Need new and better video editing programs

[Kenjitamura]

So I went looking for a hobby, i enjoy watching AMV's and the open source community has never let me down so i thought "I'll use a linux native program to create amv's". I start to look for video editing programs and kdenlive drops in my lap. Seems to be perfect, looks a lot like imovie, problem: constant crashes under any form of stress. So I look deeper and i find cinelerra, it opens up and i think im looking at a 3d design programs sibling, hard to use and doesn't have very well image-video combo options. I look further and find Open Video Editing, i take from repo and everytime i hit the icon nothing happens, start it from commandline and i get an error which is solved by a symbolic link, easy enough. I start the program and it looks ok but after i put in a jpg and audio file and hit play...nothing happens. No playback. Finally, I looked into pitivi but that also was a dead end, forgot the reason though as ive been trying different forms of installing all these programs hoping to get them to work all day lol. My last and only hope is Lumiera (http://lumiera.org/development.html). I thought that linux had beaten windows in everything but our video editing is pitiful. Need a powerful simple video editor. Underlay video clips with containers like avi,mkv, mpg, mp4 with audio like mp3. Guess I'll put my hobby search on hold, really the only program ive liked so far is kdenlive and it seems to have the worst compatibility. Message to Developers: If you can somehow add to this project that'd be much appreciated :D Im not sure if i'll ever be a developer but im not quite there yet.

[crazyness003]

Here are some other suggestions (havent really ised them myself)

Kino
Open Movie Editor
Stopmotion

they come preinstalled with Ubuntu Studio, but im sure their debs are in the repos somewhere

[Amazona aestiva]

LIVES (http://lives.sourceforge.net/)

[unoodles]

If you really want crazy, use blender. It is a program for 3D modelling/animation, but it also has a very powerful video sequencer.

[Kenjitamura]

I've tried LiVE. It booted me back to the login when i tried to cancel one of its import (going at 20 fps or so importing out of 170k). I also dont like the lack of a timeline. I think all I can really do is try and force kdenlive to work, wait on Lumiera, or (gulp) switch to windows. Probably not going to have much luck on kdenlive, great concepts but its so unstable i dont understand how its still being supported.

[paulmerchant]

I second Blender. Just do a few tutorials on the general GUI and then learn the sequence editor. Big Buck Bunny can't be wrong. Audio is kind of limited though (you can use Ardour or Audacity) and you won't have much media management (keep clips well organized on your disk).