Civilization IV

[zorkerz]

I am a huge fan of the civ series since early civ II. Lately i have taken to playing freeciv in ubuntu breezy because im to lazy to run windows for civ III. As civilization IV has come out this week I was wondering if anyone has attempted or plans to attemp to play it in breezy, through wine or wineX, I avoid cedega because i don't want to pay the fees. Its half the reason im on ubuntu. Anyway I would like to find out the status of playing Civ IV on Ubuntu.

[Takis]

I'm buying it, hopefully today. I'll give it a go and let you know it goes. Civ rocks!

[AndersAA]

REALLY doubt it'll run, but you never know. btw there's a thread about civ4 on the gentoo forums aswell.

[edemark]

I'm buying it, hopefully today. I'll give it a go and let you know it goes. Civ rocks!

Hi just a quick question did it actually work?
Shall I just buy Civ IV?

thanks

[bored2k]

Keep track of what people all over the Linux community think here:
http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=4003

http://transgaming.org/gamesdb rocks.

[souled]

People can get it to install, but they can't run it. I think it has something to do with the copywrite protection. Err... that's on cedega.

[AndersAA]

doesn't work YET I'd say.

Also see http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-395945.html

quoting myself:

well this game's 3d engine isn't all that, the system requirements are "1 GHz CPU, 256MB RAM, and a 32MB video card with hardware transform and lighting capabilities.", which doesn't say anything about pixel shaders and other fancy features that can be hard to emulate. Also I've heard people running this on windows98, I wouldn't give up hope of seing this working in cedega or even directxwine fairly fast.

//edit 1

"The Graphics Engine Civilization IV will be using is the NDL's Gamebryo 3D graphics engine. Firaxis' PC hit, Sid Meier's Pirates! also uses it.", and if I remember correctly pirates does work in some emulators.

//edit 2

http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-devel/2005/01/0460.html :)

[rejser]

by the way, why win for civ 3, works perfekt under wine-cvs

[Takis]

Hi just a quick question did it actually work?
Shall I just buy Civ IV?

thanks
GRRRRRRR
It's not even out down here yet! Another week, they told me. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[rejser]

Installed it, cold dead when try to run.... damn it!

[jatos]

Does cedega run windows apps that are not games such as such as office, if yes I tempted to get cedega and run CIV IV in it

[rejser]

cedega don't run civ iv at the moment, tried that.
but maybe cedega 5 that will come in a while

[fragmental]

anyone tried it using a nocd crack? I mean, if you own the game, it's at least morally justified and possibly necessary for running it in linux. some of that cd check stuff is nasty.

[zorkerz]

Ive been checking megagames and game copy world for a crack but havent found one yet. If anyone finds one let me know. Its still earlie generally takes a couple weeks a least for one to come out. Once it does we can check it out. That is if anyone can stop playing civ long enough.

[rejser]

megagames has a nointro fix, test if it works!!

[jadugarr]

I'm a big fan of the Civ series as well and bought it as soon as it came out. Haven't tried running it using winex yet though, but i doubt it will work well enough right now, so i boot into windows to play it. Thats all I do in windows though, I forgot how annoying it was. Maybe if enough people bug transgaming they will try to make it officially supported. I would definitely shell out the dough for cedega if it supported civ4.

[graabein]

Since Civ IV (and III) is coming to the Mac (http://www.insidemacgames.com/news/story.php?ID=12295) does this mean it is opengl and easily made to run native on Linux as well?

I tried it yesterday (on Windows XP) and I was really impressed! It looks like a winner. And I love I + II but did not like III at all... Looking forward to getting into it! :D

[Brad wilkinson]

well if it runs on ubuntu, someone tell me how to get it going please?

'cause it certainly doesn't run on my XP system, dammit!

[AndersAA]

Since Civ IV (and III) is coming to the Mac (http://www.insidemacgames.com/news/story.php?ID=12295) does this mean it is opengl and easily made to run native on Linux as well?

I tried it yesterday (on Windows XP) and I was really impressed! It looks like a winner. And I love I + II but did not like III at all... Looking forward to getting into it! :D

hm, it is directx though, that I'm pretty sure of. And if it was opengl chances are it'd "just work" in wine/cedega right away.

