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days_of_ruin
August 20th, 2008, 09:36 PM
Its the best one I have seen.And it can actually be implemented:D

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/DustTheme

tamoneya
August 20th, 2008, 09:37 PM
i dont see the mockup. I think you forgot to link it.

smartboyathome
August 20th, 2008, 09:52 PM
Theres a brown version on the mailing list which I think would be a better fit.

days_of_ruin
August 20th, 2008, 10:09 PM
Theres a brown version on the mailing list which I think would be a better fit.

Really?I read the list and I haven't seen a brown version.
Unless your talking about Kin Piano which is not the same thing.

arsenic23
August 20th, 2008, 10:13 PM
Needs a little more brown, and orange icons, otherwise I kinda like it.

smartboyathome
August 20th, 2008, 10:14 PM
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2008-August/007462.html

Theres the message with the link.

Joeb454
August 20th, 2008, 10:18 PM
If you have actually made this theme, I would download and use it.

I still put the obligatory mac answer ;)

OutOfReach
August 20th, 2008, 10:23 PM
It looks good, I would actually use it, but as arsenic said it would need some brown and orange, as those are Ubuntu's theme colors.

days_of_ruin
August 21st, 2008, 12:44 AM
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2008-August/007462.html

Theres the message with the link.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/concept.png

Thanks.That looks good.Although the transparent border is not possible.

smartboyathome
August 21st, 2008, 01:46 AM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/concept.png

Thanks.That looks good.Although the transparent border is not possible.

The border doesn't have to be transparent. That part is easily changeable so it isn't transparent, and it will still look great imo. :)

genesis2seven
August 21st, 2008, 03:17 AM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/concept.png

Thanks.That looks good.Although the transparent border is not possible.

Not a huge fan of the brown. Something a bit less drab would be nice.

lyceum
August 21st, 2008, 04:16 AM
I am not saying I do not like it. I think it looks like a cross between Mac and Vista without looking as good. I think it is on the right track, but needs to be more individual and better looking.

Shippou
August 21st, 2008, 04:27 AM
Yes! This should be Ubuntu's new face! (even though it looks like a mac)
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LarsKongo
August 21st, 2008, 07:02 AM
The border doesn't have to be transparent. That part is easily changeable so it isn't transparent, and it will still look great imo. :)
Actually it does need to be transparent if you want to use another wallpaper with other colors than brown/black/orange. The major thing that's so bad with brown is that it doesn't look good combined with any other colors than brown, black, and orange.

About the theme. It looks really nice. It does reminds me a little bit of a mac, but maybe that's because of the Aurora engine. Buttons and text intput should be transparent, just look at the google page. Scrollbar looks a bit flat too.

Orlsend
August 21st, 2008, 07:17 AM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/concept.png

Thanks.That looks good.Although the transparent border is not possible.
Awesome Just What i need for my Ubuntu....now I wait....

airtonix
August 21st, 2008, 10:18 AM
original link : me likes very much. me wants.

one thing : System -> Preferences -> Appearance [Customise] -> Colours
- The theme needs to honour the colour variables that this control set manipulates. Then it does not matter if you don't like brown....you will be able to change it.

k99goran
August 21st, 2008, 11:32 AM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/concept.png
They are both very well designed, and they look compact (which I like).
However, I would like to see a few changes (concerning the brown one).

1. Brighten up the whole theme a bit and add some lighter tones.
2. Reduce the saturation. Look how well the icons blend with the more neutral coloring of the theme "Dust". Keep it warm and "Ubuntu-ish" though.
3. Remove that eye-sore of a wallpaper. Dark understated brown and brain-splittingly sharp red/orange doesn't mix well. Look at the wallpaper used in "Dust" as an example of very nice eye-pleasing earth tones.

Apart from the points above, I would very much like to see something similar to this as the default in Ibex.

Lexicon101
August 21st, 2008, 05:07 PM
I might be the only one, but I got sick of the brown the first day. Went out and got a new theme. Now, while I'm sure it'd be a matter of resetting the default theme in the appearance window, I really have no clue what that looks like. It looked like something some nerd in the 70s made, and it's ugly.

(.. Yes, I did just contradict myself.)

xakh
August 21st, 2008, 07:54 PM
in all honesty, Ownage. Especially for GNOME, it looks great, even without the border.

bobbybobington
August 23rd, 2008, 03:21 AM
What I like:
*Subtle Gradients
Subtle gradients give the theme a nice polished look without being too flashy. It also avoids making the theme look too flat like older themes.

