to discuss the marvels that are human time systems

[plun]

Time.org

http://time.org/

:)

[el mariachi]

ok so once and for all
there are exactly 27 minutes left

[plun]

ok so once and for all
there are exactly 27 minutes left

Yup...

Los Angeles
10:33 AM (PDT)
(Daylight Saving)

[imgkg]

if anyone does gets first hand on google chrome please try uploading to some filesharing server if you can and post a link on this forum i guess i wont and like me many others wont be able to download from direct link because my bandwidth is crap and also everyone will be flooding on direct links :-)

[el mariachi]

sure buddy, if google puts that site online

"We'll post an update here as soon as it's ready." no update on the blog, does that means they're using these last 20 minutes to fix some bugs? xD

[Mazza558]

if anyone does gets first hand on google chrome please try uploading to some filesharing server if you can and post a link on this forum i guess i wont and like me many others wont be able to download from direct link because my bandwidth is crap and also everyone will be flooding on direct links :-)

I'll upload it to my dropbox.

[happysmileman]

if anyone does gets first hand on google chrome please try uploading to some filesharing server if you can and post a link on this forum i guess i wont and like me many others wont be able to download from direct link because my bandwidth is crap and also everyone will be flooding on direct links :-)

You won't be able to download from google's servers using a direct link but you can download from other servers?

[kamitsukai]

Cool not long to go!

[fluteflute]

if anyone does gets first hand on google chrome please try uploading to some filesharing server if you can and post a link on this forum i guess i wont and like me many others wont be able to download from direct link because my bandwidth is crap and also everyone will be flooding on direct links :-)
Don't worry. The Google servers will easily handle the load of all the people downloading.

[el mariachi]

4minutes!

[Kernel Sanders]

I'm glad I have windows installed at the moment! Google Chrome FTW! :lol:

[Hells_Dark]

It should be the time ^^'

[el mariachi]

no news anywhere tho...

[Bungo Pony]

Dammit... Where the hell is it?

I'll bet their computer bluescreened while they were putting the page up.

[el mariachi]

that or bill gates is conducting a black op to take over googleplex

[tubasoldier]

Dammit... Where the hell is it?

I'll bet their computer bluescreened while they were putting the page up.

It would serve them right for making it a Windows only beta.

[kamitsukai]

well the bbc newspage doesent mention a time, just tuesday evening...so it will probably be here round 8ish...

[lordhaworth]

Maybe theyre going to tak over all windowz machines

[imgkg]

check this please its saying 14 hours remaining http://www.freechromethemes.com/DownloadGoogleChrome.php

[lordhaworth]

check this please its saying 14 hours remaining http://www.freechromethemes.com/Down...ogleChrome.php


Ahhh what the douce

[el mariachi]

I'm starting to get very anxious.... and I when I get anxious I.... I.... GWWWWWWWWWWAH

[Okar]

where do you have your time from?
on a german website(heise.de) 21 o'clock is mentioned, which is roughly 1 hour to go.

[iheartubuntu]

The only two links I can find (and both dont work) are:

http://gears.google.com/chrome/?hl=en

and...

http://gears.google.com/chrome/eula.html?hl=en

[fluteflute]

Theres someone blogging live from the press conference (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030035-2.html?tag=mncol;title). Could be interesting. And live video/audio though I can't get it to work.

[MJWitter]

Live Blog (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030035-2.html?tag=mncol;posts)
There is a live press conference going on before the launch..

[Hells_Dark]

check this please its saying 14 hours remaining http://www.freechromethemes.com/DownloadGoogleChrome.php

Well it displays more than 17 hours here so ;)

[happysmileman]

check this please its saying 14 hours remaining http://www.freechromethemes.com/DownloadGoogleChrome.php

What, it said September 2nd...

We will be launching the beta version of Google Chrome tomorrow in more than 100 countries.

Posted 9/01/2008 02:10:00 PM on the official google blog...

No matter what time zone you're in, that cannot possibly be in 18 hours

EDIT: Oh by the way, it's counting down to Sep 03, 2008 14:00:00, but the countdown timer doesn't take into account local time, so it's wrong for everyone but those in the same time zone. Either way, google said it would be out today. Not Sept. 3rd at 14:00...

