Will Ubuntu/Linux ever get a decent video editor?

[xeriouxi]

Hi!

I've used Ubuntu for a good month or so now and I haven't needed to boot back into my Windows (Vista) installation as of yet. There's only one thing stopping me from using it full-time though and that's mainly the lack of a good video editor.

I have tried the recommended Kino but it's nowhere near the level of functionality in terms of actual editing in my eyes, especially for the support of formats.

I use Premiere Pro CS3 on Vista and I feel that's one of the most well known editors. I know Adobe aren't really showing much of an interest in Linux in terms of getting it's software to the platform, so I wonder if anyone knows if the Linux community will get a decent video editor at some point?

I get the feeling it might be due to licensing issues with certain proprietary formats and so on, but I think this is still one of the most annoying things about trying to get rid of Windows once and for all. I know free software is important and almost everything I use on my system is free, but some things just can't be done for free with all the patents etc. floating around, which is why not having any commercial editors for the Linux platform is pretty bad.

Does anyone know of any other companies that deal in video editing, like Corel, that have any plans to get their applications on Linux? I know music creation is also a bit of a bland spot too with me using Reason 4 a lot, but surely now that the community is picking up slowly but surely companies have to start trying it out as an option, right? =(

[Stochastic]

There is significant work being done in the open source video editing field. It's not really ready for prime time just yet, but I imagine it will be very soon.

As for the adobe software on Linux, Wine is making valiant attempts to get the entire CS fleet runnable on Linux.

In the meantime, many people swear by Blender's video editing, but it does take some getting used to.

[mondoUNC]

Have you tried Cinelerra? Its a little more powerful then Kino or blender. Its similar to higher end compositing video editors like Final Cut or Premier. It leaves a little to be desired but Its the best I've found so far.

A tutorial for hardy on Ubuntu unleashed. (http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/05/howto-install-cinerella-video-editor.html)

[tilllt]

i have been asking this question for the last 8 years... i am a professional editor and i'd love to have a linux alternative. so far there is ... nothing. sorry but for serious work cinelerra is a joke. the problem for the developer as i see it is, that the "basics" are already a LOT to do. i am usually a bit annoyed by the fact that the programs usually dont do the basics but yet have nifty effect and compostiting options which are usually not essential in a film / video workflow. there are other things you have to take care of which is guess are not trivial but also not so "sexy" from a programming point of view

- Accuracy (Media Files can never be lost, Media Management has to be transparent, The System has to be 100% Timecode Accurate, A/V has always to be in Sync, No frames (not ONE) can be lost during playout or digitze) - You know that this is the reason people in Television still buy Avid instead of Final Cut?

- The Sound part of the editing program is almost as complex as Audacity itself i guess

- Project Exchange (OMF/AAF/EDL) - very important but usually neglected by Linux A/V Applications (even by Ardour)

[eye208]

Blender has been used to edit projects on a professional level (i.e. for cinema, HD-DVD, Blu-ray).

[Creative2]

before to understand how to use blender i said the samething ...
after with some patiance i have studied a bit blender and now i have to say i have my video editor stable with full support for every formats ..

blender is my video editor , and kdenlive

[m005k]

Could I get pointed to how to's on Editing video in Blender? Would it be in the manual or a tutorial?

Mike

[IanW]

Could I get pointed to how to's on Editing video in Blender? Would it be in the manual or a tutorial?

Mike

Google is your friend:-
Blender Wiki - Video Sequence Editing (http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Manual/Video_Sequence_Editing)

[1nakata]

Not anytime soon cause adobe is sure not going to put their development time into getting premiere on it natively, They do have their Windows and Mac versions to take care of. Plus I am not sure if Linux on the Desktop has reached the critical mass for developing a commercial product.

I am not sure if Cinelerra is production ready but it looks like a nice app to play around if you are doing a home movie. There is also those HD codecs issues to resolve and ubunutu needs to support those natively first.