*Color
This theme is a good example of dark themes done right. Window borders are kept to minimum, taking out the sides, reducing contrast with bright colored content. Contrast is also reduced by using a lighter gray instead of dark-gray within windows

*Font
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the font looks like Lucida Sans, one of my favorites. The Font is used by Apple a lot, so this could be a problem.

What needs work:
*Main Menu
The Ubuntu icon needs to be used in the main menu, it is an important part of identifying the system as Ubuntu. This is an easy fix.

*Icons
I think it is time to move beyond tango, imo tango looks a little dated.
An updated human theme or a customized Oxygen would be a good place to start.

*Background
There is nothing wrong with the background in the screenshot, but the background that is shipped with Ibex must go well with this theme. It is just something to keep in mind.

Overall: Awesome!!!!!1

digitalis_vulgaris
August 23rd, 2008, 11:46 AM
It's looking nice. You have skills with shapes and colors. Theme has good african spirit which is expected for Ubuntu OS.
I dislike size of buttons. Especially size of window control buttons on title bar. In close future support for touch screen will be a standard feature for OS, so stretch all buttons to be at least 40px wide.

Jordanwb
August 23rd, 2008, 05:54 PM
I like it

days_of_ruin
August 24th, 2008, 01:12 AM
Just want to make it clear.I didn't make any of these mockups.

V for Vincent
August 24th, 2008, 10:33 AM
It does look good. I don't really care about this or any other theme being default in II (I actually think people are way too focused on that - they should just go on developing what they think looks good), but if it's fully implemented, I'll download it.

Ub1476
August 24th, 2008, 10:53 AM
I like the brown Firefox mockup.. And the Dust theme of course, but it doesn't fit Ubuntu colours. Could be used as an optional theme though.

irrdev
August 24th, 2008, 11:34 AM
Hmmm... I would go for a compromise between the Firefox mockup and the Dust theme. There definitely needs to be some orange highlights to match Ubuntu, and I don't think the buttons should be mac spinoffs. I really like the contrast, however, and the high level of professionalism. I hope a theme comes out of these mockups!

durand
August 24th, 2008, 08:14 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/concept.png

Thanks.That looks good.Although the transparent border is not possible.

Transparent border will soon be possible. Metacity in intrepid has a compositor.

Joe_Bishop
August 24th, 2008, 08:28 PM
I hope, it won't. But author can make this blacky crap his default theme.

Merk42
August 24th, 2008, 08:49 PM
I hope, it won't. But author can make this blacky crap his default theme.

What don't you like about it? You're entitled not to, of course, since finding a default theme everyone likes is impossible, but saying 'blacky crap' isn't constructive criticism.

Joe_Bishop
August 24th, 2008, 09:52 PM
I don't care about "constructivness". The idea is default theme should be more bright, not so black (and not like the brown S H I T from previous alphas).

MadsRH
August 24th, 2008, 10:42 PM
... saying 'blacky crap' isn't constructive criticism.

+1 [-X

It is possible to express your dislike without the use of condescending words.

//MadsRH

Joeb454
August 24th, 2008, 10:44 PM
Transparent border will soon be possible. Metacity in intrepid has a compositor.

So does Metacity in Hardy, it's just not enabled by default

Merk42
August 25th, 2008, 01:02 AM
I don't care about "constructivness". The idea is default theme should be more bright, not so black (and not like the brown S H I T from previous alphas).

But if the only word you can use is a synonym for fecal matter, the person doing the art won't know what direction to take it.

This post was a bit better, when you stated it "should be more bright". Which is not 'the idea', merely 'your idea', still valid though. However you then went on to write that part in the parenthesis, and I lost all respect for your post.

k99goran
August 25th, 2008, 07:34 AM
What don't you like about it? You're entitled not to, of course, since finding a default theme everyone likes is impossible, but saying 'blacky crap' isn't constructive criticism.
Be that as it may, regular users are not going to be constructive. If the theme looks like fecal matter on their monitors they are not going to think "this could use some more yellow", they are more likely going to think "this looks like ****".

I think the main problem with dark brown is that it really only looks good on matte LCD's. Move over to glossy screens, and it's just too much.

Xanavi
August 25th, 2008, 11:34 AM
This may sound retarded but I have no idea how to install the dust theme to try out. What is all needed and how to install?


:confused:

Crafty Kisses
August 25th, 2008, 11:41 AM
Looks good I guess, I think lighter colors would be cool though.

rondackcpu
August 25th, 2008, 01:21 PM
I really like this theme. I would begin using it today, if I could.

