$31,384.99 Mac Pro!!!

[handy]

I just maxed out a Mac Pro's configuration options at the Apple online store in Oz, with the exception of the Apple protection plan & the price was:

$31,384.99 Australian Dollars!

Which is currently:

$29,877.99 USD

Our house cost $20,000 Aus' 20 years ago for us to build, & after 20 years it is worth a great deal more.

What do you think that Mac will be worth in 20 years?

Zilch.

[karellen]

I've just did the same thing:
$23,869.90
anyway, nobody needs (affords?!) that kind of stuff at home. only if he is bill gates or steve jobs

[lisati]

Those prices could go a good way towards the price of a reasonable car......

(I was about to do a rant about my first PC costing double when new what my current laptop cost new but thought better of it)

[handy]

I've just did the same thing:
$23,869.90
anyway, nobody needs (affords?!) that kind of stuff at home. only if he is bill gates or steve jobs

I included the best choice of everything, the biggest monitor, wireless, 4 x 1Tb drives, nVidia Quadro.

But boy, that surely is a LOT of money for a computer.

They should change their name to Cray.

[karellen]

I included the best choice of everything, the biggest monitor, wireless, 4 x 1Tb drives, nVidia Quadro.

But boy, that surely is a LOT of money for a computer.

They should change their name to Cray.

I know, I was just trying to point out that only a company or a very wealthy individual would buy such a thing

[the6step]

I just maxed out a Mac Pro's configuration options at the Apple online store in Oz, with the exception of the Apple protection plan & the price was:

$31,384.99 Australian Dollars!

Which is currently:

$29,877.99 USD

Our house cost $20,000 Aus' 20 years ago for us to build, & after 20 years it is worth a great deal more.

What do you think that Mac will be worth in 20 years?

Zilch.

Top config in USD hits around 27,000, your about 3,000 off.

Second off, you configured it with not "1", but "2" Apple Cinema 30" Displays? Since when do monitors qualify as being apart of a computer configuration........

Configures it with top of the line graphics card for about 3,000.....

This is hilarious... a Fibre Channel Card? Do you really have an Xserve to even use this? ....

Buying an unlimited client version of Mac OS X 10.5 Server? Tell me in what twisted reality you would buy ONE Mac Pro and proceed to buy unlimited licenses for Server software.

Xsan... like I said, do you even have Xserve?

I find it VERY hard to believe that anyone would be using iWork, AND Final Cut Express 4, AND Aperture 2, AND Logic Express 8. It's not happening.

Raid Card with 4 Terabyte Hard Drives...... obviously expensive

Then of course you top it off with maxing out memory, a 10,000 value in itself.

[LaRoza]

Second off, you configured it with not "1", but "2" Apple Cinema 30" Displays? Since when do monitors qualify as being apart of a computer configuration........


When they are part of the configuration of course.

If you want to get down to it, only the chipset, processor and powersupply are needed.

I am not sure what you are refuting...

About the price, he is doing the calculation in his homeland, not in the USA. Prices of Macs are higher outside the USA (look at the "outragous" thread below somewhere to see this)

[the6step]

If you want to get down to it, only the chipset, processor and powersupply are needed.

I am not sure what you are refuting...


In that case let me pose this hypothetical question.

Let's say Apple started offering High End computer tables.

Let's say that Apple offered in their "Configure your Mac Pro" process one of said tables, for 2,000.

What your saying is that is that if Mac Pro's were to normally (let's throw out a number here) retail for $1000, these Mac Pros would be considered expensive because you can order a 2,000 table in the process?

Furthermore, would you be suggesting that a mere "table" is truly apart of a computer configuration?


Clearly this a ludicrous notion at the very "least".

[LaRoza]

In that case let me pose this hypothetical question.

Let's say Apple started offering High End computer tables.

Let's say that Apple offered in their "Configure your Mac Pro" process one of said tables, for 2,000.

What your saying is that is that if Mac Pro's were to normally (let's throw out a number here) retail for $1000, these Mac Pros would be considered expensive because you can order a 2,000 table in the process?