I did some googling and there are Production Ready Video Editors on Linux but its not in the Final Cut Pro, Vegas Pricing range and mostly used by big studios.

Autodesk Smoke (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=5561833)
IFX Pirana (http://www.ifx.com/products)

I am hoping for something like the new iMove HD for OSX on ubuntu then Linux, maybe it might make more switch?

[mendax]

Give a chance to the all new Cinelerra 4 from Heroine Virtual. It's just released with a couple of fixes and additions. They have install ready .debs for Ubuntu 8.04 on their site for 32 and 64 bit computers.

[roffemuffe]

i have been asking this question for the last 8 years... i am a professional editor and i'd love to have a linux alternative. so far there is ... nothing. sorry but for serious work cinelerra is a joke. the problem for the developer as i see it is, that the "basics" are already a LOT to do. i am usually a bit annoyed by the fact that the programs usually dont do the basics but yet have nifty effect and compostiting options which are usually not essential in a film / video workflow. there are other things you have to take care of which is guess are not trivial but also not so "sexy" from a programming point of view

- Accuracy (Media Files can never be lost, Media Management has to be transparent, The System has to be 100% Timecode Accurate, A/V has always to be in Sync, No frames (not ONE) can be lost during playout or digitze) - You know that this is the reason people in Television still buy Avid instead of Final Cut?

- The Sound part of the editing program is almost as complex as Audacity itself i guess

- Project Exchange (OMF/AAF/EDL) - very important but usually neglected by Linux A/V Applications (even by Ardour)

I totally agree to this. I am a professional editor for a national television news-corporation.

It is so important 'stupid' mistakes don't take up your time. Which is why we still use Avid at work. As a news editor, I rarely use these fancy features, but need a streamlined interface.
As I see it, as a professional, many features are not intended for professional use (except the good wipes in Star Wars :)).

[Hello71]

Bump. I also want a decent video editor. Blender takes too long to master, and Cinelerra has problems installing.

[jadhav333]

Looks like, we are all stuck between Blender Video, Cinelerra, Kino,... Each with its pros and cons and None close to the quality that the other apps such as Avid, Premiere, Final Cut... provides.

Thats it!

So all we do is wait and watch and keep asking questions as to why is Linux not a mainstream app for professional artists... atleast for some more time to come.

Hey, am I sounding sarcastic. my apologies :P

[gali98]

Bump. I also want a decent video editor. Blender takes too long to master, and Cinelerra has problems installing.

Well in arguement of blender, do you think you could just pick up something like avid and start using it effectively?
No.. you have to learn it. Same with blender. It doesn't maybe have all the effects you might have in a professional program, but it has great features, a good workflow, and can render to ffmpeg. For Cinelerra, have you tried installing Cinelerra 4? It is basically a statically linked package, that works great and hasn't crashed yet. Just get it from Heroine Virtual..
Also you might check out my post about it:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=927376
Kory

[cotcot]

It is easy to write that linux video editing is not good without serious argumentation.
It is also easy to compare editors to commercial ones like adobe or pinaccle and say that the linux editors are bad because they do not have the same features of the commercials apps.
My personal opinion is that blender and cinelerra are both very good editors with a lot of features which will suit largely for most of us. Take your time to discover all features before judging.
Kdenlive is promising. Please note that the beta version is able to import AVCHD clips.
Kino is more basic but very good if you do not need a lot of features. Stable and easy to use.
There are other editors of which I cannot judge because I have not used them long enough.

[skullmunky]

I notice someone mentioned Smoke. Flame, Inferno, Smoke, etc. do demonstrate that there's nothing inherent about linux that makes it less suitable for video work. So we have one set of tools that are the absolute high end, and another set that's much more basic or in very long development but nothing in between.

If you've been editing for a while though think about where we were on other platforms not that long ago. I started on Media 100 ten years ago and it crashed all the time. After that I used Premiere and it couldn't handle any resolution above 320x240, plus it crashed all the time. Then came DV and Final Cut Pro, and it crashd all the time. Personally it's only in the last few years that I've felt any confidence in the stability of my editing software, and those are huge commercial apps with millions of dollars invested in them. So I'm patient, I try out each new release of kdenlive and cinelerra, I slowly hone my coding skills ...