In trying to get something close to it, as wallpaper. I found a photo of some pinkish-brown quartzite rocks on a site selling rocks to the industry. I continued with the dark brown/tan idea where-ever I was able to customize the "Clearlooks" theme. But, of course, it's only an imitation. I did find the Dust-0.tar.gz and Dust-1.tar.gz packages, but as somewhat of a noob, I, too, don't have a clue what to do with the code in either of those. A copy of the original wallpaper photo would be appreciated, too.

Thanks in advance for any help you may send.

CRS

graabein
August 25th, 2008, 01:33 PM
I like it quite a lot. Make it in white/silver and tan/brown also. Maybe a tan/orange whatever can be default and the black be a choice. Overall it looks good but I think I've read that the Aurora engine won't be default so that could be a problem...

belovedmonster
August 25th, 2008, 02:13 PM
The dust theme is very popular on Digg...
http://digg.com/linux_unix/A_really_sexy_Ubuntu_theme_that_is_actually_possib le

morgengenuss
August 26th, 2008, 11:28 AM
i like the theme quite a lot.

and i understand that some people think it's mac-ish. at least for the icons (e.g. the folder icons look very much like leopard). the rest of the theme doesn't seem so mac-ish to me.

i tried the aurora theme sketch, but it really seems to be a mere sketch up to now. at least in xfce it doesn't work that well (panel doesn't have a dark color, firefox-bookmarktoolbar-buttons are not readable, etc). i guess i would do an xfwm4-version of the metacity-theme but at the moment it doesn't seem to make much sense.

days_of_ruin
August 26th, 2008, 03:34 PM
I really like this theme. I would begin using it today, if I could.

In trying to get something close to it, as wallpaper. I found a photo of some pinkish-brown quartzite rocks on a site selling rocks to the industry. I continued with the dark brown/tan idea where-ever I was able to customize the "Clearlooks" theme. But, of course, it's only an imitation. I did find the Dust-0.tar.gz and Dust-1.tar.gz packages, but as somewhat of a noob, I, too, don't have a clue what to do with the code in either of those. A copy of the original wallpaper photo would be appreciated, too.

Thanks in advance for any help you may send.

CRS

Unpack it inside your /home/youruser/.themes
One of those uses aurora (I don't think that one could be included since
aurora is too slow) and the other uses murrine-svn which isn't installed
by default.Google how to install that.

k99goran
August 26th, 2008, 06:54 PM
I must say, this theme is shaping up very nicely.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/DustTheme?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ibexconcept-thumb.jpg (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/DustTheme?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=ibexconcept.jpg)

I also love the wallpaper. The "goat" is very well done (coming from someone who doesn't like the idea of having a goat as wallpaper) and I like the idea of using wood as background. Whatever artwork the art-team decides to go with in the end, I hope this rico-ambiescent fellow is part of the process. He clearly knows what he's doing.

I vote "yes". :-)

digitalis_vulgaris
August 27th, 2008, 08:33 AM
Orange icons for folders make logical connection with older Ubuntu style. I recommend that new icons have same colors like an old ones.

Dark gray theme is very nice. It gives neutral background for work, as OS theme should be. I only dislike wideness of buttons. Buttons are to narrow. Ubuntu theme should follow new trends and IT development. It should be useful for touch screen monitors. I recommend to use wider buttons, especially window control buttons on title bar (as Vista has). Buttons for touch screens should be at least 40px or 20mm.

New background concept is very fresh. This could be direction to give Ubuntu stronger personality. It would be good to open competition for new Ubuntu background. More people involved - more ideas.

graabein
August 27th, 2008, 08:47 AM
I must say, this theme is shaping up very nicely.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/DustTheme?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ibexconcept-thumb.jpg (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/DustTheme?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=ibexconcept.jpg)

I also love the wallpaper. The "goat" is very well done (coming from someone who doesn't like the idea of having a goat as wallpaper) and I like the idea of using wood as background. Whatever artwork the art-team decides to go with in the end, I hope this rico-ambiescent fellow is part of the process. He clearly knows what he's doing.

I like the wood wallpaper also. Maybe not the stain in the lower right hand corner though, but overall it would make Ubuntu stand out from default XP, Vista, OS X and Fedora etc.

One thing I don't like in that shot is the grey background image in Nautilus and the bland orange folder icons. There's got to be better looking folder icons if that icon theme is picked as default. Maybe something resembling an old favourite of mine, Still Life (http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/1111) by theturner.

uBeer
August 27th, 2008, 09:14 AM
I must say, this theme is shaping up very nicely.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/DustTheme?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ibexconcept-thumb.jpg (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/DustTheme?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=ibexconcept.jpg)

I also love the wallpaper. The "goat" is very well done (coming from someone who doesn't like the idea of having a goat as wallpaper) and I like the idea of using wood as background. Whatever artwork the art-team decides to go with in the end, I hope this rico-ambiescent fellow is part of the process. He clearly knows what he's doing.