Furthermore, would you be suggesting that a mere "table" is truly apart of a computer configuration?

Clearly this a ludicrous notion at the very "least".

I don't know about the table concept, but many computer systems (note: systems) are sold with monitors. I know my first system came with a computer monitor of my choice. If I had chosen a more expensive monitor, the price of the system would have gone up. (It is part of the system because they are sold together. Although I got to chose the monitor, it was a different (lower) price than if I had bought it separately.

A computer system as a package usually includes everything that you need. The computer itself, some sort of input device set (keyboard + mouse) and some sort of output device (monitor, sometimes a printer). To say that a preconfigured system shouldn't include the entire package is ludicrous. It isn't like he went to the Apple site, chose the hardware, then went to another site and selected other items and included it in the same price.

[dusanx]

Nah, this is cheap :)

Just checked, basic $599 mac mini is actually $1104 in Serbia... so if you really want to stand out you should order above pro configuration from Serbian apple store (what would be the price? $50K? $60K?). Any other computer has very normal price here but I hear that Serbian macs do use higher quality components than macs from any other part of the world. If you are not convinced just look at the price...

[handy]

Top config in USD hits around 27,000, your about 3,000 off.

It was an accurate conversion at the time:

http://www.xe.com/ucc/


Second off, you configured it with not "1", but "2" Apple Cinema 30" Displays? Since when do monitors qualify as being apart of a computer configuration........

No I didn't I chose 1x 30" display.


Configures it with top of the line graphics card for about 3,000.....

This is hilarious... a Fibre Channel Card? Do you really have an Xserve to even use this? ....

I some how think you have missed the point on this one... :lolflag:


Buying an unlimited client version of Mac OS X 10.5 Server? Tell me in what twisted reality you would buy ONE Mac Pro and proceed to buy unlimited licenses for Server software.

I did not buy any copy of 10.5 Server in my pseudo purchase that created the quote??


Xsan... like I said, do you even have Xserve?

This post is making me think it is a result of the site crash! :lolflag:


I find it VERY hard to believe that anyone would be using iWork, AND Final Cut Express 4, AND Aperture 2, AND Logic Express 8. It's not happening.

Yep, I think the site crash has created some kind of aberration.


Raid Card with 4 Terabyte Hard Drives...... obviously expensive

Then of course you top it off with maxing out memory, a 10,000 value in itself.

Very obviously.

[the6step]

I don't know about the table concept, but many computer systems (note: systems) are sold with monitors. I know my first system came with a computer monitor of my choice. If I had chosen a more expensive monitor, the price of the system would have gone up. (It is part of the system because they are sold together. Although I got to chose the monitor, it was a different (lower) price than if I had bought it separately.

A computer system as a package usually includes everything that you need. The computer itself, some sort of input device set (keyboard + mouse) and some sort of output device (monitor, sometimes a printer). To say that a preconfigured system shouldn't include the entire package is ludicrous. It isn't like he went to the Apple site, chose the hardware, then went to another site and selected other items and included it in the same price.

LaRoza, I really don't think you understand

Apple Cinema Displays are Industry Grade Monitors. I have been to web development companies and actually talked with Designers (Flash/Illustrator/Photoshop/Indesign). These are people who rely on color accuracy and resolution, and these are the monitors they use (either that or the old but expensive CRT's but no one really uses those anymore). These are the TOP OF THE LINE as far as Desktop LCD Monitors go, I CANNOT stress this enough, you will not find a better LCD monitor. Not only he configure a 30" Monitor (My HDTV is 40"!!"), but he configured DUAL Monitors!!!

Yes most companies allow you to configure monitors, but there is no comparison to configuring a 19" Dell/Acer/What have you for $100.00-300.00, and configuring 2 industry grade, high resolution top of the line monitors that are 4 digits in price and then going so far as to be like "oh woe is me I have no idea how this configuration got to be thousands of dollars high".... There is a decided, and stark difference between the two.