[sepius]

As Cotcot pointed out, Kdenlive is pretty promising. I only use 640x480 resolutions, but I like that it can export in a number of formats, although I am having issues with Theora.
I use it combined with Kino. Used to use Jahshaka which was fantastic, but has been stalled the last couple of years, and maybe gone forever.

If you are just doing some home vids, I recommend Kdenlive.

For the record however, I have no experience with any Windows editor, so I don't really know what I am missing, if any thing.

And PS. If you do use Kdenlive, turn off Compiz cube, it crashes Kdenlive for some reason.

If you what to see some of my embarrassing stuff done with a $70 video camera check this.
http://www.mcworkks.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=59:liams-great-day&catid=43:maxx&Itemid=61

[Vadi]

I'm placing my hopes on http://lumiera.org/

[Cresho]

For those of you complaining about video editors not working in linux, they do.

check out my tutorial for high definition video editing.

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=594710&forum_id=27

Now for virtualbox and windows xp or vista running, you can install adobe premiere cs3 and also sony vegas of the "anykinds".

I networked my linux folder into windows xp and i can edit videos just as fast as native.

THERE IS VIDEO EDITING CAPACITY IN LINUX! no complaints please.

avidemux is possible to do all kinds of effects in a linear sense. fading, adding titles is possible. It is just limited to your creativity and of course you need to use gimp.

linux aplications that work with high definition videos (no 1080i please) are
avidemux
winff
devede

virtualbox->winxp->sony vegas

my blender editing high definition videos
http://forums.steves-digicams.com/forums/attachment.php?id=130257

all it needs is a few more bug fixes and I can totally forget about the vegas video thing.

[sepius]

yeah ... avidemux, I forgot about that one, I used to just use that for converting stuff before I discovered Kdenlive, yeah thats a good one, I'd recommend it to.

I asked my brother in law, he was saying the windows one is o.k., but after a while everything looks the same and you can't actually expand out any effects except what comes with it.

I miss Jahshaka, I have not been able to get it running for years. I am going to check out Blender though, I did not know it could edit, I just used it for modeling. I was thinking of using it to replace what Jahshaka used to do.

[Cresho]

kdenlive is being developed and new versions are being put out as fast as I reinstall windows after a virus attack.

kdenlive looks promising. I managed to edit high definition here as well since it uses ffmpeg. the presets are ugly though since it has no 59.94fps options.

[brucewagner]

I want to produce a little webcast every week... I want to be able to do basic editing of them... I'd like to be able to add a subtitle caption once in a while --- like the name of the guest I am interviewing, or spelling out a web site (domain name) we are discussing... We really don't need much more than that. Perhaps adding a little music later. Perhaps the ability to tape using 2 cameras and switch from cam one to cam two, and back, in the post-production editing.

Which one should I invest my time in learning.... Cinelerra or Kino or Blender...?

[nowardev]

in my opinion you have to think which input formats you will use.

if you use dv formats kino it's your software:

stable
fast
it's nice you can do everything normal people do with videos effects subtitle etc etc


if you are going to use ogg like input formats you could use cinellera
kino converts on dv formats before you can work on video so it's annoying
instead cinellera

it's powerfull
it's faster than kino on formats like ogg
it's support dv too
it supports mpeg

you could have some problem on audio installation and jack stuff
many formats are not accepted


if you want use every formats (every!) and you are pretty smart you could use Blender just run the Sequence editor and you will see how it's pretty easy look at youtube video tutorials.

problems : blender and subtitle mmm i have to find out solutions about that i dunno how to do because you can do it... but it's not nice or maybe i don't know how to do it better

i use blender :)

[Vadi]

I'm starting out with Kino. It has good documentation, works ok so far. Except it freezes when I move the time slider about too often.

