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worx101
July 23rd, 2008, 03:47 AM
Hello,

I am looking to try out different distributions and Windows OSes, but I don't want to reformat/dual-boot/tri-boot whatever as I am perfectly happy with Ubuntu as it is.

So my question is, what is the best virtual machine? Curious about vmware, but not sure what I should need or if that is even what I should be looking at.

tried qemu, but that was a major headache and I would prefer not to try it again.

Thanks

iaculallad
July 23rd, 2008, 03:54 AM
Take a look at the "Complete" comparison of Virtual Machines at Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines).

sdennie
July 23rd, 2008, 03:59 AM
Moved to Virtualization.

dross_kuh
July 23rd, 2008, 04:12 AM
I use virtualbox(1.6), never tried any of the others for the simple reason that it was the first i tried and it did everything i wanted/needed and was fairly simple to install/setup :)

Jon Monreal
July 23rd, 2008, 03:20 PM
I use virtualbox(1.6), never tried any of the others for the simple reason that it was the first i tried and it did everything i wanted/needed and was fairly simple to install/setup :)

Plus an open source version is available in Synaptic. It lacks USB support and a couple other things, but otherwise, it works great.

tamoneya
July 23rd, 2008, 03:25 PM
if you just want to play around with stuff and test things out I recommend virtual box. VMWare is better for companies and servers and things like that.

Virtua-Touch
July 23rd, 2008, 04:58 PM
By far, VBox (VirtualBox) is the best. I tried VMWare and couldn't get it to work.

tesna
July 24th, 2008, 11:27 PM
I've tried both (vmware workstation 6.0.4 & virtualbox 1.6.2), each has its own advantages and disadvantages.

Speed wise almost the same (I haven't test it with any benchmarks, but from general experiences when working with large excel 2007 files)

Vbox pros:
-Good performance
-Free
-correctly registers mouse and keyboard movement when working inside the vm so the screen does not dim
-correctly compiles vbox modules on custom build 2.6.26 kernel

vbox cons:
-high cpu usage (50% according to top) when the running guest at idle, making my laptop computer quite hot, because high cpu demand and forcing my cpu to use full clock when set to ondemand gorvernor.
-usb not enabled by default, and needs some tweaking to get it work
-quite hard to setup bridged networking

vmware pros:
-easy install, networking (nat & bridged easy to setup), usb enabled by default
-low cpu usage when guest is idle (7-8% according to top) so it will not force cpu clock to full power and resulting much cooler operation.
-good performance

vmware cons:
-didn't correctly registers my mouse and keyboard movement in host OS, so when working in guest VM, my screen dims after a while, I need to scroll my mouse outside the VM guest window to make it undim. This is so annoying
-vmware modules doesn't compile on 2.6.26 kernel, there's a patch though but I havent tried it.

Just a quick questions to vbox users, how much cpu usage of virtual box when running one vm at idle? does mine normal?

My specs:
Ubuntu Hardy 64 bit with all latest updates
Thinkpad T61, C2D 7300 2ghz, 4 GB ram, 250GB sata hdd

dross_kuh
July 26th, 2008, 12:58 AM
vbox is using 38% of one core on an AMD X2 6000 :
i would`nt call it @idle tho... i have numerous programs running in it
...
cctv monitoring 4 live feeds,
googletalk,
ventrillo,
nokia pc suite,
clamwin antivirus,
dds (stacker unit),
tiny personal firewall :)

i`m using the non-oss version with the usb (guest additions installed)

siepo
July 26th, 2008, 05:50 PM
The high cpu usage of vbox can be cured with a boot parameter nohz=off added on kernel lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst.
Don't ask me what it means.

Jon Monreal
July 27th, 2008, 12:45 AM
The high cpu usage of vbox can be cured with a boot parameter nohz=off added on kernel lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst.
Don't ask me what it means.

If you're interested in finding out more about that nohz option, it has to do with dynamic ticks. I managed to find a pretty good article here (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=651&num=1), just in case you are curious.

Yuki_Nagato
July 27th, 2008, 12:49 AM
Check out Derek's guide to Virtual Box. He will set you up!

(Check the signature)

boblemur
July 27th, 2008, 12:52 AM
not exactly on topic but you should check out xplite(their is an open source one) that less than 1/2ed the size of my xp install and it runs ALOT faster.... so if you are looking to vm xp (without using a native partition of windows) then i sugest you trim ur xp down before installing :)