Edit: Handy, I max configured everything to even get CLOSE to the price that you were quoting....If you really didn't configure for all that stuff, there is easily a 5,000-10,000 difference between what price you got, and what price I'm getting. Where do you live that the prices of the Mac is this high? I don't understand what is stopping you from ordering a Mac from the US, and just getting it shipped all the way there, I work for a company that frequently sends stuff worldwide overnight, at the most that will cost you like 300-400 (and that's for overnight). What is stopping you from doing that?

[LaRoza]

LaRoza, I really don't think you understand

Edit: Handy, I max configured everything to even get CLOSE to the price that you were quoting....If you really didn't configure for all that stuff, there is easily a 5,000-10,000 difference between what price you got, and what price I'm getting. Where do you live that the prices of the Mac is this high? I don't understand what is stopping you from ordering a Mac from the US, and just getting it shipped all the way there, I work for a company that frequently sends stuff worldwide overnight, at the most that will cost you like 300-400 (and that's for overnight). What is stopping you from doing that?

I do understand. The equipment he chose was really top of the line and thus expensive. I don't get what you are disputing.

He lives in Oz, and it is highly probable the prices are much higher. The prices of Macs are inflated to begin with, and it is just worse as you go elsewhere.

[the6step]

I do understand. The equipment he chose was really top of the line and thus expensive. I don't get what you are disputing.

You can't order something extraneous of the actual computer, and then complain that said computer is expensive.

I made that table analogy to highlight just that, exaggerating the reality of it so that the point becomes obvious. I can give you another easy analogy to understand.

It's like buying a 100 dollar Honda Civic, but complaining it costed you 10,000 dollars because you decided to buy 9,000 dollar rims for it.

It's like buying a 500 dollar gold ring, but complaining it costed 50,000 because you decided to "config" it with encrusted diamonds and ruby's

It's like getting a 20 dollar haircut but complaining it costed 100 because you asked them to shave the mona lisa into your hair.

It's like getting a 20 dollar shirt but complaining it costed 20,000 because you decided to buy it off of ebay because it had Michael Jacksons signature on it.

[LaRoza]

You can't order something extraneous of the actual computer, and then complain that said computer is expensive.

I made that table analogy to highlight just that, exaggerating the reality of it so that the point becomes obvious. I can give you another easy analogy to understand.


He wasn't complaining...

No, you are arguing a moot point.

[the6step]

He wasn't complaining...

No, you are arguing a moot point.

The title of the topic infers un-satisfaction with pricing.

Which therein lies the point.

The title as follows:

"Re: $31,384.99 Mac Pro!!!"

but as we know, he configured it with 1 of those "oh so expensive monitors", and that really can't be grouped in with the cost of the actual computer, for my aforementioned reasons.

Which was what our original discussion was about, you made a comment that it was in the config so it was fair game, which I disagreed with.

[LaRoza]

The title of the topic infers un-satisfaction with pricing.

Which therein lies the point.

The title as follows:

"Re: $31,384.99 Mac Pro!!!"

but as we know, he configured it with 1 of those "oh so expensive monitors", and that really can't be grouped in with the cost of of the actual computer, for my aforementioned reasons.

No it doesn't, it just shows an exclamation.

It isn't every system that you can customize to that price on a single site.

I just went the Lenovo site and customized a Thinkpad to the highest possible specs. This includes all sorts of accessories and services and software. It cost $6,669.08. Does that mean a Thinkpad is way overpriced or that it comes with a lot of options? (Actually, considering all the stuff I chose, including a rather large monitor and every imaginable accessory, that is a good price)

[handy]

Edit: Handy, I max configured everything to even get CLOSE to the price that you were quoting....If you really didn't configure for all that stuff, there is easily a 5,000-10,000 difference between what price you got, and what price I'm getting. Where do you live that the prices of the Mac is this high? I don't understand what is stopping you from ordering a Mac from the US, and just getting it shipped all the way there, I work for a company that frequently sends stuff worldwide overnight, at the most that will cost you like 300-400 (and that's for overnight). What is stopping you from doing that?