[avitaminos]

Hi all !
Thanks for your messages, they are realy usefull for a newcomer to have a quick overview.
I'm planning to make some broadcasting news on Miro platform.
Will invest my time into Cinelerra and Blender first of all because interested in combining video-editing skills with some basic 3D modelling.
Will post out my discoveries.

[Vadi]

Welcome news to read: http://www.linux.com/feature/152464 [Collabora funds development of open source video editor PiTiVi]

[paulmerchant]

Welcome news to read: http://www.linux.com/feature/152464 [Collabora funds development of open source video editor PiTiVi]

I agree with Vadi. This announcement is really good news. PiTiVi is a relatively young project, but it has a good foundation. I'm excited to see how it will progress during the next year or two.

[Athiril]

If any of you want something decent and are programmers.

Take the avidemux project, and abstract on top of that, using avidemux for input->abstract->edit lists (xml perhaps), filter lists, etc->abstract->output using avidemux source code.

Already has all the filters and thing you could need.

You'd need to work on implementing an edit list/EDL format for non-destructively non-linear editing, basic tools.

And a -good- interface.


I'm a film student at SAE, so far, I really like kdenlive, I encourage everyone to sign up and add to the wish list.

I'm going with kdenlive, it actually imports and works with final cut capture HDV and all sorts of formats.

[Vadi]

But if you want to install kdenlive, it'll want to install a whole 400mb of other stuff... that's somewhat big for non-professional development.

[skullmunky]

About Jahshaka - I just checked back on their website to see if anything's happening, and apparently it is! Apparently it's been dormant for so long only because of difficulties between the dev team and some other party they had gotten to support the development; I guess something like a dispute between a band and their label? Anyway, they say that's been taken care of and they're back to work. That announce was from january, and nothing else big since then, but I'm hopeful. They're doing it in a really ambitious way, by trying to make an A/V library that does everything and is cross-platform as the core.

[zcartist]

I just archive tv with a sandisk vmate and a home video camera. avidemux works well with mp4. I am a linux convert because of the ease of use. Windoze doesn't like mp4 as far as freeware goes. I'm not a pro, my output is usually psp or devede I just take out the ads. I just load it, cut it, and watch it. No big conversion drama.

[velmont]

Worth mentioning that PiTiVi is quite usable now. It's also progressing quite quick. There are new features being fixed/added every month the last half a year. Quite interesting.

I would recommend it for everything as of now. And professional users should just help out with Lumiera and attract developers so that we can finally switch operating systems (I use OS X with Final Cut Pro).

[cbstryker]

I would like to know what is the best editor to use to work with AVCHD (.m2ts or .mts) video. I've tried most of what was mentioned here (except for Jahshaka, Cinelerra, OpenShot and Smoke). I'm most experienced in After Effects CS4 and Premier CS4. So any suggestions?

[Aphorism]

I would like to know what is the best editor to use to work with AVCHD (.m2ts or .mts) video. I've tried most of what was mentioned here (except for Jahshaka, Cinelerra, OpenShot and Smoke). I'm most experienced in After Effects CS4 and Premier CS4. So any suggestions?

Yes.

Quit worrying about codecs.

Keep your source files and convert them to a lossless codec that your preferred workflow deals with. Use a tool that meets your need.

In order to convert them, look to the Swiss Army Knife of video - mencoder / mplayer.

Once into a useful and non-taxing CPU format, do your work as you desire.

Evaluating a post production tool on its ability to deal with the ridiculous number of codecs and formats is simply a path of folly.

Hope that helps...

[cooper77z]

In response to the title of this thread, "Will Linux ever get a decent video editor?"

Do you mean an operator/user or a program? :lolflag::confused:

[halo_bone]

Do you mean an operator/user or a program?

Harsh..

Come on though, there is not one. The original poster has a valid point. The only real video work done on linux, ever, is done with select Autodesk products.

All of these open source guys are pretty awesome to play around and are actually really, really good for being free.

