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pasargad
June 26th, 2008, 10:08 PM
hello, i can not watch the videos from youtube while surfing anonymously, it says

Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.

how can i solve this problem,i try it in FF3 and opera 9

Nepherte
June 26th, 2008, 10:10 PM
And what is it exactly you use to surf anonymously? We need a little more than just "it doesn't work".

pasargad
June 26th, 2008, 10:24 PM
acctually i used different Anonymous sites such as
http://www.megaproxy.com/freesurf/ and
http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html

gali98
June 26th, 2008, 10:26 PM
that is the reason. It is not linux (unless of course you don't have java and flash installed) but the fact that the proxy you are using filters it out. There is usually an option to let it through.
Kory

pasargad
June 26th, 2008, 10:28 PM
what is it (the kory)?

gali98
June 26th, 2008, 10:29 PM
my name :P
usually there will be little check boxes at the top that let thing through. Just go to proxy.com or somewhere like that. I know those usually work.
Kory

Dr Small
June 26th, 2008, 10:30 PM
Try tor instead.

pasargad
June 26th, 2008, 10:31 PM
:p sorry..so there is not any solution:(

gali98
June 26th, 2008, 10:34 PM
:p sorry..so there is not any solution:(

hmmmm.... well yeah there is. Just try another proxy.
But first make sure you have flash installed....


sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

Then if you cant find the option for that proxy use another one.
Kory

Canis familiaris
June 26th, 2008, 10:35 PM
Try tor instead.

+1 for tor

pasargad
June 26th, 2008, 10:38 PM
hmmmm.... well yeah there is. Just try another proxy.
But first make sure you have flash installed....


sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

Then if you cant find the option for that proxy use another one.
Kory

i am sure that i installed flash,because i can watch videos when surf normal,what did you mean with another proxy,would i change the anonym. website

SyL
July 24th, 2008, 09:15 PM
As far as i understand TOR (http://torproject.org) is the best option for hide your IP to the server your are requesting.

But there is still one pain point: your ISP.
I assume that all ISPs keep logs about the traffic going through their service. Therefore your ISP will know what your are looking at ...


Am i right?

SyL
July 31st, 2008, 09:29 AM
As far as i understand TOR (http://torproject.org) is the best option for hide your IP to the server your are requesting.

But there is still one pain point: your ISP.
I assume that all ISPs keep logs about the traffic going through their service. Therefore your ISP will know what your are looking at ...


Am i right?



After further search i found this post:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=720035&highlight=TOR+ISP


Computer -> tor tunnel entry -> ISP -> tor node -> tor node -> tor exit node -> Site Server
Tor on the other hand, obscures where you are connecting from and encrypts your packets until they are well away from your own connection, preventing your ISP from spying on you and preventing the target servers from identifying where you are.
So TOR protect your privacy even from your ISP!!

Big_Croc7
July 31st, 2008, 09:43 AM
Yes, TOR is quite effective at stopping your ISP from seeing what you are looking at on the web. A side-effect is that the server you are connecting to can't easily find out where the connection is actually coming from. However, this doesn't work if you have javascript enabled - javascript can be manipulated to reveal your actual IP address, and hence location, to the server. If you want to be anonymous on the web, don't use javascript or flash (or, do it from an internet cafe).

SyL
August 6th, 2008, 10:24 AM
Tor Firefox button does protect your from some javascript though:
https://www.torproject.org/torbutton/faq.html.en


But Flash is still dangerous!
It is however a bad idea to view videos via Tor because of the bandwidth demands involved (multiplied by four due to routing it via 3 nodes - which you are asking volunteers to carry) and the lower speed. In addition, pushing large volumes of traffic through Tor makes it slower for everyone else.http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=164605

t0p
August 6th, 2008, 10:40 AM
Tor Firefox button does protect your from some javascript though:
https://www.torproject.org/torbutton/faq.html.en


But Flash is still dangerous! http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=164605

Dangerous?! Where you get that idea from? That stuff you quoted said you shouldn't watch vids over tor because of the load it'd put on volunteer servers. Nothing about danger!!

