Guild Wars linux petition

[Joh_]

I just found this while browsing the web: http://www.petitiononline.com/gwlinux/petition.html

It's a petition to get the developers' attention to the linux community and if you read the description, there's atleast a slight chance it might work. :)

[Valeran]

Not to be a negative Nelly, but I hope people don't get thier hopes up too high that this petition will actually accomplish anything. I have seen several of these for different games and nothing ever comes of any of them.

However, I have signed it because I support what you are trying to do. But until game developers learn that there are alternatives to Windoze we will be stuck playing games via WINE/Cedega. :(

[Joh_]

Not to be a negative Nelly, but I hope people don't get thier hopes up too high that this petition will actually accomplish anything. I have seen several of these for different games and nothing ever comes of any of them.

However, I have signed it because I support what you are trying to do. But until game developers learn that there are alternatives to Windoze we will be stuck playing games via WINE/Cedega. :(

I'm not the one who started the petition. o.O

However I signed it, and I'm also trying to make other ppl do the same. I'm not sure what to believe, if it's possible or not, but if you look at the quotes I believe it is atleast possible, and just for that cause, it's worth signing.
When ArenaNet launched Guild Wars, an online role-playing game, they wrote that it would eventually be available on other platforms, like Linux.
If
this is something you feel strongly about, we encourage you to consider
posting your suggestions on one of many of the Guild Wars Fansite
message boards.
[...]
By posting on one of these message boards, other players can comment on
your ideas, concerns, and suggestions, and
Development Team members are able to catch up on what the community
wants to see in Guild Wars.

[ThirdWorld]

i dont play video games in my PC but i signed it :D

[Czar]

I agree with it... Signed

[handy]

Squeaky doors get fixed first... :-)

Cheers

handy

[KingBahamut]

Most of my clan members , like me, play Guildwars w/ cedega without problem. While I admire the attempt to get installers and builds for linux to run, I see little need at trying to push a community of developers that is so large and expansive. One day they will wake up, Atari for instance, Including a linux installer on its UT brand of product. Those are the kinds of things that are going to motivate game devs to create linux happy games , not petitions and squeaky wheels.

[earobinson]

Meh, Im all about more linux SW even if i dont play

[Jimboogly]

I'd have to say I agree with both comments for and against petitions, although using a petition gives them a list of potential clients at say $59.95 + tax /signee = $ untapped cash $ as when you boil it all down that is what they produce software for.

Not that I blame em, feeding the family has always been a good motivator to get my lazy butt outa bed in the morn'

:rolleyes:

One other thing, just want to send out my thanks to all members / admins that actively post helpful replies in these forums, as a newbie, and working on kicking that windows virus. You make the learning curve less challenging.

[drfalkor]

/signed
1848 Signatures Total :)

[gRiMgRaVy014]

Signed :)

[punkrockguy318]

singned

[akurashy]

even so guild wars runs smoothly in cedega i want to see this happening :D

[Dark Damo]

It would be awesome to see games start to work perfecly on Linux. Auto installer and all. They play like a charm with no extra software needed.

I'm gonna sign it soon :P

Since i play Guild Wars :)

[Imexius]

It would be awesome to see games start to work perfecly on Linux. Auto installer and all. They play like a charm with no extra software needed.

I'm gonna sign it soon :P

Since i play Guild Wars :)

Gha, having easy installers would ruin all the fun. When you have to work to get somethings its all the more fun.

[earobinson]

we should really have a linux promotion / pettitioning section on the forums

[handy]

Most of my clan members , like me, play Guildwars w/ cedega without problem. While I admire the attempt to get installers and builds for linux to run, I see little need at trying to push a community of developers that is so large and expansive. One day they will wake up, Atari for instance, Including a linux installer on its UT brand of product. Those are the kinds of things that are going to motivate game devs to create linux happy games , not petitions and squeaky wheels.

Why?

We just have to wait for the day that the alarm clock goes off...

handy

[akiro.yamamoto]

Signed
:cool:

[meborc]

i always support good initiative to helt linux users... so i signed... :rolleyes: one man can make the difference... FREEDOM

[Breepee]

I signed it, though I don't play it. Solidarity between Linux gamers!

