learn Linux programming

[ryclegman]

Hello,

I was wondering if there was a program out on the internet or something that could teach you how to Program a Linux, create a distro and things like that.
I would like to learn but don't know where to start...

[Kadrus]

Ive posted on the other thread but here it goes anyway.
RockLinux (http://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Main_Page):ROCK Linux is a Linux distribution Build Kit.It was created for making your own Linux distributions.
LinuxFromScratch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_From_Scratch):Linux from scratch..read it
there is a tool that helps you create your own distro from an iso image,i forogt its name..i will post it later.

[ryclegman]

I have been looking for a while now and i dont think you can download rock linux?

[lisati]

I have been looking for a while now and i dont think you can download rock linux?

Check out http://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Download

[Kadrus]

found the program again..i forgot his name.
Reconstructor. (http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/)

[pmasiar]

a program out on the internet or something that could teach you how to Program a Linux, create a distro and things like that.
I would like to learn but don't know where to start...

0) Always start at wikipedia and google :-)

1) there is not such a thing as "program Linux". Linux is just a kernel of operating system, most of it's utilities provided by GNU. It consists of hundreds or thousands of packages, all written in different languages.

2) Google for "how to create a linux distro", you will found dozens of guides

3) you will need to become quite expert in Linux administration, which is orthogonal to programming IMHO.

[ryclegman]

when i go to download the rock linux i get "Can't find torrent file!"

[jimi_hendrix]

0) Always start at wikipedia and google :-)

1) there is not such a thing as "program Linux". Linux is just a kernel of operating system, most of it's utilities provided by GNU. It consists of hundreds or thousands of packages, all written in different languages.

2) Google for "how to create a linux distro", you will found dozens of guides

3) you will need to become quite expert in Linux administration, which is orthogonal to programming IMHO.

for numbers 0 and 2 i have tried this many times and found nothing...this thread is a great help btw and i bookmarked it

sorry for thread hijacking but 1 question...besided the windows manager (gnome, kde, xfce etc) and packages they come with whats the difference between distros

[Kadrus]

for numbers 0 and 2 i have tried this many times and found nothing...this thread is a great help btw and i bookmarked it
Maybe you didn't search correctly,Google never disappoint.

besided the windows manager (gnome, kde, xfce etc)
Those are Desktop Environments

Each distro is designed for a specific purpose(well almost each one),they differ in installation,configuration,speed,compatibility,use ,package management,and philosophy.

[jimi_hendrix]

Maybe you didn't search correctly,Google never disappoint.


Those are Desktop Environments

Each distro is designed for a specefic purpose(well almost each one),they differ in installation,configuration,speed,compaibility,use, package management,and philosophy.

no acually i searched before with the exact words pmaiser said

and with the installation configuration use package managment and compatabillity thing...my friend who got me on linux uses PC linux and when i look at his it looks exactly like kubuntu

[Kadrus]

Well it's because it uses KDE.doesn't mean it's like Kubuntu.
A desktop Environment is not an OS.

[jimi_hendrix]

i realize that but other then some things like programs it comes with (like i believe it had a program to browse internet connections) i didnt see a difference

[Kadrus]

Well if a program can work in one Linux distro,it can work with all distros(most likely)..
Download Gentoo for example,install it and use it,and you will see the difference between gentoo and ubuntu.
The best way to compare a distro to others,is to install it and try it yourself.
edit:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_vs_Others
This is a comparison of arch linux with other distributions.

[jimi_hendrix]

if i install it then i either lose one of my partitions or i have to re partition my hard drive and im running out of room...any simpilar way?

[Kadrus]

Virtual Machine.

[slavik]

different distributions call different things different names and work differently.

Some of the differences between Debian and RedHat:
- the start up is different
- Debian: apache, RedHat: httpd
- Debian: apache virtual host config, a2ensite, etc., RedHat: the old (1.3) style of doing things (single config file, etc.)
- Debian: apt/dpkg, RedHat: yum/rpm -- THIS IS THE BIG ONE!!!
- patches for packages are different

[Kadrus]

no acually i searched before with the exact words pmaiser said

Well these are a few results from googling:create your own linux distro
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
http://www.rpath.com/corp/
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-lfs/
http://hehe2.net/linuxhowto/create-your-own-linux-distro/
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/06/0714200
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7233
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=byo
http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=205917063
Everyone one of these links deal with this subject.

[jimi_hendrix]

ok last thing...virtual machine...how do you do that

also when i googled what he said i got a load of things pointing me to LFS and i believe i need a book for LFS

[Kadrus]

go to the lfs website and read the documentations(it's there to help you figure out everything you need)
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582729
read this thread above.
You can run any OS(except OS X i think,unless it's hacked,hackintosh),in a virtual box,without messing with your partition,or dual booting.

[pmasiar]

no acually i searched before with the exact words pmaiser said

and you found wikipedia articles, read them, tried to follow links, and still do not understand? Including "external links" at the bottom?

Then try http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Linux maybe that would help you :-)

BTW it is 'pmasiar' ;-)

[jimi_hendrix]

sorry about that

[jimi_hendrix]

well in that uncyclopedia link i have not found the linux programing thing yet (i am still looking though) but i have found that tux is a traitor to the penguin race due to his betray of a penguin army during the great penguin war against barny...are you sure this is a valid source of facts?

[Kadrus]

No,just funny jokes.
Never take it seriously there.
In Russia,Linux installs you.

[jimi_hendrix]

lol...basically ive learned that penguins + chicken nuggets > barny + bob the builder + ronald mcdonald + children

ive also learned that tux is a mortal enemy of super mega jesus...remind me to put that in my kernel code when i write it

[pmasiar]

are you sure [uncyclopedia] is a valid source of facts?

Definitely NOT!

But it is fun to read, when are you bored reading real wikipedia. You did read 'Linux' and 'kernel' pages?

[jimi_hendrix]

i read the linux page and the tux page