Interesting updates

[Bou]

Hi, There was a thread during Hardy development that people used to post new interesting updates and features. It would be handy to have something similar for Intrepid, so there it goes :)

Nautilus was updated today; now it has better keyboard navigation -pressing right on the right end will bring you to the next row, and vice versa- and a new view mode - I think it's called compressed mode.

Keep them coming!

[disturbedite]

how about jonathan riddell's kde 4.1b1 packages that break the system! lol
only cuz the rest of the packages that certain kde packages depend on have not hit the repo yet.

[Eclipse.]

how jonathan riddell's kde 4.1b1 packages that break the system! lol
only cuz the rest of the packages that certain kde packages depend on have not hit the repo yet.

kde4.1beta1 works fine with me, not that I tried it out for long though.

[ccw]

firefox 3.0 rc1 has been in for a week or so (its also in hardy-proposed BTW)

Perl 5.10 and gcc 4.3 are in

I'm seeing gnome 2.23 branch packages trickling in.

The transition to KDE4 as default has begun. I haven't logged into a kde session yet, but I suspect its in a broken state.

[ccw]

Via evolution backend updates: dependency on libdb4.7 has been introduced.

Almost everything else is dependent on libdb4.6. Is there a planned transition to the new branch?

[caryb]

kde4.1beta1 works fine with me, not that I tried it out for long though.

I wonder what I'm doing wrong or have missing:confused: until I can install kde4-core I basically have a kde4 shell to work with.



Cary

[ccw]

First 2.6.26 branch kernel came in this morning.

[BCurtisWX]

First 2.6.26 branch kernel came in this morning.

What type of improvements come in kernel updates, i never understood that. Any help would be appreciated!

[plun]

What type of improvements come in kernel updates, i never understood that. Any help would be appreciated!

Linus messages can be read at Kerneltrap

http://kerneltrap.org/Linus_Torvalds


Ubuntus kernel team then apply s Ubuntu specific patches.

[ccw]

What type of improvements come in kernel updates, i never understood that. Any help would be appreciated!

Here's what changed from 2.6.24 to 2.6.25. The 2.6.26 branch is still in development:

http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges

Does anyone know if there were major changes in either SATA HD or ext3?

I booted up to 2.6.26 and thought I was about to drop my HD (maxtor 6y080m0), it was scraping like crazy. I booted back to 2.6.24 and it went back to normal.

I skimmed through changelogs but nothing stood out.

[cecilpierce]

I've had the 26 kernel for a day and a half and I though I was hearing things with that cracklin noise.
The hard drive light is not on when the noise is, weird!
The kernel works great but the drive will soon smoke I guess, anybody know why ?
Thanks.
:confused:

[ccw]

I've had the 26 kernel for a day and a half and I though I was hearing things with that cracklin noise.
The hard drive light is not on when the noise is, weird!
The kernel works great but the drive will soon smoke I guess, anybody know why ?
Thanks.
:confused:

I think its the HD? Maybe its the speaker though?

[plun]

I think its the HD? Maybe its the speaker though?

No HD problems for me but I have rather high CPU and xorg is stucked on 20-30%. It can be a compiz problem.

First I also got stuttering and crackling sound but it was solved withelp
from psyche83 excellent guide.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578

(relevant parts)

-----------------------------------------------------

Pure eye-candy update today from Mac Slow....:)

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/2008-June/001946.html

[adamorjames]

An interesting update:
Synaptic now has something called "Quick search". It uses Xapian I read.

[durand]

Hi, There was a thread during Hardy development that people used to post new interesting updates and features. It would be handy to have something similar for Intrepid, so there it goes :)

Nautilus was updated today; now it has better keyboard navigation -pressing right on the right end will bring you to the next row, and vice versa- and a new view mode - I think it's called compressed mode.

Keep them coming!

It's compact view. Nautilus also feels a lot faster than hardy's version (or is it just me).

[Exsecrabilus]

Are you guys all talking about Intrepid?