[blitz666]

This is one of the reasons I keep a dual boot...

Civ IV runs on XP (well, somewhat... I am having issues with my VIA motherboard and ATI video board... replacing the former now) and yet, have issues installing it in Ubuntu.

I tried installing it in Ubuntu using wine, and it froze when I needed to put in disc two. Well, it did not really "freeze" freeze, meaning I could terminate the program no sweat, but my DVD-RW drive shut itself off until I restarted the PC. I suppose this means that regular wine is not good enough for Civ IV eh?

[earobinson]

would love to see a how to on how to get this to work, will it run with wine or just cedaga?

[jadugarr]

would love to see a how to on how to get this to work, will it run with wine or just cedaga?
It currently won't run using any version of cedega or wine. Some people have been able to install it using cedega, but it won't play. Civ4 is the only reason I ever boot in XP.

[earobinson]

im sure people will figure it out eventualy.... and when they do and if there is a good how to ill buy the game....

[Purplexus]

Cedega Is having troubles with the version of Direct X that Civ 4 is using.

Supposedly it is a beta version which hasn't even been released yet although it it has been labled as Directx 9.0c its not really 9.0c

It will be a while before Cedega gets it running i'm sure.

Civ 4 though has a very easy "linux friendly" engine to manipulate and mod.
mostly using XML and Python files. As soon as they get this one working on Linux you will see Modding like never seen before in the Civilization world.

Until then I too will keep a XP partition open.

Best Civilization episode ever!

[jadugarr]

Hey, everyone can keep up w/ civilization for linux at this website www.civ4linux.com. Seeing how so many people want to get the game to run in linux I think its only a matter of time until cedega will support it. I certainly would buy a cedega subscription just for civ4.

[earobinson]

good link

we should all email support and demand a linux port

For US Support
Phone: 1-866-219-9839
Email: usa@take2support.com

For Canadian Support
Phone: 1-800-638-0127
Email: canada@take2support.com

Note: If you need help with a PC title please attach your DxDiag and MSinfo when emailing us. For instructions on how to get this information look here.
http://www.2kgames.com/index.php?product=230%2C3%2CSid+Meier%27s+Civiliza tion+IV%2CPC%2C2K_Games%2Cciv4&p=support

I know it wouldent do much or anything but I think that the ubuntu community is getting large enoughf to at least start to put pressure on companies to support linux

[Jave27]

Here is a thread with a detailed step-by-step on how to do it, but you will need Cedega, and they say it's a little buggy at times: Transgaming's Forum (http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=28753#28753).

[Neo40]

Hi,

So far, it seems civ IV does not work? :( Please, if someone has good results let me know! And if it works, does my 1.2Ghz cpu will be enough to run this game?

Thanks

[blitz666]

As far as I recall, the minimum was a 1.4gHz, though, I will double check for you when I get home (approx 1900h EST, 0000h GMT).

Maybe you can buy a bigger fan and overclock?

[AndersAA]

it does run, information at the gentoo forums if I remember correctly.

[Neo40]

After hours of work, I have been able to install Civ IV and patch 1.52 correctly.
The problem I have now is some fonts in game are not visible. I think thats because I can't launch the game if I check "Free Type and XRender" in Cedega. So, I have to uncheck it to be able to start the game. Anyone has a solution to this?

Thanks for any help!

EDIT: Problem solve: I forgot to install ms-fonts

[blitz666]

Is there any way to install Civ to run in a free emulator? I do not have Cedega, only wine... can someone point me to a howto?

[veritas366]

Thought I'd give the new Cedega a try as the last time I tried (and paid for) it sucked. Supposed to support KOTOR but couldn't get anywhere on the install. No support...languished in the support requests.

Glad I tried the demo so I don't waste any more money on them. I realize Civ 4 is not supported, but it wouldn't even attempt to install. The first time, it started the install wizard and froze my entire system, not even the kill program could kill it.

Second, third, fourth, etc times it just sits there. Nothing happens on the program nothing happens in the terminal. no error message. No "install wizard" nothing.

there may be something peculiar about my system that makes it not work, but an error message of some kind would be nice.