SyL
August 6th, 2008, 02:00 PM
Dangerous?! Where you get that idea from? That stuff you quoted said you shouldn't watch vids over tor because of the load it'd put on volunteer servers. Nothing about danger!!






Right, i have quoted this part as i could say better then this guy why it's not a good idea to use TOR for watch Flash based videos.


Regarding the privacy concern for flash, here you go:


I hate to spill the beans, but it is extremely difficult to watch flash movies anonymously. That P2K didn't notice this speaks wonders about him. Flash is actually by far the easiest method of obtaining a tor user's real ip address. See www.fortconsult.net/images/pdf/tpr_100506.pdf (http://www.fortconsult.net/images/pdf/tpr_100506.pdf) and www.fortconsult.net/images/pdf/Practical_Onion_Hacking.pdf (http://www.fortconsult.net/images/pdf/Practical_Onion_Hacking.pdf) for a few of many examples of this.

As Paranoid2000 has been kind enough to point out to me and others personally, you really do need to firewall your browser. After doing that please tell me if that ruins flash or not.

(...)

While the PDF files are interesting, the first document states "One simple possibility for unmasking a Tor client is simply to get a shockwave flash file to play in a suspects machine, thereby executing a command causing it to connect out BYPASSING TOR!"

bbqsandwich
August 6th, 2008, 02:18 PM
Use NoScript (http://noscript.net/) in conjunction with Tor to give you site-by-site control over Javascript and Flash execution.

SyL
August 6th, 2008, 02:31 PM
Use NoScript (http://noscript.net/) in conjunction with Tor to give you site-by-site control over Javascript and Flash execution.


https://www.torproject.org/torbutton/faq.html.en

TOR people do not recommand to use NOScript.

bbqsandwich
August 6th, 2008, 04:30 PM
https://www.torproject.org/torbutton/faq.html.en

TOR people do not recommand to use NOScript.

Interesting... so the safest method is to use Flashblock (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433) or something like that which only handles Flash and not Javascript?

bbqsandwich
August 6th, 2008, 04:34 PM
Also, what about this: http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20070926/de-anonymizing-tor-and-detecting-proxies/

?

SyL
August 7th, 2008, 10:01 AM
Interesting... so the safest method is to use Flashblock (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433) or something like that which only handles Flash and not Javascript?


Actually if you use Firefox TOR button, there is by default this interesting feature: https://www.torproject.org/torbutton/design/#plugins

This will disable all the plugins (therefore flash player), as some of them are bypassing the proxy settings and directly using your IP.

SyL
August 7th, 2008, 10:12 AM
Also, what about this: http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20070926/de-anonymizing-tor-and-detecting-proxies/

?


Really nice article!

Not sure if this feature https://www.torproject.org/torbutton/design/#jshooks will change something. I'll try from home, as i cannot use TOR at work (but I do use NOScript).

SyL
August 25th, 2008, 02:19 PM
Really nice article!

Not sure if this feature https://www.torproject.org/torbutton/design/#jshooks will change something. I'll try from home, as i cannot use TOR at work (but I do use NOScript).


Ok, i tried it!
And this javascript does NOT work with TOR: http://ha.ckers.org/weird/tor.cgi
That means this jshooks works against this kind of javascripts!

Really impress by TOR and TORbutton :-)

lancest
August 28th, 2008, 03:17 AM
Can someone tell me where to get tor? This is purposely blocked where I am at. http://www.torproject.org/

SyL
August 29th, 2008, 06:38 PM
Can someone tell me where to get tor? This is purposely blocked where I am at. http://www.torproject.org/


It's in the Ubuntu's repository



sudo apt-get install tor

okyes
November 12th, 2008, 11:25 AM
:p sorry..so there is not any solution:(

Hello, i'm a new for this forum.
i've read your discussion about "surf anonymous".
I use Firefox and i have your same problem.
In the discussion i've not found any solution and so i'd want to know if you have solved the problem.

SyL
November 25th, 2008, 01:18 PM
Hello, i'm a new for this forum.
i've read your discussion about "surf anonymous".
I use Firefox and i have your same problem.
In the discussion i've not found any solution and so i'd want to know if you have solved the problem.


Hi,

did you try to use TOR?
That's definitely the best option!