Oztralia mate! :lolflag:

I don't want to buy one of those things, I could build my own for a fraction of the price. & run it on Arch for speed! ;-)

[albeano2004]

...un-satisfaction...
Actually it's dissatisfaction... (and I'm not sure how you got the idea that the thread title 'infers [dissatisfaction] with the pricing'.)
Anyway, I can't see what you're on about the6step. It's a light-hearted thread made to draw attention to the crazy price that you can pay for a Mac Pro. Of course, as handy has already said, they aren't actually going to buy the thing!

[LaRoza]

Oztralia mate!


It is obvious from your accent..mate.

[the6step]

No it doesn't, it just shows an exclamation.

And what exactly does the exclamation mean? Do you see my last sentence with the question mark? Question marks are supposed to infer a question (amongst other things). I'm not going to get into it but I think we all know what the title of the thread means, that Mac Pro's are really expensive (which certainly doesn't infer an overjoyed person on the other end of that statement) . But that is not what the original discussion is about so I don't really want to veer off in that direction.

You are totally missing the point of why I responded to this thread, and why we are going back and forth. This is your original comment

When they are part of the configuration of course.

The title of this thread is

Re: $31,384.99 Mac Pro!!!

But this price is padded because he ordered an EXTRA monitor, therefore the Mac Pro he configured is not technically this price, which was what the original discussion was about. You can't buy a monitor and group it in with the computer price, the same way you can't buy a computer table and group it in with the computer price, it just doesn't make sense on any level.

....and I'm not sure how you got the idea that the thread title 'infers [dissatisfaction] with the pricing


These spelling/grammar correctors really get on my last nerve.....

Actually it's dissatisfaction.

No actually its dissatisfaction. IT'S is grammatically incorrect. Next time, you might want to focus on your own post for grammatical errors instead of mine.

[DiscoKiller]

It's dissatisfaction.

It's = contraction of 'it is'
Its = possesive (belonging to it)

The exclamation in the title is to draw attention to what price you can get a MAC pro up to. He is not complaining about anything. You are completely misreading pretty much everything people say to you and blaming them for it.

good luck working out which is you elbow and which is your....

Peace

DK

[the6step]

It's dissatisfaction.

It's = contraction of 'it is'


Wrong, wrong, wrong

http://www.cgl.uwaterloo.ca/~csk/its.html

Do you really not have anything better to do other than spell check people? It's bad enough that your doing it, but even worse when your wrong, please drop it.

[LRT]

unbelievable!!! so unbelievable i submitted this thread to digg.

http://digg.com/apple/30_000_Mac_Pro

[chewearn]

Do you really not have anything better to do other than spell check people? It's bad enough that your doing it, but even worse when your wrong, please drop it.

Three different people posted about spell checking and grammar error (excluding you). You missed that part.


It's bad enough that your doing it, ...

It should be:
"It's bad enough that you are doing it, ..."

[r76]

:lolflag: lighten up people, I don't think handy really meant this thread so seriously! :)

[DiscoKiller]

Now I`m confused. You just posted a link to an article that clearly states everything I said was right.

Copied from the linked article...
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It's

"It's" is a contraction. It is short for "it is"
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so which one of us is wrong wrong wrong?- please do explain because i`m very confused.

Let's e-work from the e-ground e-up....

Albeanoxx- 'Actually it's dissatisfaction... ' <-correct phrase meaning 'actually it is "dissatisfaction"'

Your response- 'No actually its dissatisfaction' - this would mean the dissatisfaction experienced by it... and would not be a complete sentence. It would need to follow on with something like 'Its dissatisfaction was apparent'.

And no, I dont have anything better to do than pick holes in peoples grammar (not spell checking anyone to be fair) because I`m at work.