If so, how do you know of all these features?
Did Alpha1 get released?

[ccw]

Are you guys all talking about Intrepid?

If so, how do you know of all these features?
Did Alpha1 get released?

Intrepid repos are open. Alpha CDs are just periodic snapshots/milestones of those repos.

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/

[ccw]

First I also got stuttering and crackling sound but it was solved withelp
from psyche83 excellent guide.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578


Did you experience this with 2.6.26, or was this an earlier issue (references hardy)?

My issue is definitely 2.6.26-1 kernel related. 2.6.24-19 is fine.

[plun]

Did you experience this with 2.6.26, or was this an earlier issue (references hardy)?

My issue is definitely 2.6.26-1 kernel related. 2.6.24-19 is fine.

This is on a Audigy2 card. I have had some trouble with crackling/stuttering sound with 2.6.24, worse with the 2.6.25 kernel
until I found this guide.

With 2.6.26 it was horrible, for example listening to LastFM.

I enabled the Ladspa plugin /the equalizer and I have been adjusting
these values

default-fragments = 8
default-fragment-size-msec = 5


A little crackling is left (sometimes) and its clearly CPU related.

Hopefully also "psyche83" can comment this.

[ShirishAg75]

No HD problems for me but I have rather high CPU and xorg is stucked on 20-30%. It can be a compiz problem.

First I also got stuttering and crackling sound but it was solved withelp
from psyche83 excellent guide.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578

(relevant parts)

-----------------------------------------------------

Pure eye-candy update today from Mac Slow....:)

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/2008-June/001946.html

Its also running high on my CPU, although xorg is good .
Sound is also an issue at my end on an Intel internal sound card

shirish@Mugglewille:~$ lspci | grep audio
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)

Going down on 2.6.24-17 generic solves the issue.

Another thing padevchooser fails to open at my end. Please see if anybody has anything to add the same.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/padevchooser/+bug/240761

All and any help appreciated.

[| MM |]

An interesting update:
Synaptic now has something called "Quick search". It uses Xapian I read.

This is interesting... how quick is "Quick"?

[Exsecrabilus]

And where is Quick Search?

[adamorjames]

It is to the right of the Properties icon.

How quick is it:
Well I have seen some problems. Say you type in "comp", it doesn't show compiz as one of the results. You have to type "compiz" to get compiz to show. Hopefully this will get worked out. I still prefer the normal find (ctrl + f).

[ccw]

Dark theme just came in.

[fluteflute]

Dark theme just came in.
Screenshot please? :D

[psyke83]

Screenshot please? :D

Your wish is our command... ;)

The new theme set as default is called NewHuman, and the original Human-Murrine is still available (with some slight enhancements) for people who prefer lighter colours. Screenshots attached.

Hardy users can try these themes using Kenneth Wimer's PPA: https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive

Any constructive feedback on the themes would be appreciated by the art team, I'm sure.

[soccerboy]

Your wish is our command... ;)

The dark theme is called NewHuman, and the original Human-Murrine is still available (with some slight enhancements). Screenshots attached.

Hardy users can try these themes using Kenneth Wimer's PPA: https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive

It looks hard on the eyes. I don't think I like it too much (Yay for linux) I don't have to use it.

[psyke83]

It looks hard on the eyes.

Yep, that's true. I think you'll find it takes some time to accommodate to a dark theme (as I learned while working on UbuntuStudio). So in time you may grow to like it (or hate it more!). Yay for choice, though... ;)

[soccerboy]

Yep, that's true. I think you'll find it takes some time to accommodate to a dark theme (as I learned while working on UbuntuStudio). So in time you may grow to like it (or hate it more!). Yay for choice, though... ;)

I saw that the HumanMurrine theme also got switched to dark colors.

[psyke83]

I saw that the HumanMurrine theme also got switched to dark colors.

That was a temporary change in version 0.19. The dark theme is now separate.

[ccw]

Screenshot please? :D

Done.