[iheartubuntu]

For all of us that are bored and have read everything we possible can about Google Chrome...

http://blogs.ft.com/techblog/2008/09/top-ten-thoughts-on-google-chrome/

Herewith, 10 initial thoughts on Google’s new Chrome browser, based on its cartoon introduction:

1. Why a cartoon? What happened to the YouTube explanatory video? Are online cartoons the next big thing and is Google Chrome the red herring?

2. It’s a major rethink of the browser and a much more fully formed product than the usual Google beta.

3. Why couldn’t they work with Mozilla on this? Answer: they need more control over the user experience and their ability to serve ads - Microsoft and Mozilla have been taking some of that away with their latest releases.

4. Google makes a lot of solving the problem of browsers crashing when too many tabs are open and a javascript fails to execute- but who, other than superusers, really considers this a problem?

5. This is very OS-like - even down to imitating the Windows operating system Task Manager.

6. There is a fuller integration of Google Gears, making it easier for Google applications and the browser to replace the Windows desktop.

7. The address bar innovation seems aimed at combating Firefox’s similar “awesome” bar, which must have taken some search queries and advertising dollars away from Google.

8. Privacy innovations seem to match Microsoft’s “porn mode” in IE8.

9. Google says it is making the browser open source so others can take advantage of its innovations, but it needs to do so to make other browsers more compliant with its business.

10. Could this comic book be the cue for a geek superhero movie?

[el mariachi]

I'm watching the video conference :D

[Hells_Dark]

http://www.freechromethemes.com/

:D

:p

[Bungo Pony]

Live Blog (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030035-2.html?tag=mncol;posts)
There is a live press conference going on before the launch..

Stupid press conferences always interrupting things; software launches, Saturday morning cartoons, etc.

[lordhaworth]

11:20
"We borrowed code from Firefox"


Could be interesting

[zmjjmz]

I'm watching the video conference :D
Link?
I'll answer those questions later, a lot of them are FUD.

[happysmileman]

I'm watching the video conference :D

Using the links on CNet or is there a stream somewhere else?

[Bungo Pony]

Official wait link:

http://www.freechromethemes.com/DownloadGoogleChrome.php

[el mariachi]

http://google.client.shareholder.com/Visitors/event/build2/MediaPresentation.cfm?MediaID=33101&Player=1#

[el mariachi]

tabs blablabla tabs blablabka

[iheartubuntu]

I dont see any Justin TV live feeds either. :(

[iheartubuntu]

It cant be that much longer... they are chatting in the press conference and taking questions so...

[Bungo Pony]

It cant be that much longer... they are chatting in the press conference and taking questions so...

Well, tell them to shut up and....

...oh wait, you're not actually there :D

[el mariachi]

guys... I'm starting to feel a non-GTK browser here :(

[plun]

Wow... this one also got prOn mode...:twisted:

[iheartubuntu]

I wonder if Google is going to be blocking or redirecting linux users, since a native version for us is not yet available? Im refreshing the google download page in my XP on Virtual Box too, just in case!

[iheartubuntu]

[comment from siddharth]
when can i download this please tell me and where?

answer:

gotta wait, sorry. They say noon pacific

[el mariachi]

it's just a browser.. why are we so excited? xD

[happysmileman]

guys... I'm starting to feel a non-GTK browser here :(

Yeah I've noticed that it's not ugly too.

/me ducks.

[el mariachi]

lol I just hope it fits the rest of my desktop

[Steveway]

Because the avaiable options have deficits that we life/live (however you spell it) with everyday. But now that we know that there is an option that fixes most/all of them our instincts tell us to switch.
Also: Gimme Gimme Gimme, I wanna try it in wine and after that download the source and take a look.
Also afaik it will be avaiable here: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/

[el mariachi]

it's scary actually... this thing looks like a full fledged OS :O

[Hells_Dark]

Yes, me too. The integration is what i fear the most..
We'll have to wait again longer in order to know that.