But none of them are nearly as capable of professional results like PP, FC, Avid, or even Edius. What someone said here about the problem being just developing "the basics" of an editor is a really high bar to meet, is 100% true. All these programs need a complete set of tools & a some-how ability to keep up with what's new.

So far, I do like Kdenlive. I'd like to see improved filters, like customization and color correction tools including vectorgraphs. With that it'd be a step closer to being used like Edius is being used today. I also haven't really checked out Smoke, I admit, though I'd really like to--it seems Autodesk is the only company that understands what I'm about to talk about.

I really wish one of the more popular companies would commit to Linux though. Ubuntu all the better. One of the biggest problems in video software all around is stability. The most stable of them, Grass Valley's Edius, only runs on Windoze. Bummer. Developing for Ubuntu would help out any of the suites big time.

Most Ubuntu distros (I tend to like ArtistX) are easily to a point now that they are friendly & intuitive enough for a typical PC user, especially editors. The OS is there, or at least good enough. Now if the software was just made for it, it seems to me like it would be a game changer. The broadcast world is in dire need of this kind of stability. If something funks up, it could be that person's job or that company's contract. Guess what all the switcher software runs off of? Guess what Grass Valley's editor only runs on? Guess what all the titling/graphics software runs on? Windows, windows, windows. The move to an infinitely more platform seems obvious but no company does it.

The video editors on Ubuntu right now are not there. The level of difference is totally parallel to gimp and photoshop. All the linux editors open up and look like (and only have a partial capability of) Windows Movie Maker and/or iMovie. Good for simple projects, cut to cut, with a fade or cheesy transition here and there, and that's about it, with poor output options and quality. And I know you can install photoshop on linux, but that's simply not mainstream--the manufacturer of a good, full-featured, well-rounded editor needs to have "Ubuntu" listed on their homepage under system requirements, officially support it, and the official installer be native to that OS, before it's ever going to be successful and plant a foot in the market. And frankly I'd like nothing more than that happening.

All that said, several months later on this thread.. here's hopin'.

:mrgreen: wb

[cooper77z]

halo_bone and friends,

I guess that all just depends on your philosophy. Even if a person just uses audacity, cinelerra, winff, devede, kino, and avidmux, then combines those editing tools with some imagination and a good project one can create a great program that could be distributed on DVD or the internet. It's not all about big hollywood systems on Ubuntu, it's about imagination and empowerment. :) There are plenty of production tools available on Linux to make a great program with lots of potential to communicate ideas and story. People shouldn't be limiting themselves so much with ideas like, "it takes big programs to make a great video". So it is the editor, not the application that is to blame on any editing platform. :popcorn:

[cotcot]

Harsh..

Come on though, there is not one. The original poster has a valid point. The only real video work done on linux, ever, is done with select Autodesk products.

All of these open source guys are pretty awesome to play around and are actually really, really good for being free.

But none of them are nearly as capable of professional results like PP, FC, Avid, or even Edius. What someone said here about the problem being just developing "the basics" of an editor is a really high bar to meet, is 100% true. All these programs need a complete set of tools & a some-how ability to keep up with what's new.

So far, I do like Kdenlive. I'd like to see improved filters, like customization and color correction tools including vectorgraphs. With that it'd be a step closer to being used like Edius is being used today. I also haven't really checked out Smoke, I admit, though I'd really like to--it seems Autodesk is the only company that understands what I'm about to talk about.

Just a question : have you checked Cinelerra or Blender ?

[robeast]

In response to the original question, will Linux ever get a decent video editor? Absolutely. Open Source has a way of creeping up and eventually out-performing proprietary. It's the tortoise and the hare.

[LuridCinema]

I admit I was in line w/ you on the frustration index on linux NLE's, they crash and have scant documentation. I kept on trying and viola ! results !!

I have come to the conclusion that Linux has an AWESOME video editor...Cinelerra. you have to learn how to set it up and use it. While it is lacking somewhat in documentation, but if you keep trying, you can do it. Openshot shows a lot of promise right now, it is great as is. I'm sure it will develop more and more real soon.