My big complaint so far is the Firefox intergration: all of the UI elements (drop downs, text boxes) look odd in brown.

What's the expected result?: it looks brown on my desktops flat panel, but charcoal on my laptop.

[durand]

I really like this theme though dark themes are a love/hate it thing.

[Nullack]

The new theme doesnt work with the Ubuntu help and about Ubuntu pages. Blue just doesnt suit my eyes, especially on a darker background.

[Gina]

Don't like it personally - I don't like dark themes in general. I have Ubuntu-Studio available (in addition to standard Ubuntu) and I immediately changed the theme.

[soccerboy]

Not to offend any developers but is what is stated about GObject programming in this article true
http://www.devsource.com/c/a/Techniques/Getting-Rid-of-Gobject-Oriented-Programming/

Is it outdated?

[RAOF]

Not to offend any developers but is what is stated about GObject programming in this article true
http://www.devsource.com/c/a/Techniques/Getting-Rid-of-Gobject-Oriented-Programming/

Is it outdated?

It may well be true, but it's not about what you think it's about. It's got nothing to do with glib's object-oriented C implementation, gobject.

[Martje_001]

Is there any change the developers drop the dark theme and just go light again? It has to look clean, IMO..

[ccw]

I think the transition to KDE 4 is complete (everything looks to be at 4.0.83). Its seems to be working. Maybe a KDE-head can give better details.

[Lev.NL]

Is there any change the developers drop the dark theme and just go light again? It has to look clean, IMO..

I think the dark theme is used to debug GUIs in dark themes. I've read something about it some time ago but I can't remember where.

[plun]

I have seen the famous Gnome Tabs....:lolflag:

In Nautilus

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/2008-July/003889.html

:)

[durand]

I have seen the famous Gnome Tabs....:lolflag:

In Nautilus

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/2008-July/003889.html

:)

It's really cool :D There's also a restore from trash feature now, very useful...

btw, any way to configure the shortcuts for the tabs?

[plun]

It's really cool :D There's also a restore from trash feature now, very useful...

btw, any way to configure the shortcuts for the tabs?


Yup... really cool :) just misses PCMans root opening

The only way I can find to handle shortcuts/tabs is with a standard right click

also

gconf-editor > /apps/nautilus/ but its so many settings...


Maybe I also misunderstood your question ?

[durand]

Well, I guess shortcuts don't really matter..

PS: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/nautilus-scripts/Execute/Misc/root-nautilus-here

[olskar]

Nice update! However;

Require beagle 0.2.4

Why? :confused:

[amano]

Maybe this is just bad wording and Nautilus only works with beagle version 2.0.4 and up, but not with lower beagle version numbers?

[amano]

I have seen the famous Gnome Tabs....:lolflag:

In Nautilus

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/2008-July/003889.html

:)

Screenshot anyone?

[olskar]

Maybe this is just bad wording and Nautilus only works with beagle version 2.0.4 and up, but not with lower beagle version numbers?

I hope you are right, but it says it requires in the changeslist

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/2008-July/003889.html

[andrek]

Screenshot anyone?

This is how it looks on my Intrepid machine :
http://xs229.xs.to/xs229/08302/screenshot604.png.xs.jpg (http://xs229.xs.to/xs229/08302/screenshot604.png)

[Martje_001]

Wow, andrek, that looks beautiful. How did you get that window list (+ tray)?

[andrek]

Wow, andrek, that looks beautiful. How did you get that window list (+ tray)?

