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poptones
November 3rd, 2005, 09:11 AM
Apparently SGI is really getting close to EOL this time.

http://www.sgi.com/company_info/newsroom/press_releases/2005/november/nyse.html

Though the stock price is down to pennies, SGI still holds the rights to quite a lot of technology. And what is the most common problem in linux? Video drivers - because none of the video card makers will release information on their products.

Hmmmm... wouldn't it be great if there was a GPL friendly tech company that would apply the open source development model to some geek friendly hardware? This is a sea that's never been sailed, and with SGI on the ropes it could be a good time to leave port...

BWF89
November 3rd, 2005, 11:45 AM
SGI has the coolest computers. It would be great if Mark Shuttleworth bought them out.

Compucore
March 28th, 2006, 04:21 AM
Well I was speaking with a friend of mine that has a SGI machine an old SGI O2 computer that he had gotten from work. I was drooling over it as well when I had first seen it. They are definately cool computers. I had two old Sparcstation 1+ but had to give those two up since I could not get the memory for them any more. They were 30 oin simms. and good luck in finding those around. I had asked if I could borow his O2 to check it out. Problem is that the OS is locked downl unless I could hack the passwords out of it. Or at least do a reinstallation of some kind of OS> Mainly Ubuntu which I am using on a Dell GX150 which I love using right now. I wanted to surprise him with Ubuntu on a machine like that one. Once I could get it installed.

Is ubuntu planning to come out with something for SGI and sun solaris machines by any chance? I know the older Sun stations would not be good since some of them are too old Anything under the ultra 1 computers are not worth it.

Compucore
:-D

Iandefor
March 28th, 2006, 04:29 AM
Wow. I read the name of the OP, and was like "Poptones is back?! WTF?!"- oops. Got posted before he left.:oops:

Anyways...

Yeah, that would be pretty convenient, wouldn't it? They're in pretty dire straits, it looks like, so I don't think it would be a stretch for Canonical to snap up all the stock and take control of the company. That would be an interesting future for Linux.

taurus
March 28th, 2006, 05:24 AM
Back then, they were the kind of graphics/multimedia machines while Sun was in the high end Unix workstations/servers... And since you can do always everything with a PC nowadays, that's why SGI is not doing too good! Well, I wouldn't mind having a end high SGI machine! :)

Basu
March 28th, 2006, 06:44 AM
Let's get together an official petition to Canonical from the Ubuntu community! Let's get some forum mods to join us and help coordinate this thing. Maybe even some of the dev team. If any of you guys know people up top, how about asking them to help us?

JimmyJazz
March 28th, 2006, 07:05 AM
I have a feeling SGI would still cost more than Cannonical is willing to pay.

mips
March 28th, 2006, 12:57 PM
SGI has lost it's niche it had in earlier years. That niche can now be catered for by standard off-the-shelf hardware and software. Lots of studios have moved to linux render farms running on hardware available to the man in the street (at a cost though). Lots off the software used is also of the oss type.

Many Unix based harware platforms are moving to Linux, you can see this with SGI wich used to be a Irix only shop now having many products based on Linux.

It's the way the world is moving and maybe SGI should look at reinventing themselves.

Just because the company is delisting from the NYSE does not mean it is bankrupt like some people here think. They just don't meet the $1 share price requirement any more.

As for your ideas of Canonical buying the company, forget it. I don't think they have nearly enough money to buy the company out. Maybe with further financial backing but who is gonna do that when you see a company is in decline ?? SGI's FY2005 turnover was $730million
http://www.sgi.com/company_info/newsroom/press_releases/2006/january/q206_results.html

mips
March 28th, 2006, 01:02 PM
Problem is that the OS is locked downl unless I could hack the passwords out of it. Or at least do a reinstallation of some kind of OS> Mainly Ubuntu which I am using on a Dell GX150 which I love using right now. I wanted to surprise him with Ubuntu on a machine like that one. Once I could get it installed.


http://www.total-knowledge.com/progs/mips/o2-howto.shtml
http://www.tal.org/~milang/o2/
http://www.linux-mips.org/~glaurung/
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mips/2004/05/msg00132.html
http://caradhras.ccslab.aueb.gr/
http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=SGI+O2+Linux+Howto&btnG=Search&meta=

Compucore
April 19th, 2006, 02:24 AM
Taurus SGI servers are still being used in some areas on the backside for special applications in the server rooms. Where I used to work for at UTC subsiduary company. They had a couple of huge 32 64 bit Machine there doing something for them. What I have no Idea. But it would have been fun to look at what it was doing. But SGI still makes stuff with their higher end servers like sun microsystems for some specific things that are not generally known to the typical end user.