EDIT : this topic move too fast :P

[darkxman]

Live Chrome Conference

Open stream in mplayer

mms://a1272.l145921768.c1459.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1272/1459/v0001/reflector:21768?sid=92391

[el mariachi]

awwwww little sad tab xD

[Prefix100]

I can't stream the video.

I want to see it!

[el mariachi]

the url darkxman gave works great in mplayer

[Hells_Dark]

mplayer "mms://a1272.l145921768.c1459.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1272/1459/v0001/reflector:21768?sid=92391"

Works fine here ;)

[Hells_Dark]

Double post - remove

[Bungo Pony]

Their logo looks like Simon:

http://www.freechromethemes.com/imgs/Google-Chrome-Browser-Logo.jpg

http://blakeyrat.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/simon.jpg

[el mariachi]

inspiration is everywhere

[Hells_Dark]

Their logo looks like Simon:

http://www.freechromethemes.com/imgs/Google-Chrome-Browser-Logo.jpg

http://blakeyrat.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/simon.jpg

Yep i noticed that before.
Actually i like it ! :)

[darkxman]

Page is live now
http://www.google.com/chrome/?hl=en

Download link still not working.


Download link doesn't work in linux. Download link works fine with windows firefox in wine.

Nope link won't do anything even in wine :(

[el mariachi]

They're filtering us!!!
WHY GOOGLE WHYYYYYYYY

someone download tthrough windows and upload somewhere :D please :hehe

[mrgnash]

Their logo looks like Simon:

http://www.freechromethemes.com/imgs/Google-Chrome-Browser-Logo.jpg



To me it looks like 343 Guilty Spark:

http://i35.tinypic.com/huqbzt.jpg

Perhaps they're going to tout it as the first browser built on forerunner technology? ;)

[Prefix100]

I have it!

I HAVE IT!

I ******* HAVE IT!

USER AGENT SPOOFING FTW.

[fluteflute]

It's here! Remember User Agent Switcher firefox add-on! Installing in Wine...

Edit: Completely fails to install
greg@greg-desktop:~/Desktop$ wine ChromeSetup.exe
fixme:advapi:CheckTokenMembership ((nil) 0x12f6e8 0x33fb50) stub!
fixme:process:SetProcessShutdownParameters (00000280, 00000001): partial stub.
fixme:ole:CoInitializeSecurity ((nil),-1,(nil),(nil),6,2,(nil),64,(nil)) - stub!
fixme:winhttp:WinHttpOpen ((null), 1, (null), (null), 0x0): stub
greg@greg-desktop:~/Desktop$

[Kernel Sanders]

http://www.google.com/chrome

ITS LIVE!!!!

[lswest]

downloaded it from http://www.google.com/chrome (guilty of using windows :P)

:o someone beat me to it :P

[bratao]

It looks like a pokeball to me:
http://ashosonic.com/pokeball.gif

[el mariachi]

oh yeah THANK YOU FIREFOX EXTENSION GODS

[Prefix100]

Wine failed us.

It doesn't work in wine.

[el mariachi]

I'm crying already!
oh wait.. my dad has windows on his laptop

[Hells_Dark]

Failed with wine !

[imgkg]

It looks like a pokeball to me: hehehehe very funny wow google giving us pokemons

[fluteflute]

Mirror (if you can't be bothered with User Agent Switcher): http://www.mediafire.com/?7urgxvvz64r

I reckon Google deliberately sabotaged it in Wine. Just waiting for the code now so we can try that!

[Prefix100]

LETS COMPILE FROM SOURCE.

Focus all efforts to source compiling!

Lets move out!

[Bungo Pony]

It's pretty snappy!

[kamitsukai]

Virtualbox here I come!

[fluteflute]

http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-linux

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is here for Linux! I have the initail code downloaded, its downloading more as we speak.

[Kernel Sanders]

It's ridiculously fast! :shock:

*Uninstalls Firefox*

[Prefix100]

No!

I want it so bad.

This is agonizing for us Linux users who don't have Windows installed, at all.