I vote "yes". :-)

I really like this dark theme. I tried to make a dark theme this week, but that's a tough thing to do. This looks very good.
And if not the theme: the wallpaper is simply amazing! It's the best I've seen of all the mock-ups! It's probably not available as an svg, that might be a problem, but otherwise this would be it :D Too bad that we can't download this wallpaper yet...

Web Design Company
August 27th, 2008, 12:53 PM
I like it.

stokedfish
August 27th, 2008, 12:55 PM
it's amazing. but it's gnome. ewww.

graabein
August 27th, 2008, 04:02 PM
[-o< Please supply wallpapers! [-o<

Most everyone in this thread like the wallpapers. Can someone (OP?) please post links to them? I'll try to look around deviantart (http://www.deviantart.com/) and interfacelift (http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/downloads/date/any/) but that's a long shot.

Update: I found one here (http://oliuss.deviantart.com/art/Wood-Wallpaper-2-87623810) called Wood Wallpaper 2 by ~Oliuss, but it's not among the screenshots.

Update: Thanks for the link k99goran! Ibex Wallpaper by ~willwill100 here (http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Ibex-Wallpaper-94885227).

k99goran
August 27th, 2008, 05:59 PM
Update: I found one here (http://oliuss.deviantart.com/art/Wood-Wallpaper-2-87623810) called Wood Wallpaper 2 by ~Oliuss, but it's not among the screenshots.
Thanks for the link. A similar wallpaper is used in this mockup (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Wall-light).
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs31/300W/i/2008/215/0/b/Interpid_Ibex_Mockup_Part_2_by_willwill100.png (http://willwill100.deviantart.com/gallery/)

It's nice to see wallpapers where the shadows cast by windows actually make sense.

Ub1476
August 27th, 2008, 06:35 PM
Anyone who wants their theme included in Intrepid most send a mail to Kenneth Wimer. I think the Dust theme needs a place in here. :)

Mailing list post (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2008-August/007544.html)

Anyway here's my opinions of the Dust theme:

Nautilus panel on the left (locations/tree/info) looks flat and out of place. Themes such as Clearlooks Brave has done this pretty good, but still not perfect. That might just be how Nautilus is though..

Red/orange color is nice in Pidgin, but is not very easy to read otherwise (black font looks better than white on orange/red)

Scrollbars a bit boring (I loved those in the first mockup).

Desktop-switcher applet is not visible enough.

Rhythmbox looks kinda bad, I'm sure you know what I mean if you see.

Default font color is a bit too much gray.

xdarkday
August 28th, 2008, 08:10 AM
I like my setup
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t206/xdarkday/th_Screenshot-3.png (http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t206/xdarkday/Screenshot-3.png)

Crafty Kisses
August 28th, 2008, 09:17 AM
Has the author made a lighter version yet?

belovedmonster
August 28th, 2008, 07:06 PM
I really do hope Canonical show they aren't completely hapless and seriously consider the Dust theme. The new additions to the mockups show that there is scope for the theme to retain elements of orange and the earthy tones while retaining the sexy look of the original mock up.

I mean to me its completely, utterly obvious that if Ubuntu shipped with something like Dust all the tech sites from Ars Technica to Cnet would comment how sexy Ubuntu is and would hail it as being a proper alternative to Windows, and I know across the land on forums and on Digg people would say how much nicer Ubuntu looks and how they are considering switching now.

I just worry that who ever is making the choices won't have the dangly bits to make the change. :( But then again, they were supposed to change the theme last time and they never did, they can't not change the theme again, the only question is what they change it to.

irrdev
August 29th, 2008, 09:57 AM
I really do hope Canonical show they aren't completely hapless and seriously consider the Dust theme. The new additions to the mockups show that there is scope for the theme to retain elements of orange and the earthy tones while retaining the sexy look of the original mock up.

I mean to me its completely, utterly obvious that if Ubuntu shipped with something like Dust all the tech sites from Ars Technica to Cnet would comment how sexy Ubuntu is and would hail it as being a proper alternative to Windows, and I know across the land on forums and on Digg people would say how much nicer Ubuntu looks and how they are considering switching now.