And MIPS thanks for posting those links there. I will be taking a look into that over here. to get that SGI O2 running over here. I just need to get a monitor that will work with it over here. My old 15 inch monitors here are really being finky with this machine since the resolution for it is too high and the sync for it is way out of range for the monitors that I have here that can handle it. Once I can get a decent monitor even used like a 17 inch I should have o problems in getting it up and running with a version od Debian running on it. Since that is what Ubuntu is using as part of its distro of linux. The three main monitors that I am using here two of them can go as high as 800X600 and one is 640X480. I have not found out a way of just getting the machine to like these monitors. Since the who screen is like shifted over. and you cannot really see anything with it. Go figure. ](*,)

Compucore


Back then, they were the kind of graphics/multimedia machines while Sun was in the high end Unix workstations/servers... And since you can do always everything with a PC nowadays, that's why SGI is not doing too good! Well, I wouldn't mind having a end high SGI machine! :)

mips
April 19th, 2006, 09:56 AM
One more, http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Main_Page

Let us know how it goes...

Sushi
April 19th, 2006, 10:40 AM
Idea of having perfectly working Ubuntu (or some other Linux for that matter) running on SGI MIPS-workstation is.... appealing. SGI has always been the ultimate computer for me.

mips
April 19th, 2006, 10:55 AM
I always dreamed of owning a SGI box. Never had the money for a new one. See lot's on Ebay at reasonable pices but I live in Africa so it is not really an option. Anyone locally wanna get rid of a SGI box maybe ?

Stormy Eyes
April 19th, 2006, 01:56 PM
Ahh, good old SGI. I've got one of their old LCD screens, a 1600SW that does 1600x1024 widescreen. It was sweet until the video card it came with burned out. Now it's in the closet, because Number 9 is out of business and the 1600SW doesn't use a standard DVI connection.

Zodiac
April 19th, 2006, 02:12 PM
ha! I have so much old equipment like that laying around it is disgusting. I could start a business... ummm... selling useless old *** computer equipment... or something.

Compucore
April 20th, 2006, 04:39 AM
Same here I have always dreamed of having a SGI system as well. When my friend showed me this one. I nearly fell apart when I had seen it. But I do have one other system which is Nextstation with 17 inch B&W monitors. Which is nothing to sneeze at either. Once I can get an extra working monitor that can run on the O2 and get it running with one of the links you had posted. I'll be drooling it when its working. If I can find out for another place for a workstation or two of sun microsystem or SGI that are not usually shwn in a computer store. But enough to use it for as a display as a somehthing you don't often see in a computer store. I'll put it up or in somewhere. Just to be able to say that you can fix and repair those as for hardware and installations. Makes some of the regular end users think of other systems than just windows or OSX. But still be able to provide the services for that and these systems you know. I might do it with one of my nextstations eventually.

Compucore



I always dreamed of owning a SGI box. Never had the money for a new one. See lot's on Ebay at reasonable pices but I live in Africa so it is not really an option. Anyone locally wanna get rid of a SGI box maybe ?

mips
April 22nd, 2006, 01:31 PM
Ahh, good old SGI. I've got one of their old LCD screens, a 1600SW that does 1600x1024 widescreen. It was sweet until the video card it came with burned out. Now it's in the closet, because Number 9 is out of business and the 1600SW doesn't use a standard DVI connection.


That can be fixed via several options:
http://www.sgi.com/products/legacy/multilink/
http://www.ultraflexinc.com/gfx.html
http://www.pixsolution.com/
http://www.icir.org/hodson/1600sw/gfx1600sw.html
http://www2.dvigear.com/mudtolvad.html

http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&q=SGI+1600SW+DVI+adapter&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&q=DVI+to+LVDS+Converter+&btnG=Search&meta=


Not aware of the pricing but if expensive maybe check ebay or something like that.

