Any possibility of nautilus ever looking like this?

[Ahriman]

http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31128

I saw this over at gnome-look.org, and yes, I realise that it's mock-up of what the author wants gnome to end up looking like. But I really like the look of the file manager, and just wondered if there is a way to customise it. I can change the size of the icons, etc, but is there anything else that can be done?

[manicka]

http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31128

I saw this over at gnome-look.org, and yes, I realise that it's mock-up of what the author wants gnome to end up looking like. But I really like the look of the file manager, and just wondered if there is a way to customise it. I can change the size of the icons, etc, but is there anything else that can be done?

You can downlaod and install different icon themes from gnome-look.org. You can pretty much make gnome look any way you like, just have a look at the themes, download and enjoy.

As far as changing the physical outlook of nautilus, i hope they never go down the path in that link..... a shocker in my book

[jeffreyvergara.NET]

i think it really looks great. i like the looks of nautilus, how'd you that?

[etc]

Looks like rox, but prettier

[bored2k]

Very Mac OS'ish. The first step would be getting those icons.

[poptones]

Well... I think it looks like hell. If they did go down that path, first thing I would do is download the sources and recompile.

The icons are terrible. With the cramped layout it looks like kde trying to look like gnome.

[MadMan2k]

Very Mac OS'ish. The first step would be getting those icons.
sudo apt-get install tango-icon-theme

as for the nautilus layout:
its a usability mess - the main navigation buttons are to small and have a to small marigin.
Furthermore the locationbar does not show that its clickable...

If you want nautilus to look more slim, you can disable the main toolbar and try if the locationbar can suit you.

[super]

i really like it!
true, it seems like it would have some usability issues but so does the current nautilus.
the way that the panel is gradiented(?) looks nice.
he should call it 'garden gnome':razz:

[Ahriman]

The best part of it is the location bar, imho. I would love to have my location bar looking like that.
The way the location bar is displayed is specific to the theme, no?

[Juippisi]

Umm, wow. It's amazing :-).

[MetalMusicAddict]

Well... I think it looks like hell. If they did go down that path, first thing I would do is download the sources and recompile.

The icons are terrible. With the cramped layout it looks like kde trying to look like gnome.
Man, it seems all you post are negitive/confrontational comments. Lighten up.


I like the mockups. A little brighter than the normal semi-gloss feel of Gnome while still looking like Gnome.

Unfortunately the likeliness of this happining is probally nill unless the author of the mock-up is influentual with the Gnome people. :(

I to have wished for a more compact layout for the toolbars in Nautilus. Maybe something like Firefox/Mozilla/Thunderbird does it?

The "no border" look is something Ive liked since I saw it on Macs. You can do this now though with the right themes. I had a test Clearlooks based one that did this. Resizing windows from the bottom gets weird though.

Very nice. I like the File menus in the upper-right like that.

[bvc]

no border? I see borders in all windows, in all screenshots. I installed fluxbox after not using it as my main for a few years and hated having to go to the bottom of the window to resize.

The ability to drag and move toolbar items around, and add and remove icons has already been discussed, and if I understood correctly, this has not been rejected. Therefore, if they heard from enough people, it would likely get moved up the list of priority.

The 'Entry' box needs to be more noticable. This is where things get complicated. If it were solely the nautilus addressbar then themers would have to be able to specify it in the gtkrc, but it would then be possible. See, the 'Entry' box is shared and used everywhere. This is where we reach gtk limitations, I have long complained about, while understanding the mess of code and vast number of themes that would become obsolete because they would not be updated. All the engines would have to be updated as well. Most pixmap themes would be dead in the water until they were updated.

Personally, I would love to see all the extra options available to themers and would be willing to dump the past, which is of the ancient. Many_a_themer has quit over these limitations.

For an example and concerning usability. Ever notice on a mac that in the inactive window, widgets are inactive? Scrollbars, etc....?
http://www.resexcellence.com/themes/b_zeitler/Samui/06-23_Samui_lg.jpg
All we get is an inactive metacity border, if the themer supplied it. If all the widgets in a inactive window were insensitive, usability is greatly increased, IMO. This is very simple, but it is not done. Why?

So with the exception of the nautilus and panel changes everything else in the concept is just a theme, and a very simple one at that.

[abs]

i must say, i do like this look,

it's clean and crisp, and dare i say it, its a lot nicer than the themes avaible, We can only wish, but until these wishes come true, ill just dream, ;)

[gabhla]

Hmmm...I like it.

[SpEcIeS]

Looks nice and smooth. :)

[bytter]

I like it! There are some usability problems as mentioned before, but in the overall, I like it. Specially the panel...

[BetaguyGZT]

I would SO use that. :D

Nice work. Everything you need, nothing you don't.

I assume that in this scheme of things that you can add/subtract buttons and other widgets as needed ?