It's tint2 and trayer.
http://code.google.com/p/tint2/
trayer available from repos

tintrc ( /home/user/.config/tint/tintrc )

#---------------------------------------------
# TINT CONFIG FILE
#---------------------------------------------

#---------------------------------------------
# PANEL
#---------------------------------------------
panel_mode = multi_desktop
panel_monitor = 1
panel_position = bottom left
panel_size = 900 34
panel_margin = 0 0
panel_padding = 5 5
font_shadow = 0

#---------------------------------------------
# PANEL BACKGROUND AND BORDER
#---------------------------------------------
panel_rounded = 9
panel_border_width = 2
panel_background_color = #000000 0
panel_border_color = #000000 0

#---------------------------------------------
# TASKS
#---------------------------------------------
task_text_centered = 1
task_width = 200
task_margin = 5
task_padding = 3
task_icon_size = 0
task_font = NeutraTextLightSCAlt Bold 7.5
task_font_color = #ffffff 59
task_active_font_color = #ffffff 90

#---------------------------------------------
# TASK BACKGROUND AND BORDER
#---------------------------------------------
task_rounded = 3
task_background_color = #000000 40
task_active_background_color = #000000 55
task_border_width = 1
task_border_color = #d1d1d1 34
task_active_border_color = #d1d1d1 40

#---------------------------------------------
# CLOCK
#---------------------------------------------
#time1_format = %H:%M
time1_font = sans bold 8
#time2_format = %A %d %B
time2_font = sans 6
clock_font_color = #ffffff 75

#---------------------------------------------
# MOUSE ACTION ON TASK
#---------------------------------------------
mouse_middle = close
mouse_right = none
mouse_scroll_up = toggle
mouse_scroll_down = iconify



to open trayer, type ( or add to autostart ) :
trayer --edge bottom --align right --widthtype request --height 18 --expand false --transparent true --alpha 255 --margin 8 --distance 8

[amano]

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/2008-July/003942.html

* New upstream version:
New features and user visible changes:
- Added support for reading and extracting alz archives
- Added support for rzip compressed files
- Added support for creating self-extracting zip archives.
- Added ability to create multi-volume archives.
- Added support for header encryption. Implemented header encryption for
7zip and rar archives.
- Use the 7z command to read/write zip, cbr, cbz archives, and to
read cabinet, arj, rar and iso archives.
- Try to get the mime type from magic numbers if all other methods fail.
- Now the progress dialog is exact when adding, extracting or deleting
files for tar, zip, rar and 7zip archives (lp: #18250)
- Do not add the backup files, that is files ending with ~, to the archive.
- Operations are now more efficient for archives with a long file list.
Bugfixes:
- Fixed bug #343201 – Use p7zip for RAR archives? (lp: #44958)
- Fixed bug #529395 – file-roller will not open 256 AES zip files
- Fixed bug #515194 – PK 4.5 Zip files
- Fixed bug #519046 – add x-cbr and x-cbz support (lp: #196171)
- Fixed bug #336790 – file-roller can't open winzip-10 encrypted files
- Fixed bug #539629 – Create archive for Trash/Computer
- Fixed bug #506698 – 7z Filename (header) Encryption request
- Fixed bug #542541 – icon lookup code is broken
- Fixed bug #504584 – Incorrect comportment when extracting multi part
rar files.


One of the most interesting updates in GNOME 2.24 will be the improvements in file-roller: Since GNOME 2.22 it supports drag and drop to the desktop. And with the current alpha it uses 7-zip for handling zip and rar archives- which will bring a massive compatibility boost.

As my only question remains: With file-roller now relying on p7zip to open zip files, shouldn't p7zip be promoted to main then?

Can someone try to open a zip file without p7zip installed (eg. from the live desktop): Can the file still be opened?

[Nullack]

Yeah it should be moved to main. Im going to prge rars nonfree lib from my install and test it out.

[zombiepig]

The latest batch of evolution updates let evolution directly use google contacts as an addressbook source--that's a nice unexpected bonus! :)

[cicoandcico]

...
Since GNOME 2.22 it supports drag and drop to the desktop.

let's give credit to the actual authors of the work :) : the bug was not due to file-roller, but to nautilus, that didn't support drag-and-drop. a guy ported thunar's DnD capability to gnome's file manager (see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=546498). one of the side effect of his work was file-roller FINALLY working when dragging files to nautilus.

[amano]

Yes, you are right. The main effort was done by Amos Brocco (and the file-roller XDS port depended on his work). One of his patches still needs help BTW: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171655