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sharks
June 12th, 2008, 08:51 AM
What are the features that u want to rope in from Windows and Mac OS X to linux.

sharks
June 12th, 2008, 08:58 AM
I will surely do a Time machine for linux as it is in Mac OS x.

MONODA
June 12th, 2008, 09:01 AM
none, linux should not try to implement features existing in other OSs but inovate, which is not what is happening... sadly

Trail
June 12th, 2008, 09:13 AM
I'd like the Windows' user base (i think). And vendor support. Only.

karellen
June 12th, 2008, 09:15 AM
if official support by OEM is a feature, I'd want this one

doorman
June 12th, 2008, 09:22 AM
The only thing I would like to see is driver availability for linux... And by that I mean that all hardware vendors should start making drivers for linux and keep them updated...

vishzilla
June 12th, 2008, 09:22 AM
Probably a backup utility like the Time Machine

Frak
June 12th, 2008, 09:25 AM
Too many to count.

SOOOO many features that could be incorporated.

keiichidono
June 12th, 2008, 09:49 AM
The only thing I would like to see is driver availability for linux... And by that I mean that all hardware vendors should start making drivers for linux and keep them updated...
Quoted for truth. This is all i want/need.

Robux the great
June 12th, 2008, 10:00 AM
Linux has all the features that I want. I don't miss windows at all.

Windows features I don't miss

BSOD
Unexplained freezes
Spyware
Viruses

Regards

Rob

billgoldberg
June 12th, 2008, 10:25 AM
I could do with something like vista's readyboost.

eragon100
June 12th, 2008, 11:08 AM
Voice control such as vista's (you can talk to browse the web, file manager, type into office...) :popcorn:

BTW I don't have winows on my pc, but from what I've heard, it actually works pretty well :) :confused: !

quinnten83
June 12th, 2008, 11:12 AM
I will surely do a Time machine for linux as it is in Mac OS x.

flyback?

quinnten83
June 12th, 2008, 11:13 AM
Probably a backup utility like the Time Machine

flyback?

cardinals_fan
June 12th, 2008, 03:31 PM
Voice control such as vista's (you can talk to browse the web, file manager, type into office...) :popcorn:

Watch the video of some guy trying to write a Perl script with it. It was really pathetic.

aysiu
June 12th, 2008, 03:58 PM
From Windows: System restore

From Mac: Repair permissions

Frak
June 12th, 2008, 04:12 PM
From Windows: System restore

From Mac: Repair permissions
If I had one choice from both, those would DEFINITELY be it.

ricojonah
October 27th, 2009, 11:18 AM
I could do with something like vista's readyboost.

I definitely second this suggestion. There really are a clever set of ideas behind this feature.

Windows Vista/7 and Linux both have ways to cache data from the hard drive in a system's RAM (Superfetch for Windows, preload and readahead for Linux), but Linux doesn't seem to have any way to use a removable SD/USB drive as a secondary cache that works in tandem with a memory cache.

Many SD and USB flash drives are capable of reading information faster than hard disks. While they're certainly not as fast as actual RAM, they can serve as an excellent, additional resource for caching your often-used programs and files. A removable storage device might not be much faster than, say, your 7200rpm terabyte hard drive, but anything that can reasonably used to create a larger cache can reduce the amount of actual disk usage (I/O operations) that's going on when you've got several programs fighting for such an often-scarce resource.



Considering that disk I/O is one of the slowest bottlenecks to any system, this seems like an area where extending preload's or readahead's functionality could really make a noticeable difference. (Of course, it's always easier said than done!)

cascade9
October 27th, 2009, 11:39 AM
Many SD and USB flash drives are capable of reading information faster than hard disks.

Yes...if your talking circa 1999 drives. I have yet to see any USB flash drive go over 35MB/sec, and even if they did, USB 2.0 has a maximum speed of 60MB/sec (and you wont see that thanks to overheads). Thats quite a bit slower than modern HDDs, some of which are faster than 100MB/sec (1st sector, speeds would drop to 60MB/sec for the last sector)

ricojonah
October 27th, 2009, 12:19 PM
That's definitely true when it comes to throughput (MB/s), especially when it comes to write-operations on a flash drive.

But there are other factors to consider where flash-based drives have an advantage, especially for use as a cache. For example, flash-drives, not having all of the mechanical parts, typically have a much lower seek time. This is especially important when many non-sequential reads and writes have to be performed (like working with multiple files or applications simultaneouly).

You're right though--modern hard drives have the advantage over removable flash media when it comes to throughput. That makes for an excellent argument for allowing a hard disk to serve as a cache for a system's other drives & filesystems.

With either case (flash-based or hard disks), a disk-based cache could show a performance benefit even if the cache was slower than the main disk. The cache could be read in parallel with actual disk (so long as the amount read from the disk vs the cache was proportionate to each's capabilities). This would still effectively reduce the I/O and throughput that would otherwise be required from the main disk.

