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philippet
July 29th, 2008, 07:18 AM
I want to switch away from Vista.
Ubuntu supported apps seem to do everything I need EXCEPT
I need to use iRise for work (a web prototyping application which runs on Windows and requires Word & IE too)
What are my options for using ubuntu and irise on the same pc (or Quickbooks or any other application built for a windows environment ) ?

thank you

philippe

Elfy
July 29th, 2008, 07:23 AM
You have 3 basic options

1 - dualboot and use vista when you need to
2 - wine will work with some windows programs - check the site
3 - run a virtual machine and install windows on it - not 3d gfraphics so it isn't for games
http://www.winehq.org/
http://appdb.winehq.org/

There is a virtualization forum http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=308 - I use virtualbox - if you get the version from them it has usb support

There are plenty of sites dealing with dual booting

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
http://apcmag.com/the_definitive_dualbooting_guide_linux_vista_and_x p_stepbystep.htm

I find this site easier to search with - it is buntu specific http://www.uboontu.com/

a search for quicken 2008 gets recent results for instance.

El Conquistador
July 29th, 2008, 07:24 AM
You can either install wine and hope your program works if it doesnt do some research there may be fixes. to install wine go to winehq.org and follow the directions to install on your distro. then just double click your .exe and istall it.

your other choice would be to install a virtual machine and install windows on it then run your programs in the virtualmachine. i recommend virtualbox.

Edit: YEAH what forestpixie said. did a better job too.

loneowais
July 29th, 2008, 07:26 AM
Try xVM VirtualBox

http://www.sun.com/software/products/virtualbox/index.jsp
features
http://www.sun.com/software/products/virtualbox/features.jsp

Download
http://www.sun.com/software/products/virtualbox/get.jsp

kdb424
July 29th, 2008, 07:28 AM
I recommend dual booting, Virtualbox (Virtual machine) and then wine in that order for your situation.

Bucky Ball
July 29th, 2008, 07:29 AM
runs on Windows and requires Word & IE too

This gives you about one option ... virtual machine.

SunnyRabbiera
July 29th, 2008, 07:29 AM
Dual booting is always a good option, but wine might work too.
You wont know until you try.
But to me anything that demands IE and word is stupid.

philippet
July 29th, 2008, 07:31 AM
thank you for the quick response. can I ask why in that order?
cheers
p

El Conquistador
July 29th, 2008, 07:31 AM
This gives you about one option ... virtual machine.

not necessarily because after wine then you could intall Wine-Doors and intall IE from then. although to be honest i havent tried it so i dont know how good it will be. but the option is there. but yes dual-booting is also a good suggestion.

philippet
July 29th, 2008, 07:34 AM
thank you for a great response. ill have a look

p

Elfy
July 29th, 2008, 07:34 AM
thank you for the quick response. can I ask why in that order?
cheers
p

If you're talking about my post - because that's how I thought of them - if you want my preferred order it would be

virtualmachine
dualboot
wine

kdb424
July 29th, 2008, 07:34 AM
thank you for the quick response. can I ask why in that order?
cheers
p

That way you can keep work and play separated with dual boot. Then VM, sucks down your system resources. (Vista.........) and Wine is cool, but never really works that well without a lot of research and modifying (most of the time, so no one yell at me for saying that) If you need the newest internet explorer it's rarely compatible from what I hear.

SunnyRabbiera
July 29th, 2008, 07:36 AM
Well not in my case, wine has surprised me many times,

El Conquistador
July 29th, 2008, 07:38 AM
yes plus another reason would be that it goes from 100% working to Possibly working. and since you say this is for your job then you might be better off going for the sure thing..that way you dont get fired!

kdb424
July 29th, 2008, 07:40 AM
Thinking of work first is why I suggested dual boot first. Virtual machines are great, but only on newer machines with vista. lol. If you could, maybe try XP and Ubuntu dual boot...

Elfy
July 29th, 2008, 07:43 AM
To be honest whatever I was going to do I would start with a dualboot - you do not want to be trying to start using a new os, work out how to use either a vm or wine inside of your chosen buntu - at the same time as working :)

There is one other option which I always forget about - you can install ubuntu inside of windows using the wubi installer - afaik putting the cd in while running windows will bring up the wubi installer.

I don't however have the first idea how good it is. You can later transfer the ubuntu wubi install to a full blown ubuntu install.

kdb424
July 29th, 2008, 07:45 AM
I don't like wubi as it relies on windows living, and Vista of all versions....

Elfy
July 29th, 2008, 07:48 AM
I don't like wubi as it relies on windows living, and Vista of all versions....You might not - I have no idea myself - but it's more about giving the op options to make a sensible choice in his circumstance. I don't like windows - but then I don't need it to run particular programs :D

kdb424
July 29th, 2008, 07:50 AM
Dual boot is just as easy, but whatever. let us know what you choose before we start a war. lol jk.

Elfy
July 29th, 2008, 07:52 AM
Dual boot is just as easy, but whatever. let us know what you choose before we start a war. lol jk.You're ok - I don't do wars ever - don't like macs either :lol:

kdb424
July 29th, 2008, 07:55 AM
Love macs, different topic. What I really want to say is that if you have the hardware to back it up, than you might want to run a virtual machine so you can do everything at once. Just use 2 desktops. 1 fullscreen windows, the other Ubuntu. I would recommend putting windows in the virtual machine though. It runs better.

Bucky Ball
July 29th, 2008, 08:10 AM
intall Wine-Doors and intall IE from then. although to be honest i havent tried it

I guess that's my point, yes, achievable but could take a very long time to set up with not much advice available because it is pretty specific. VM on the other hand ... which, incidentally, I don't use at all. I try to go native Linux where-ever possible. (boot windows for one program which doesn't run under wine anyhow and that is soon to go!) :)