[Guns90]

Hello everyone,

I've had Ubuntu 5.10 on a dual boot for 3 days now. Being a noob at LInux (and computer dysfunctional in the first place), I'm here to ask some questions before I try to install Civ IV in Ubuntu.

I'm not much of a gamer, so I won't pay to play games. It's been a couple of months since there was a posting here, so I'd like to ask; has anyone come up with a non-Cedega way to play Civ IV (which I already possess)?

At least half of the reason I'm dumping Windows is $$. If Cedega REALLY is that much better than Wine, I might consider it being the only money I spend on this OS. Is Cedega good for ALL Windows OS applications or is it still a work in progress that I should practice patience?

If someone is experienced in these programs, I'd sure appreciate some good advice before I load something that won't work and doesn't want to unload later. Thanks.

[ZylGadis]

You should check Cedega's site for things that work. No, in no case does it support all windows-native programs. And, as far as I know, it doesn't support Civ4 either.
Also, you have to be aware that (unlike wine) Cedega is not "work in progress" in the meaning you have. Cedega is a commercial product, and will support programs which bring it sales. There is no goal to be able to migrate all of windows - again, unlike wine.

[Guns90]

Thanks ZylGadis, that makes things a little clearer....Wine will probably work on more non-gaming applications while Cedega does the opposite, which actually causes me to pay to play.

Here's a copy from Transgaming.com's website that I got just today, so it appears that Cedega does support CIV IV now...

TORONTO, ON – February 15, 2006 – TransGaming Technologies (TSX-V: TNG – “TransGaming”), a leader in the development of software portability products for cross-platform gaming, today announced the release of Cedega™ 5.1, which features support for some of the newest blockbuster PC titles such as Sid Meier’s Civilization® IV, FIFA ® 06 and Need for Speed ™: Most Wanted.

[zorkerz]

If you are dual booting already I think it would be much less of a hassle to run civ in windows unless cegeda works well. I have refused to use cegeda its just what id like to avoid in linux but they do support a large number of games. I still dual boot into windows just so i can play games, its nice to keep an eye on how the world of windows is ailing at anytime.
elias

[Intangir]

ive been running it in cedega

sometimes it fails to start (says i dont have the CD) i just eject, remount. try again. usually works after 2-3 tries

runs pretty well, barely slower than on windows
the game is pretty slow in general, especially between turns but thats not windows or cedgas fault..


i use cedega, i figure all the work they put into it, and how they let users vote on whats more important makes up for the small cost.. also you can let your subscription expire after 1 month and its not like it stops working or anything, you just wont get updates

[Guns90]

zorkerz, I don't have a clue as to the 'why', but CIV IV is messing up real bad in Windows since I did the dual boot. It might have something to do with the partitions? Anyway, after twice doing an uninstall and then reinstalling, it keeps locking up the computer 4 out 5 times while it's booting up. The 5th time I get the game up and running, but not far into it, my computer does a reboot on it's own. I'm not going to reformat again. In case you were wondering, that's the reason I was inquiring about Wine/Cedega.

[Rikostan]

I love all of the Civ games, but I just switch over to my windows machine to play Civ 4. hat machine is always running anyways and since I use a KVM switch, it's cake to get a game up and going in just a few minutes. I can also switch back to my main ubuntu machine and get some real work done in between turns too.

[Guns90]

Intangir, which version of Cedega are you using?

[zorkerz]

Theres no argueing that civ for has some major performance issues, the patches fix alot but it still has some bad designes. Also I agree it would be wonderful to play it all without rebooting in ubuntu. I'm just stingy its painful enough to pay for games, Though fully worth it. I love civ.
elias

[Intangir]

one of the newer version. like 5.1 or 5.1.2 i dont know..

the civ is patched to 1.61 (newest last i saw) it works fine for me

[Takis]

Here's a long shot, but: I'm trying to use VMWare Server to run Civ 4 with their experimental DirectX implementation. I manage to install it okay but when I run, the OSD which says "Init XML"　, etc starts up fine, but as soon as that's finished, firstly the cutscenes don't play (acceptable) but secondly the main screen music starts but after a couple of seconds the VM blue-screens.

Has anybody tried using VMWare to run games "under Linux" (using DirectX)?

[Ek0nomik]

How do you install the 1.61 patch with Cedega?