And for future reference

your = belonging to you
You're = contraction of 'you are'


In conclusion, I am completely off topic and apologise to everyone else reading this thread, but in my defense- I am bored, and this is really helping

Peace

DK

[rune0077]

Gosh, guess it's not just religion that get people's blood boiling (although I suppose Mac's are like a religion to some people).

I'm not going to get into it but I think we all know what the title of the thread means, that Mac Pro's are really expensive (which certainly doesn't infer an overjoyed person on the other end of that statement).

No, we do not all know that. In fact, you seem to be the only person in the entire thread to have drawn that conclusion. If I should second guess handy, I'm thinking this thread was not meant to be very serious (who would ever seriously consider buying a 30 thousand dollar computer?), you just took it a little more serious than it was meant. Lighten up.

[DiscoKiller]

Gosh, guess it's not just religion that get people's blood boiling (although I suppose Mac's are like a religion to some people).

I`m just in it for the grammar discussion man, i dont even know what a linux is. Is a mac just a regular sized version of the big mac? in which case i wouldnt even pay 30k for a big mac let alone its smaller couterpart.

Peace

DK

[notwen]

The shiny case alone is worth $30k.

[rune0077]

I`m just in it for the grammar discussion man, i dont even know what a linux is.

I believe that should be: "I don't even know what a linux is" ;)

Is a mac just a regular sized version of the big mac?


I'm thinking it is, yes.

[kaboodle_fish]

I`m just in it for the grammar discussion man, i dont even know what a linux is. Is a mac just a regular sized version of the big mac? in which case i wouldnt even pay 30k for a big mac let alone its smaller couterpart.

Peace

DK

Duh! Everyone knows a Mac is a type of coat you wear when it is raining innit ;)

BTW the correct answer is it's because in this instance the apostrophe indicates a missing letter.

[DiscoKiller]

I believe that should be: "I don't even know what a linux is" ;)


Baaaaahahahahaha, beaten with my own stick! I should definitely check my typing with a little more zeal when entering the proverbial mine field that is grammatical flaming!

...and to further the big mac vs. mac discussion, neither taste nice therefore are not worth 30k - Lasagne, however, (just had some for my lunch) is awesome, maybe still not worth 30k despite the delicious salad that came with it.


Peace

DK

[LaRoza]

And what exactly does the exclamation mean? Do you see my last sentence with the question mark? Question marks are supposed to infer a question (amongst other things). I'm not going to get into it but I think we all know what the title of the thread means, that Mac Pro's are really expensive (which certainly doesn't infer an overjoyed person on the other end of that statement) . But that is not what the original discussion is about so I don't really want to veer off in that direction.

But this price is padded because he ordered an EXTRA monitor, therefore the Mac Pro he configured is not technically this price, which was what the original discussion was about. You can't buy a monitor and group it in with the computer price, the same way you can't buy a computer table and group it in with the computer price, it just doesn't make sense on any level.

He clarified what he meant, what more do you want?

So? When I configured that Thinkpad I mentioned I got more than a single person could actually use at once, but they were available options. It is just a fun thing to do...(And yes, I put the most expensive external monitor as an option)

[handy]

It is obvious from your accent..mate.

Too right mate!

You know a fair dinkum bloke when you hear one! :D

[handy]

And what exactly does the exclamation mean?


I can tell you because I wrote it!

They were a symbol to elucidate as clearly as possible my reaction to the price. Which was of course shock!

Yes, I am dissatisfied that in this day & age anyone could charge so much money for a desktop computer.

It is highway robbery, the same thing can be built for half the price I expect, (I know sooner or later I'm going to have to prove that) & be run on a faster, customizable OS like Arch for instance.

Why would someone need to buy such a computer?

3D work I would expect, though really there are much cheaper ways to get more processing power & still have the display ability.

It would be very interesting to see how many computers with roughly the same configuration Apple sells in a year world wide.


Do you see my last sentence with the question mark? Question marks are supposed to infer a question (amongst other things).

Out of interest, what other things?