[Thirsteh]

The problem with Wine and Cedega is that they're being so heavily supported that game developers don't even try to make native Linux versions of their games because they expect it to run on Linux without problems.

[Norberg]

Signed!

[Frazer]

Signed

If you have Guild Wars working with no problems in Cedega is there any tips for getting it right? I am running it with cedega but every few seconds it freezes for a few. Any ideas on how to fix? My pc should be upto it as im also running Steam games and battlefield 2 in cedega fine.

[Azriphale]

Signed.

Maybe I should look into Cedega until they release GW on Linux... I haven't played in a while....

[Artificial Intelligence]

I'll sign, but I doubt it will make any diffrence :/.

Got GW works fine with cedega though.

[Breepee]

The problem with Wine and Cedega is that they're being so heavily supported that game developers don't even try to make native Linux versions of their games because they expect it to run on Linux without problems.
I doubt that most of the developers are even aware of Linux, let alone being aware of Cedega/Wine.

[drn8]

Yes I signed, yes I play GW, no I don't have a cadega account, I prolly should get one, most windoze games I play work in cadega, but somthing bothers me about being forced to pay for wine, the whole thing feels kinda shady.

[Azriphale]

I downloaded the Cedega 14 day trial. They're not getting my money.

First of all, it doesn't work with twinview.

Second, the fonts were messed up.

It temporarily stopped working til I went and messed with config files.

A whole lot of stuff.

GW crashed.

GW ran slowly.

GW complained that my video card is unsupported (which it doesn't do in windows). I have a nvidia GeForce 6200 TC. Which while it is rather cheap, it is a good card.

If I am going to give them my money, it must work. It didn't work, so I'm not going to give them my money. I just didn't have the patienct to sit with Cedega and play with it to make stuff work.

[handy]

Look here it may appeal to you:

http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45

handy

[siorai]

Yes I signed, yes I play GW, no I don't have a cadega account, I prolly should get one, most windoze games I play work in cadega, but somthing bothers me about being forced to pay for wine, the whole thing feels kinda shady.

Who's forcing you to pay for Cedega? Maybe it's different where I live, but I had the choice to subscribe or not. Did someone threaten you with bodily harm unless you payed for it?

[siorai]

I downloaded the Cedega 14 day trial. They're not getting my money.

First of all, it doesn't work with twinview.

Second, the fonts were messed up.

It temporarily stopped working til I went and messed with config files.

A whole lot of stuff.

GW crashed.

GW ran slowly.

GW complained that my video card is unsupported (which it doesn't do in windows). I have a nvidia GeForce 6200 TC. Which while it is rather cheap, it is a good card.

If I am going to give them my money, it must work. It didn't work, so I'm not going to give them my money. I just didn't have the patienct to sit with Cedega and play with it to make stuff work.

Cedega does work with TwinView. I know this for a fact because I run a dual monitor system and it works fine.

As for Guildwars, no real problems here. It took a little bit of testing of profiles, but it works fine.

I would have to say that your main problem is, as you pointed out, a lack of patience on your part. As much as I'm enjoying Linux, the main thing that I have learned so far is that it is not for the impatient. Especially when it comes to running Windows programs in the Linux environment. It sounds to me like a dual-boot might be the best plan of action for you unless you want to take the time to setup Cedega properly.

[Azriphale]

I agree with you about Linux not being for the impatient, I was just not in the mood to fiddle with a proprietry framework at that time. I spent most of last night compiling xserver (and its dependencied), and you need to be patient when doing that for the first time without people to guide you when you go wrong.

If you say Cedega works with TwinView, I'll believe you and maybe give it another shot. Could possibly post your Cedega profiles here (that you use for GW)?

When I tried to run GW (after i fixed path problems, and crashing), it came up spanned across two monitors. Then once it came up on my right monitor, spanning even further to the right. Funny things were happening.

Otherwise, I actually don't really play games that often, so dual-boot is fine. It saves USD$5 a month and I'm not garanteed to get my moneys worth (if I don't play anything for a while).

[Kartel]

Never having had a much of success with cedega either (specifically with GW), here's one more sig.

[drn8]

Who's forcing you to pay for Cedega? Maybe it's different where I live, but I had the choice to subscribe or not. Did someone threaten you with bodily harm unless you payed for it?