The tools are basic in both above editors, but your imagination and persistence will give you awesome results. Im confident that w/ Cinelerra, Openshot, Gimp, FFMPEG and Synfig I can do anything I want in filmmaking.

I have made a crappy Indie Film already on windoze using Sony Vegas ( see my signature ). The movie was a learning tool for me, I learned how to make a movie. I see w/ some graphix skills and my arsenal of Linux programs , I can do some cool stuff, all I have to do on my next project is use creativity to capture your emotions. I hope I will focus more on the craetive side than the technical side and use my knowledge and skills to tell a compelling story.

Maybe the question is not "When will the Linux Editing Programs have an automated plugin thingie that will do everything" but how can I creatively use the Linux tools available NOW to make some video magic. ???

[mango42]

-the manufacturer of a good, full-featured, well-rounded editor needs to have "Ubuntu" listed on their homepage under system requirements, officially support it, and the official installer be native to that OS, before it's ever going to be successful and plant a foot in the market.

Begs the question 'What market'?

Planting a foot in the global community by sheer co-operative organising skills would seem a more worthwhile endeavour, IMO - polish comes from very hardworking, vocational coders encouraged by user donations.

And it's happening - think modular ;)

[kylemallory]

I just ran across this thread. Looks like its been ongoing for a while now.

There is are a number of high-end/professional film/cinema tools for Linux, beyond Autodesks solutions. Most of these, including Autodesk's are priced outside of the realms of reality, unless you are a major effects studio. One recent development, however, has been with IFX's 'Ant': http://www.ifxsoftware.com/

'Ant' is a very robust, and stable suite for editorial, compositing, effects and color/finishing of film. I personally use it for editing RED footage. Ant is a little brother to the 'Piranha' suite of tools, which rivals Smoke and Combustion. Ant/Piranha started as effects and compositing solutions, but have intuitive interfaces for editorial and color. Of course, there is always room for improvement.

The software is priced very competitively against AVID, Autodesk, and the like, but is still on the high-end in comparison to Final Cut Pro, and Adobe CS.

The company is very responsive to general inquiries about Linux solutions for film/video work.

[hxcobd]

I admit I was in line w/ you on the frustration index on linux NLE's, they crash and have scant documentation. I kept on trying and viola ! results !!

I have come to the conclusion that Linux has an AWESOME video editor...Cinelerra. you have to learn how to set it up and use it. While it is lacking somewhat in documentation, but if you keep trying, you can do it. Openshot shows a lot of promise right now, it is great as is. I'm sure it will develop more and more real soon.

The tools are basic in both above editors, but your imagination and persistence will give you awesome results. Im confident that w/ Cinelerra, Openshot, Gimp, FFMPEG and Synfig I can do anything I want in filmmaking.



Just had to bump this because Lurid's work is REALLY cool and definitely super inspiring for me. I don't work in video, I'm solely an audio guy, but you guys should really check out the short films in the link in his sig; some really cool stuff there and almost all of it was done in linux/Cinelerra. Awesome!

[salsaman]

Problem solved as of Ubuntu 10.4

sudo apt-get install lives

:wink:


(For best results, keep up to date from the PPA)
https://launchpad.net/~hrickards/+archive/lives

[thorgal]

can I ask something ?

why is Lives tied to pulseaudio and gstreamer ? I cannot install Lives without installing these other things, which I am not interested in.

Does Lives provide a jack or native ALSA backend ?

EDIT: compiled source without pulse, just jack. Works fine :)

[LuridCinema]

Just had to bump this because Lurid's work is REALLY cool and definitely super inspiring for me. I don't work in video, I'm solely an audio guy, but you guys should really check out the short films in the link in his sig; some really cool stuff there and almost all of it was done in linux/Cinelerra. Awesome!

Why thanxx ! ALL of my work now is 100% Linux based. ( except for the old clown movie ) More to come.