If I remember right, that's somewhat similar to how Readyboost works for Windows--but I'm rusty with ReadyBoost. I don't use Windows that much anymore. :D

Frak
October 27th, 2009, 04:30 PM
Put a swap file on your flash drive and mount it. Instant ReadyBoost.

handy
October 28th, 2009, 03:32 AM
To answer the OP, (& I run an alu' 2007 iMac), I need to use OS X, for only one thing. (Web page design & maintenance)

The rest of my stuff I'm so much happier to do in Arch.

Arch gives me the options to adjust just about everything!

OS X, allows me to adjust so little; & it hides the vast majority of the system from all of us, except the one's that are truly interested in pursuing the paths required to be able to look.

Then when you do look, you (I) think, boy, what an ugly mess that is.

That's not to say that I don't like my iMac. I just don't like OS X. :)

Yeh! I know there are all of those price point arguments that can go with the above statements. But they are someone else's problem. As I'm really quite happy that I bought the iMac for the job that it has to do. :)

coldReactive
October 28th, 2009, 07:41 AM
Windows and MacOS Compatibility, STABLE COMPATIBILITY.

That's all I need. As well as the wide driver base for printers/scanners/etc.

Earl_Maroon
October 28th, 2009, 07:56 AM
I'd like a nicer file manager in Gnome, like Finder.

handy
October 28th, 2009, 10:22 AM
I'd like a nicer file manager in Gnome, like Finder.

There is NO accounting for taste.

I despise the OS X, Finder.

I consider it to be an incredibly primitive & inefficient tool for the job.

So there you go...

One person's meat is another person's poison... :)

ricojonah
October 28th, 2009, 10:48 AM
Put a swap file on your flash drive and mount it. Instant ReadyBoost.

Thanks for the suggestion, but a Linux Swap partition isn't anything like Readyboost. ReadyBoost is much more similar to other adaptive, read-ahead daemons (like preload and readahead), except that it extends the caching (not swapping) functionality of physical memory by adding removable storage (sort of like a secondary cache).

A linux swap file is rather the equivalent of a Windows page file. Unlike ReadyBoost, a system doesn't assertively use a swap as a cache to reduce disk i/o for other disks. Instead, it's generally used on an as-needed basis when your system runs low on physical memory. It's primary goal is to prevent the system from running out of memory--not to improve performance.

Even worse, using a flash-based drive as a swap is a fairly quick way kill it. The intensive write-operations used in a swap aren't designed for flash-based media, where a limited number of writes can be done before the drive is no longer usable. ReadyBoost, on the other hand, was designed with those limitations in mind. It's arguably much better about handling when/how to write the cache to a flash drive.

I really do wish it could be something more simple though (if it were, the awesome developer communities would have probably already implemented a disk-bases readahead/preloader). Having this kind of functionality would be a great way to boost performance on relatively older systems.

TheLastDodo
October 28th, 2009, 11:55 AM
There is NO accounting for taste.

I despise the OS X, Finder.

I consider it to be an incredibly primitive & inefficient tool for the job.

So there you go...

One person's meat is another person's poison... :)

Finder's definitely lacking, and having used OS X for some years now, I found Cocoatech's Pathfinder file manager to be a far better tool for the job. You can make it as simple or complex as you like; it's sort of the Konqueror of OS X, only a bit more user-friendly and not as annoying to customize. :D

mamamia88
October 28th, 2009, 12:11 PM
i would like flash to work as well as in windows and i would like move media to release there media plugin for firefox. if they did that i would drop windows in a second

handy
October 28th, 2009, 09:38 PM
Finder's definitely lacking, and having used OS X for some years now, I found Cocoatech's Pathfinder file manager to be a far better tool for the job. You can make it as simple or complex as you like; it's sort of the Konqueror of OS X, only a bit more user-friendly and not as annoying to customize. :D

I use Worker (DOpus clone) in Arch, I think it is available for OS X too. I stay out of the OS X side of my iMac as much as possible, so I haven't bothered installing Worker, which is, by the way, highly configurable also.

hanzomon4
October 29th, 2009, 02:46 AM
A rock solid and working AUDIO SOUND SYSTEM... my god since my first Ubuntu, 5.10, audio has been a nightmare for many people. Audio works ok now but some apps disconnect from pulse spontaneously.

handy
October 29th, 2009, 03:01 AM
A rock solid and working AUDIO SOUND SYSTEM... my god since my first Ubuntu, 5.10, audio has been a nightmare for many people. Audio works ok now but some apps disconnect from pulse spontaneously.

I don't use pulse. But I have found that the audio quality is creeping on us. In my experience the sound quality is better than it was say a year ago. My movies sound better than they did. There used to be a marked difference between watching a movie via VLC in OS X, & watching the same movie on the same machine in Arch/VLC.

There's not much in it now. My poor hearing impaired ears are satisfied now. :)

maflynn
October 30th, 2009, 03:40 PM
Time Machine type backup program and Adobe Lightroom are on my short list. Oh yeah and better printer driver support. I have a new printer (canon Pixma Pro9000 MKII) and its intolerable that I don't have any Linux drivers for it.