Nice attempt at a troll, but no obviously not, I am however forced to pay if I want to use it, and it is based on open source software. I am also sure you understood my meaning. I am not aware of when/where transgaming gives their code back to the wine project perhaps you can enlighten me? It seems if this were happening there would be less reason to use cadega. However I am using the current(as of yesterday) CVS version of wine, and steam + CS:S + HL2 + DoD:S + CS 1.6 + CS CZ (I haven't tried GW yet) all seem to be working fine in stock wine, so perhaps they are giving code back, (flame on) or perhaps you are paying $55 a year for the cadega gui. Maybe cadega == 4_L1nux_n00bs, kinda like ubuntu :-p (flame off)

*EDIT*

Look here it may appeal to you:

http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45

handy

Just saw this, I can use it without a sub? when I last installed cadega (over a year ago, perhaps even two) it asked for my transgaming account before it would allow me to usee it. If I can, perhaps I'll check it out, the 14-day trial sounds unplesent, I will likely need more time then that to make up my mind about it.


*edit 2*
looks llike cedega cvs will not compile on my opensuse 10.0 x86_64 instaliation, I'll stick with stock wine.

[handy]

There might be more than one of us have a go at the cvs over the next couple of days, we could continue feedback here, perhaps help each other out where we can?

[Frazer]

What kind of confiq files and Profiles do you use on GW? I have a Gforce Fx 5700 all set up right. It runs very laggy/slowly. On a windows install I can run in full setting on gfx card and game highest resoloution and its smooth, im not expecting it to be exactly the same as in windows but this and one other game BF2 are keeping me dual boot and not all out linux. also what cedega versions are you using to get good performance? im on 5.

[Schmic]

signed

up to 2078 last view

[calgarystevens]

2079 and 2080 here. There is no reason they couldn't adapt to linux, they are amazing programmers (look at GW) and just need a reason to work on it. Maybe after this first expansion is released they'll have time, and if all who own GW but want to switch to linux (or have already) send an email stating they refuse to buy the expansions until it's released they'll take notice. Our money is the only bargaining chip we have, and with no monthly fees they need that expansion money for sure.

[handy]

I did the CVS thing a week or 2 ago, have been too busy playing GW from xp to attempt a GW CVScedega setup!

What an amazing piece of software engineering GW is, I'd say WoW, but you might get the wrong idea!

There have been a few requests on this thread for help in setting up GW under Cedega, so far no one has replied?

It surely would save me & us some time if someone would give some advice, example config?

Thanks.

[Frazer]

http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=7

The tweaking the game section of this solved my graphics and fps problems

[handy]

Thanks Frazer, :)

I'll check it out.

I hate having to re-invent the wheel.

I'd rather be doing something else, these days atleast.

[handy]

It got my mouse working at the login screen, but still black screen of death post login?

[Frazer]

Are you passing all of the video tests in Cedega?

If your using Nvidia you may need to reset the Nvidia Settings to default, I couldnt play Cedega using the same settings I use for Unreal 2004.

[Step]

I signed this!

I'm testing out GW on Cedega and with TwinView on a 6800GT (AGP) it's not running completely well...

First it gave me an error of having an unsupported videocard (it is supported!) and I have proper drivers of nvidia (not sure which ones but i can look that up). Also when I finally got it working, my keyboard didn't work and the screen is kinda stretched all over (even tho the little window is 1024x768 ) it's still trying to go all over my dual-screen setup](*,)

I am passing all the videotests and the game of Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast (old game), which runs on OpenGL works perfect!
Even tho getting games to work doesn't always go the right way, Ubuntu is the way to go for me!:)

[paridoth]

signed, i cant wait for cool games like this to get ported to linux so i can play with my windows freinds and show them linux at the same time, erase all doubt of linux as a full fledged OS

[Ascel]

signed.
Number 4712

I hope it happens.

[natenewz]

On the Ubuntu Facebook group(19,396 members) I made a post asking people to sign the petition. The problem is that not enough people replied to the post, and so it went down to where nobody sees it in the forum. If you guys could help out by replying to this post, maybe we could get a lot of these members to sign the petition. You have to have a facebook to post, but anybody can see the link...
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/topic.php?uid=2205498133&topic=6616&ref=mf
btw, I was signed it at like 7,xxx... It's getting bigger!