[psidrum]

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/oscar-winning-lightworks-open-source.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+d0od+(Omg!+Ubuntu!)

yes! its coming!!!

Lightworks video editor is coming soon

http://www.editshare.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=208

[tubunu]

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/oscar-winning-lightworks-open-source.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+d0od+(Omg!+Ubuntu!)

yes! its coming!!!

Lightworks video editor is coming soon

http://www.editshare.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=208


Wow, this looks great, I can't wait to try it.

[brucewagner]

I just wrote a blog article about this...

"And on the Seventh Day, God Made Ubuntu. All Was Well. Two Awesome Companies Changed the Entire World this Week" http://post.ly/h4Wm

[fedexnman]

great write up bruce

[rylleman]

Everybody seems to see Lightworks as the big commercial salvation for video edit on linux.
But it doesn't run on linux, only windows. They do however hope for the community to build a linux version.
Here's from their newsletter (100521):
Platform Support
We have received a lot of questions about OS support for Lightworks. Currently Lightworks runs on Windows 7 and Windows XP. One of the drivers for taking Lightworks Open Source is to encourage other developers to get involved and help us take Lightworks cross-platform. Our intention is to port it to Linux and OSX. We’ll be discussing more about this with developers in the upcoming weeks.

Thanks kylemallory for the tip about Ant, it looks really interesting and worth investigating.

[Jake007g]

Blender seems very good, and looks quiet similar to 3d studio max, all though I have no idea how to begin using it. I personally like kdenlive, but it is buggy and is in need of some better effects.

[zettberlin]

I did not see Open Movie Editor here - though its development is quiete slow as of now I had and have great results with it.
It is very ligh weight, supports every format FFMPEG knows about (99% of all formats I guess, that is...) and yes, it crashes sometimes BUT has a perfectly working desaster-recovery so if it crashes, just restart it and continue not more then 2-3 seconds before the place where the crash appeared.


And the best: It comes with absolutely flawless support for jack including transport/sync so you can edit the soundtrack in Ardour or compose it in qtractor or both at the same time.:guitar:

I really do not know, why so many people seem to be so fond of Kino or Audacity both are OK for basic usage such as transfering an old cassette onto the harddrive or cutting a holiday-video but for someone that asks for ersatz for Premiere or Samplitude - Cinelerra, KDenlive and Open Movieeditor for Video and Ardour, Rosegarden and Qtractor for music are much more likely to suffice.

[Craig Magner]

PiTiVi looks kind of good, check that out

[petellgra]

HI
I'm only new to linux but, Blender seems to be underestimated here. I've used it for a ong time and only came over to linux because it's here. If you look at Blender nodes and the sequencer you'll find a pretty powerful package plus the capabilities to use 3D as well as a good game engine plus grab video of action in your game engine.
Peter

[sgx]

someday, I hope to have a week to get under the hood, I've read
that all the main tools are there, if one takes the time to learn
where they are, and what the labels are. Every year I install, maybe
in 2011 I'll actually become a user. Can flying logos crash as
hard as linux? :)

[youlive]

I know you are an editor, but that doesn't matter, you must know it, and instead of asking about new video tools, create one yourself with the tools you have, will there be problems and issues, Probably, but anything thing that is worth doing will have problems and issues that you must deal with. Before you made your first steps in life, you had to fall many times before you walked. I have very little knowledge about editing in ubuntu studio, but I have quite a bit of experience in editing and when it comes to editing regardless of the tools that I think I have to work with, I will make editing happen the way I want to.:)

[Stochastic]

Just moved six posts out of this thread to their own thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1504352

Please stay on topic within reason. Google/Microsoft debates have little to do with video editors in Linux.

[Rice&Fish]

I just wrote a blog article about this...

"And on the Seventh Day, God Made Ubuntu. All Was Well. Two Awesome Companies Changed the Entire World this Week" http://post.ly/h4Wm

Now that explains why Ubuntu is a religion. It all make sense now :)