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days_of_ruin
July 31st, 2008, 03:21 PM
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Kin_Tonic

I think its great.Hope its in II.:guitar:

V for Vincent
July 31st, 2008, 03:27 PM
I like all the Kith/Kin stuff. I'm definitely keeping an eye on it.

blueamcat
July 31st, 2008, 05:35 PM
That looks like a nice theme! I like how the windows look too, the toolbars? Yea those.

era86
July 31st, 2008, 07:51 PM
It hurts my eyes... That's just me...

CarpKing
August 3rd, 2008, 05:55 AM
Are the colors parametrizable (can you change the color of the window border in the "Appearance" dialog)?

Edit:
I see now that they are not. I'm not sure if it's possible to combine image-based window borders (such as this one) with colors taken from the GTK theme (the way the Clearlooks Metacity theme works), but it would make the Kin Tonic Metacity theme useful to a whole lot more people. Perhaps by using transparent desaturated versions of these images with the GTK selected color underneath?

It's a cool-looking theme, btw.

Giant Speck
August 3rd, 2008, 06:30 AM
It's a little too orange. There's too much contrast between the dark and the light.

mech7
August 3rd, 2008, 07:16 AM
Way too orange

Vakman
August 3rd, 2008, 07:17 AM
Meh. I am neutral to it. It looks all right.

crhylove
August 3rd, 2008, 10:41 AM
Pretty horrible, actually. You can take that as a flame or as constructive criticism. I personally HATE orange and brown and think that is ugly as sin. Other than here in the Ubuntu forums, I tend to get 100% agreement from everyone I talk to that brown is a poor color scheme. There are some GREAT designs and layouts over in this thread:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5514324

Including a couple of mine that I think are better (but definitely not the best, there are some stunners in there). :)

CarpKing
August 3rd, 2008, 09:12 PM
It's a little too orange. There's too much contrast between the dark and the light.


Way too orange


...I personally HATE orange and brown and think that is ugly as sin...

Hence the need for the window border to follow the GTK theme colors. That way, you won't end up in a situation where a user adjusting the colors in the preferences automatically makes the window border not match. Also it would mean that tweaking of the theme by the developer wouldn't require messing with the background images.

Of course, if this isn't possible in current Metacity, we might have to wait for Jasper.

XeiaieX
August 4th, 2008, 09:01 PM
i have to say, i like how ubuntu looks different and is distinguishable, but i hate the brown and orange... :s

conorsulli
August 4th, 2008, 09:42 PM
yuck, thats one busy window border, personally it was the color it should be changeable and the buttons.... But this is in development so I cant comment really

etomic13
August 4th, 2008, 10:44 PM
I personally feel that the black and orange colors are conflicting.I like the milky and glassy window borders but I feel that the zig zagging lines on the borders are too much. I much prefer the Gelatin theme over Kin Tonic. Does anybody know if this is what they are sticking with?

tonic
August 5th, 2008, 01:39 AM
Are the colors parametrizable (can you change the color of the window border in the "Appearance" dialog)?

Edit:
I see now that they are not. I'm not sure if it's possible to combine image-based window borders (such as this one) with colors taken from the GTK theme (the way the Clearlooks Metacity theme works), but it would make the Kin Tonic Metacity theme useful to a whole lot more people. Perhaps by using transparent desaturated versions of these images with the GTK selected color underneath?

It's a cool-looking theme, btw.


Hence the need for the window border to follow the GTK theme colors. That way, you won't end up in a situation where a user adjusting the colors in the preferences automatically makes the window border not match. Also it would mean that tweaking of the theme by the developer wouldn't require messing with the background images.

Of course, if this isn't possible in current Metacity, we might have to wait for Jasper.


yuck, thats one busy window border, personally it was the color it should be changeable and the buttons.... But this is in development so I cant comment really

I can hear you ^_^.

Oh, and could you tell me more about the buttons please...

Tonic

tonic
August 5th, 2008, 06:02 AM
Well, dynamically re-colouring the window border works but it only looks good for blues. A better job can be done providing the pixmap in the desired colour.

Metacity also doesn't have enough drawing functions to replicate the texturing.

suprfish
August 5th, 2008, 06:43 AM
Pretty horrible, actually. You can take that as a flame or as constructive criticism. I personally HATE orange and brown and think that is ugly as sin. Other than here in the Ubuntu forums, I tend to get 100% agreement from everyone I talk to that brown is a poor color scheme. There are some GREAT designs and layouts over in this thread:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5514324

Including a couple of mine that I think are better (but definitely not the best, there are some stunners in there). :)

I don't want to argue personal taste, but then again that is what it boils down to. I (and many others) like the brown & orange, when done right (as seen here (OP), great work btw). IMO there's a whole lot of crappy, unoriginal themes out there that happen to be shades of blue, in fact the mentioned thread seems to be saturated with them. Would you like Ubuntu to be saturated with them also? With the brown & orange scheme, designers are forced to have at least some measure of originality.

:-?

Are you arguing that the whole Ubuntu color scheme should be changed? Are you aware that doing so would take away a lot of meaning from the name "Ubuntu", etc?

The brown & orange theme should always be associated with Ubuntu, cos that is one of the main aesthetic reason that makes Ubuntu original. Example; name the four distributions just by looking at these screenshots of their base installs (logos have been quickly blurred).

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6201/dreamwi1.jpg

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8964/fedorarh3.jpg

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1039/ubuntulc3.jpg

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/29/suseij6.jpg

(Highlight): Dream, Fedora, Ubuntu, Suse
How did you do? Bet you got at least one right. How do you think somebody new to Linux would do?