Compucore
May 1st, 2006, 12:46 AM
Mops there is one other place that you could check out as well. And this is only a suggestion here. There is a place that I went to called freecycle.org. There you might if you are lucky enough to get one through there. They are a gem to find. Even if they are O2 or the indigo variety from SGI. I was also fortunate to come across another place near where I used to study at the college level to pick up a sun Ultra 10 or an ultra 5 fully equipped excluding monitor I believe. Had memory hard disk, cpu,etc and cdrom for $50 Canadian. The guy was offering me one or two if I was interested. Because I was looking for a SCSI-2 CDROM for my older mac and nextstation.

Compucore

xmastree
May 1st, 2006, 01:52 AM
I always dreamed of owning a SGI box. Never had the money for a new one. See lot's on Ebay at reasonable pices but I live in Africa so it is not really an option. Anyone locally wanna get rid of a SGI box maybe ?

I have a friend in Edinburgh who deals in SGI stuff:
http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/sgidepot/

Africa? shouldn't be a problem:
http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/sgidepot/uruguay.html
(yeah, I know that's not Africa...)

Compucore
May 1st, 2006, 02:47 AM
Its like OMG I'll take the octane for sure. if I had the money for one. I think personally and I don't know about anyone else here. Whether its a SGI or a sun microsystem as examples here. That something like that to have in your arsonal of home computers. And using Linux on them or similar like Sun solaris 10 that you can still get for free to run on them. Its would be great to have at home to use. And to show off to your friends and family. I would be laughing my head if most over here. People who had never tried these kind of machines would try them out with another OS like Linux or Solaris as example and see the differece for themselves. ANd say wow this is different and looks if I had know about this as an alternative I would have gotten it. Or something similar to that effect.

I mean as far as I could remember in 95 when the first windows 95 came out. When I had taken a look at it it was like well so what its more graphical than the old windows 3.1/3.11. But does it need to do what it needs to do without giving the BSOD. I personally was always looking for something more different than what was out there way back then. Even now until I found Ubuntu and found that it was more perfect for me here.


I have a friend in Edinburgh who deals in SGI stuff:
http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/sgidepot/

Africa? shouldn't be a problem:
http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/sgidepot/uruguay.html
(yeah, I know that's not Africa...)

xmastree
May 1st, 2006, 03:30 AM
As for performance, here's a snippet from an email from that guy.

"A decent O2 would be nice though, and much quicker, eg. an R12K/400
O2 would startup FireFox as fast as a good PC (my Octane R12K/400
runs it up quicker than the P4/1.8GHz PC I have, and of course the
Octane is far more responsive).

On the other hand, the Indy would win absolutely hands down with
respect to doing multiple tasks at the same time, and for fiddling
with simple video editing, displaying live video in a window, while
doing other things like writing a CD."

Bearing in mind that the indy has a maximim of 180MHz CPU, that's pretty impressive.

Compucore
May 1st, 2006, 05:47 AM
You know what would be really interesting to see here. Whether it was from the regular vendor like Intel and AMD, or something from the larger companies like Sun microsystems, and SGI. I remember Cray had a video out for their SV2 parallel vector processing supercomputer. Where they were explaining the processor that they were using in it. I'm going from memory here about it. I still have the video here on one of my other computers here to refresh my memory later. They had shown the processor that they were using which was a large chip in the range of 4 by 4 inch in length and width I think roughly. Where they had 4 CPU's and 4 8 meg caches on board. Power hungry that it is though requires liquid cooled instead of being aired cooled like what we have in todays modern desktop. What would be neat to see is to have that kind of CPU available for the home computer. That could run our favorite OS that we use on the desktop. I'll have to take a look into it again. I do not know if it still available from cray to dwnload. Or if it somewhere else available to view. But its something to see in a home computer. Imagine the kind of whiplash you could get with that even at today's cpu speed and oodles of memory so that you could utilize all 4 chips at full power on ubuntu or windows. And playing the game that you like the most on that one.

Compucore

nalmeth
May 1st, 2006, 07:24 AM
Having computer's optimized to run Ubuntu would be amazing.
If not through SGI, wouldn't it be attractive, given growing success of ubuntu, for Canonical to be able to sell Ubuntu boxes?
They get no direct return giving away Ubuntu, this might be a good move.