View Full Version : gimpshop- a good idea?
commodore
October 27th, 2005, 01:05 PM
I'm currently using photoshop. As I started to use Ubuntu and OSS I thought I should start using GIMP instead of photoshop. Should I use gimpshop or re-learn and just use GIMP? If someone is giving help to me about gimp and I have gimpshop then I can't follow him.
landotter
October 27th, 2005, 01:11 PM
I'm currently using photoshop. As I started to use Ubuntu and OSS I thought I should start using GIMP instead of photoshop. Should I use gimpshop or re-learn and just use GIMP? If someone is giving help to me about gimp and I have gimpshop then I can't follow him.
Just use Gimp. Photoshop and Gimp both have complex interfaces, I don't find one much better than the other, though I prefer Gimp simply because I'm used to it. I do love Gimp's dockable dialogs, and I think the overall menu structure makes more sense--but that's all very subjective. ;)
Gimpshop is not available via apt-get, which is a dealbreaker imho.
If you're a hard-core photoshop user--be aware, it runs fantasically on Linux via Crossover Office. I still prefer Gimp for my modest needs.
ember
October 27th, 2005, 02:07 PM
I find the GIMP interface much more intuitive than Photoshop one. Yet, I should add that handling text in Photoshop is so much better - I hope that will improve with GIMP 2.4.
fuscia
October 27th, 2005, 03:52 PM
I find the GIMP interface much more intuitive than Photoshop one.
i do too. i can't really figure out why though. it seems more logical, as well. (probably just gas.)
dude2425
October 27th, 2005, 06:12 PM
Just use Gimp. Photoshop and Gimp both have complex interfaces, I don't find one much better than the other, though I prefer Gimp simply because I'm used to it. I do love Gimp's dockable dialogs, and I think the overall menu structure makes more sense--but that's all very subjective. ;)
Gimpshop is not available via apt-get, which is a dealbreaker imho.
If you're a hard-core photoshop user--be aware, it runs fantasically on Linux via Crossover Office. I still prefer Gimp for my modest needs.
As for dockable dialogs, if you mean the ability to drag one doohicky thing like color chooser or layers on the bottom of another and make it as one, then I know for a fact that photoshop had that. If that's not what you mean then I have no idea about this feature and would love to hear about it.
I'm a big fan of photoshop. When I switched to Linux, I really missed it and couldn't really get the feal for GIMP, and to this day I still can't. The only thing I can possibly do is ignore photoshop, and all the talk of crossover office, and just TRY to use GIMP, in the spirit of F/OSS. I wish though, Adobe would make a version of photoshop that would run on Linux. Just as long as it will run on the most commonly used CPU archetecture, then it would recieve welcome reception, but I really miss photoshop. I don't even dual boot with windows, so that idea's out, and anything with "virtual" in the word, or involving wine/crossover office is out for me atleast.
I've tried GIMPShop when it was first concieved by compiling it from source in Hoary. I didn't really like it all too much. Sure, the menu's were photoshop'ish, and some things were renamed for a photoshop'esqness, but other than that, it was still the same GIMP. Sure you can get the photoshop key-cammands, but it is still a sheep in wolves clothing. I wouldn't recomend it really. Just try to get a feel for GIMP, and do without, or dual boot, or do what I would never do and emulate windows for it if you need it that desperately.
commodore
October 28th, 2005, 04:12 AM
At first I thought ok GIMP is just an app to replace photoshop. They don't have money, they're just doing it at home. But now I have seen many things about GIMP that are better than photoshop's.
Pekkalainen
October 30th, 2005, 06:11 PM
For me, GIMP is far superiour to Photoshop. It took a couple of hours and a hefty dose of bad words but now I am more used to GIMP and I feel I can do more with it. The only thing that GIMP does worse is text handling.
kperkins
October 31st, 2005, 08:36 AM
Gimp and Photoshop, both, have their strengths and weaknesses. I ain't gonna get into that. :D I use Gimp, once you learn it, it does about everything Photshop does, and some things that PS doesn't. Text support sucks, animated gifs are harder to fine tune (I know PS doesn't really "do"animated gifs, but since the prog that does it--it's been so long I forget its name--is bundled with it, we'll say that it does), so I use gifsicle (which Gimp developers should look into for an animated gif helper plugin, or something) to help me on that some times, and it still doesn't have CMYK support, but I use it and love it, as much as I did PS.
23meg
October 31st, 2005, 08:50 AM
If you don't mind putting in a couple hours a day into it for about a week, learn the original GIMP. Gimpshop is likely to lag behind after each GIMP update, and Photoshop itself has major menu structure changes with each version.
As for the neverending debate, if you won't be doing serious print (read: CMYK) work GIMP is overall just as capable as Photoshop for general use. As for specifics, they each have their own strengths; you don't have automatic multi image color temperature correction in GIMP, and you don't have the open flexibility Python-fu / Script-fu in Photoshop.
Vidar
October 31st, 2005, 05:12 PM
Biggest problem with The GIMP as I see it is that it's not intuitive enugh, and lacks good tools for digital painting (the brush-system in Photoshop CS rocks) using a graphic tablet.
majikstreet
October 31st, 2005, 05:17 PM
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but can anybody recommend some tutorials for Gimp? They are VERY hard to find compared to Photoshop......
(I probably just don't have the talent to design anyway - I've used Gimp, Photoshop, and Paint Shop Pro, but I just don't have talent.... PS: I've used Photoshop in two situations: In a camp and Illegally :rolleyes:
commodore
November 1st, 2005, 07:18 AM
Buy books or download pdf-s. GIMP doesn't have much tutorials, but there's loads of books and pdf-s.
majikstreet
November 1st, 2005, 10:09 AM
recommendations?
23meg
November 1st, 2005, 10:13 AM
http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/gimp/tuts/
http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/
http://tigert.gimp.org/gimp/tutorials/the_bazaar_1999/
http://www.rru.com/~meo/gimp/Tutorial/
http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/gimp/tuts/
http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/
kperkins
November 1st, 2005, 10:45 AM
Biggest problem with The GIMP as I see it is that it's not intuitive enugh....
...and Photoshop is?
:shock: :roll: ](*,)
Vidar
November 4th, 2005, 12:59 PM
...and Photoshop is?
:shock: :roll: ](*,)
Since it's become the defacto standard it must have something atleast...
Looking at other nice painting/photoretouch-programs, such as Painter and Paintshop Pro, I've realised that they too tend to lean against the photoshop gui. Im not saying it's the best interface around, but it does the job quite well.
Anybody know of any nice oss programs for digital painting currently under development?
Stormy Eyes
November 4th, 2005, 01:39 PM
I'm currently using photoshop. As I started to use Ubuntu and OSS I thought I should start using GIMP instead of photoshop. Should I use gimpshop or re-learn and just use GIMP? If someone is giving help to me about gimp and I have gimpshop then I can't follow him.
Just use GIMP. All gimpshop does is fiddle with the menus to make them more like Photoshop. It's not worth using.
commodore
November 4th, 2005, 02:44 PM
Since it's become the defacto standard it must have something atleast...
Looking at other nice painting/photoretouch-programs, such as Painter and Paintshop Pro, I've realised that they too tend to lean against the photoshop gui. Im not saying it's the best interface around, but it does the job quite well.
Anybody know of any nice oss programs for digital painting currently under development?
I'm a digital painter too and I can't get even my wacom working on ubuntu. I'm also interested in OSS painting apps.
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