I just worry that who ever is making the choices won't have the dangly bits to make the change. :( But then again, they were supposed to change the theme last time and they never did, they can't not change the theme again, the only question is what they change it to.

I totally agree. Add a few brown hues to the Dusty theme to please the Ubuntu devs, and I believe that it should be a go. Oh, and the buttons could also look a bit less mac-like. One other problem that exists is that the current Dusty theme requires either the Aurora or Murrine SVN theme engines. I am not sure if the devs are prepared to go with the SVN version of Murrine, although it is supposed to be quite stable. Even so, the Dusty theme offers nice contrast, polish and lots of potential for the future. It seriously deserves to make it into Ibex.=D>

smartboyathome
August 29th, 2008, 05:20 PM
Another version of the mockup has arrived, but it requires compositing as well. See here (http://raraken.deviantart.com/art/Kin-Dust-Live-96257933).

k99goran
August 29th, 2008, 06:49 PM
Another version of the mockup has arrived, but it requires compositing as well. See here (http://raraken.deviantart.com/art/Kin-Dust-Live-96257933).

Ehh... I prefer his older stuff.

smartboyathome
August 29th, 2008, 06:55 PM
It is based on dust (a heavily modified dust) from the dust theme based on murrine. It is like dust but with different colors (more ubuntu-ish colors).

jespdj
August 29th, 2008, 10:29 PM
I like the fonts and the graphics, but the colors are too dark. And yes, the icons in the top right corner look to much like Mac OS X.

Monstroxus
September 2nd, 2008, 09:29 AM
I dislike the open/close button, too outdated. A simple "X" encircled.. ewww... I always liked the ones used in xubuntu. Or many others... but not a n encircled "X", please. I also think they have to ditch the brown.. go for a light theme or a dark one (black/dark grey with orange)... both options offered during install. (for the newbies)For some people hate dark colour schemes.

conorsulli
September 2nd, 2008, 11:35 AM
Its the best one I have seen.And it can actually be implemented:D

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/DustTheme

I like it!! and the brown folder icon is superb!! not so childish and dated like the human theme. however the close,minimize,maximize buttons are uncomfortably small and odd... but good progress none the less.

conorsulli
September 2nd, 2008, 11:38 AM
I really do hope Canonical show they aren't completely hapless and seriously consider the Dust theme. The new additions to the mockups show that there is scope for the theme to retain elements of orange and the earthy tones while retaining the sexy look of the original mock up.

I mean to me its completely, utterly obvious that if Ubuntu shipped with something like Dust all the tech sites from Ars Technica to Cnet would comment how sexy Ubuntu is and would hail it as being a proper alternative to Windows, and I know across the land on forums and on Digg people would say how much nicer Ubuntu looks and how they are considering switching now.

I just worry that who ever is making the choices won't have the dangly bits to make the change. :( But then again, they were supposed to change the theme last time and they never did, they can't not change the theme again, the only question is what they change it to.

BUMP! he is completely right. took the words out my mouth!

k99goran
September 2nd, 2008, 02:06 PM
I like it!! and the brown folder icon is superb!! not so childish and dated like the human theme. however the close,minimize,maximize buttons are uncomfortably small and odd... but good progress none the less.
I like the new button (where's the rest of them?) used.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/DustTheme?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=dust-brown.png

By the way... the creeps over at Linux Action Show just made a rant about the Ubuntu theme. May be worth a listen. link (http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/?p=95)

hoanglong1712
September 2nd, 2008, 02:13 PM
in the fact, i think that we should use blue colour instead of brown or orange, these colour make my eyes hurt, i love ubuntu but i cannot stand that minor effect, i hope you could let the user chances to choose the theme colour

durand
September 2nd, 2008, 04:36 PM
I dislike the open/close button, too outdated. A simple "X" encircled.. ewww... I always liked the ones used in xubuntu. Or many others... but not a n encircled "X", please. I also think they have to ditch the brown.. go for a light theme or a dark one (black/dark grey with orange)... both options offered during install. (for the newbies)For some people hate dark colour schemes.

The elive cd gives you two options at the grub menu: night and day themes. Depending on what you select, every part of the elive cd changes in looks, which is really cool.

Jackelope
September 4th, 2008, 07:32 PM
This theme is sweet...and for once looks doable with the current engines. For all the beautiful mock ups, they always loose something in translation to reality. But I could see this one working just fine as a real theme. I'd definitely use this as my default, though I voted maybe since there are a lot of really classy ideas out there :)

matdombrock
September 4th, 2008, 11:48 PM
Looks good, but a little dark. The 8.04 theme was a little too light though.