[Wolki]

For an example and concerning usability. Ever notice on a mac that in the inactive window, widgets are inactive? Scrollbars, etc....?
http://www.resexcellence.com/themes/b_zeitler/Samui/06-23_Samui_lg.jpg
All we get is an inactive metacity border, if the themer supplied it. If all the widgets in a inactive window were insensitive, usability is greatly increased, IMO. This is very simple, but it is not done. Why?

There was some discussion on the Gnome-Usability list last month about this: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-October/msg00089.html starts it.

As for the theme, I don't particularly like it. There are a some issues... for example, the panel looks like it's edges aren't clickable. The colors and Icon theme are nice though.

[bvc]

I just used a screenie that showed the active/inactive aspect of the concept, is all. I was not implicating anything with the theme, itself.

[Wolki]

I just used a screenie that showed the active/inactive aspect of the concept, is all. I was not implicating anything with the theme, itself.

Oh, sorry. I meant the theme discussed in this thread, not the one on the screenshot you've posted. I wasn't really clear about that.

(The mac theme is a little to blue for me, but not that bad looking I guess..)

Thinking about the feature - I quite like the idea of inactive windows being... inactive, though I can understand Owen's position on this. I guess it could be confusing if you click a window in plain sight and nothing happens. And we certainly don't want to teach people to double-click everything. Maybe a (low, but noticable) translucency effect could be applied to truely inactive windows? Once it's technologically reasonable, that is.

[bvc]

Sorry. I realized that after I turned off the pc and was going to sleep.

I once saw a concept that had a shade over the inactive windows, and thought that was interesting.

[rooijan]

Wow that Nautilus window is the best I have ever seen! Can anyone here comment on exactly what would be the difficulty in making a theme like that. I expect the window border and icons are doable. I think the problem would be:
- the menu relocation to the right
- uppercase the Window title(maybe not)
- Navigation area changes

I would love if someone can comment on what will need to change. For instance is this a gtk coding change or can this be done if the HIG supported it.

[kakashi]

this really reminds me of xfce4. it really look quite like xfce4. also if you really like the nautilus pic then do try xfce4. other than that i don't quite like it. seems a bit over done for my taste. but i hope a theme or something can be found of that color scheme. that rocks.

ps. i wonder how the author mode those pics. did he use gimp or is it a screen shot of what he has working.

[rooijan]

this really reminds me of xfce4. it really look quite like xfce4. also if you really like the nautilus pic then do try xfce4. other than that i don't quite like it. seems a bit over done for my taste. but i hope a theme or something can be found of that color scheme. that rocks.

ps. i wonder how the author mode those pics. did he use gimp or is it a screen shot of what he has working.
kakashi --
I am not following. Can you explain how that nautilus shot looks like xfce4? I used xfce4 for a long time and it looks like they are just using the same gtk controls that gnome use. Unless you have seen something in their Thunar mockups that I have not yet?
http://thunar.xfce.org/wiki/ui:gtkfilechooser-like

[kakashi]

kakashi --
I am not following. Can you explain how that nautilus shot looks like xfce4? I used xfce4 for a long time and it looks like they are just using the same gtk controls that gnome use. Unless you have seen something in their Thunar mockups that I have not yet?
http://thunar.xfce.org/wiki/ui:gtkfilechooser-like
i just saw it and thought of xfce4. no other reason

[hav0x]

I like the whole centered, roundish panel thingie bit.
Other than that, menus on the right are a mistake and the location bar really looks like it doesn't belong in the ensemble, plus it's missing some usefull (imho) buttons like home, computer:/// and perhaps refresh.
From what i see it should be somewhat "doable" with the current theme system, the glossy feel ( minus those darker grays) at least resembles some clearlooks themes.
Did i meantion i liked the panel concept? I did :p

[jonlin]

Yuck! That screenshot looks terrible. I want focus on usability, not looks. IMHO the current Nautilus (and panel) layout is better.

[Sutekh]

I really quite like it. When I use Nautilus I really only use the navigation buttons, back, forward, up, home. Perhaps there should be some more nav buttons added.
But I like that the rest is pushed to the side, I don't really use those menus at all.

[Cybolic]

I think there's little chance of getting the window-menus looking like that (although I believe Tango is working on something similar) - but making Nautilus like that would be possible if it was made more modular, into something like the IconView of Gtk - a widget one could build an app around.
That way one could make several interfaces for Nautilus, but still have the same "look" of files and directories (including icon-theme), the file-property-dialog would remain the same and so on...

I would love it if the Nautilus "view-area" was separated into a widget, so I could build my own little interface in Python/PyGTK for it...

As for the panel, that's possible by hacking on something like Foopanel... but it would take some time...

[graabein]

Is gnome-look.org down or has it moved? I get a 404 not found message. :(

[bvc]

Hopefully it's just down temporarily. It's has gone down this long before.