[aysiu]

1. Why a cartoon? What happened to the YouTube explanatory video? Are online cartoons the next big thing and is Google Chrome the red herring? Why not just a static page you can skim with appropriate bold type for emphasis? I'm impressed with the work Scout McCloud did, but it's not very efficient for getting information across to readers. And most people (i.e., not programmers or power users) will be confused by the third page anyway.


3. Why couldn’t they work with Mozilla on this? Answer: they need more control over the user experience and their ability to serve ads - Microsoft and Mozilla have been taking some of that away with their latest releases. I thought the comic strip made it quite clear they wanted to start from the ground up. The changes they're making are so revolutionary, it'd take too long to change Firefox into that.

4. Google makes a lot of solving the problem of browsers crashing when too many tabs are open and a javascript fails to execute- but who, other than superusers, really considers this a problem? Everyone who uses more than one tab or who has had an error come about from Javascript considers it a problem. They may not know the source of the problem, but people are, of course, bothered by any performance hit.

9. Google says it is making the browser open source so others can take advantage of its innovations, but it needs to do so to make other browsers more compliant with its business. And that's wrong how?

[Mazza558]

Haha! This thing is BLAZING! :)

[Bungo Pony]

It's ridiculously fast! :shock:


That really got me too! I've got it running on crap hardware and it's incredibly responsive.

WinXP
256M RAM
1.2GHz

And it's trying to correct my spelling mistakes!

Oh yeah, and I wrote a fake review in my blog
VVVVV

[mrgnash]

Sounds great. I hope it turns out to be as fast on Linux.

[fiddler616]

AARGH! I haven't used Windows for WEEKS (dual boot), and it died a few days ago, and now I need it. GRRR!
*Takes a few deep breaths*
Google, why oh why didn't you do a simultaneous, all-platform release? It would've made a whole lot less angry Linux users...(well Mac OS too, but "Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centres for adults" --Charlie Brooker)

[szadek_]

it is fast , besides i cant open web pages ... but opening is incredible fast indeed .sad that no linux version ... yet .

[kamitsukai]

It's ridiculously fast! :shock:

*Uninstalls Firefox*

Agreed

Looks fab in Virtualbox's seamless mode

[Mazza558]

This thing is about twice as fast as Opera. I'm very, very impressed.

[zmjjmz]

http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-linux

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is here for Linux! I have the initail code downloaded, its downloading more as we speak.

Have you tried running it yet?

[Hells_Dark]

Well, it's really good (restarted under vista)..
But i'm waiting for a linux version, i wonder (and fear) how will be the interface :/
And i think i will not be in the next few days..

[Bungo Pony]

Anyone figure out how to change the color yet? That blue looks like crap. Transparent would be nice :D

So far, I like how Opera looks better, but I like the speed of Chrome.

[Prefix100]

Hohoho, I've nearly got the Linux version.

[kamitsukai]

Have you tried running it yet?

it says on that page that the browser wont run even if it builds...

Note: If you want to use a Chromium-based browser, you should look elsewhere. Although many Chromium modules build under Linux and a few unit tests pass, nothing actually runs.

[zenkaon]

Of course this will be on Linux, google runs on Linux. gOS is ubuntu with a twist. I'm eagerly awaiting this on the repositories....this should be awesome!!!

I'm going to be running this on my virtual box XP when I get home!!!

[iheartubuntu]

Im using it now in my XP on Virtual Box. Looks nice. Simple. Basic... imported all my Firefox data in a matter of a second or two. Scrolling is quick.

There are two buttons to the right of the input bar... "control the current page" with an icon of a piece of paper w/ folded corner, and also the icon of a wrench titled "customize & control google chrome". Theres not a heck of a lot of options. CTRL+SHFT+N puts you incognito mode... pages you look through there "will not appear in your browser history or search history."

So far I like. Its simple, downloaded my FF links and link bar so Im happy. Too bad they didnt make it able to use Firefoxes apps :)

[fluteflute]

Have you tried running it yet?
It's taking ages downloading phising lists I think.

Hmmm, didn't see that warning at the top. :(

[Hells_Dark]

it says on that page that the browser wont run even if it builds...

nothing actually runs.

Confirmed.

[zmjjmz]

Damn.
TinyXP + VirtualBox here I come...