I'm not going to get into it but I think we all know what the title of the thread means, that Mac Pro's are really expensive (which certainly doesn't infer an overjoyed person on the other end of that statement) .

The price of the Mac Pro did/does bring me amusement, I started this thread to share it.


But that is not what the original discussion is about so I don't really want to veer off in that direction.

?


You are totally missing the point of why I responded to this thread, and why we are going back and forth. This is your original comment ...

The title of this thread is

Re: $31,384.99 Mac Pro!!!

But this price is padded because he ordered an EXTRA monitor,

I have already told you that I DID NOT order an extra monitor.


therefore the Mac Pro he configured is not technically this price, which was what the original discussion was about.


& that is NOT what the original discussion was about. If you take the price of the 30" monitor away from the price quoted in the thread's title, by subtracting $2,798-, = $28,586.99 Aus, who cares? It still is a number that is worth more, much more, than it cost me to build my very nice little house, that is now worth nearly $400,000. So the entire exercise in my opinion, of this thread, that I started, is to show what a bad investment that computer is, UNLESS of course you can use it to make more money than it is worth. Which of course would have to be the only reason anyone would buy such a beast, unless of course they are stupidly wealthy, & don't care about the suffering going on, on our gorgeous little planet.


You can't buy a monitor and group it in with the computer price, the same way you can't buy a computer table and group it in with the computer price, it just doesn't make sense on any level.

It was my thread, I can group whatever I want into it.


These spelling/grammar correctors really get on my last nerve.....

You really are good fun, thanks... :lolflag:


No actually its dissatisfaction. IT'S is grammatically incorrect. Next time, you might want to focus on your own post for grammatical errors instead of mine.

:lolflag: Tit for Tat! Sorry, I felt like using a capital T.

[handy]

It's dissatisfaction.

It's = contraction of 'it is'
Its = possesive (belonging to it)

The exclamation in the title is to draw attention to what price you can get a MAC pro up to. He is not complaining about anything. You are completely misreading pretty much everything people say to you and blaming them for it.

good luck working out which is you elbow and which is your....

Peace

DK

Wow, I have got so much unexpected value out of this Apple price! ;-D

[LaRoza]

& that is NOT what the original discussion was about. If you take the price of the 30" monitor away from the price quoted in the thread's title, by subtracting $2,798-, = $28,586.99 Aus, who cares? It still is a number that is worth more, much more, than it cost me to build my very nice little house, that is now worth nearly $400,000. So the entire exercise in my opinion, of this thread, that I started, is to show what a bad investment that computer is, UNLESS of course you can use it to make more money than it is worth.

Computers (by themselves) are possibly the worst investment ever. Their value seems to decrease before they are made.

[handy]

unbelievable!!! so unbelievable i submitted this thread to digg.

http://digg.com/apple/30_000_Mac_Pro

I tried to get a digg account so I could refute the post that said I was complaining, but the image would not appear for me to verify that I was a human, so I could not get an account! :lolflag:

[handy]

:lolflag: lighten up people, I don't think handy really meant this thread so seriously! :)

This thread has delivered beyond my wildest expectations... :lolflag:

[LaRoza]

I tried to get a digg account so I could refute the post that said I was complaining, but the image would not appear for me to verify that I was a human, so I could not get an account!

It has been found that the source of stupidity on the internet is people (not all, just in general). So, these images you have to use to verify yourself are trying to weed out humans, not bots.

[LaRoza]

This thread has delivered beyond my wildest expectations...
You have to treasure these moments.

[handy]

Now I`m confused. You just posted a link to an article that clearly states everything I said was right.

Copied from the linked article...
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It's

"It's" is a contraction. It is short for "it is"
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so which one of us is wrong wrong wrong?- please do explain because i`m very confused.

Let's e-work from the e-ground e-up....

Albeanoxx- 'Actually it's dissatisfaction... ' <-correct phrase meaning 'actually it is "dissatisfaction"'

Your response- 'No actually its dissatisfaction' - this would mean the dissatisfaction experienced by it... and would not be a complete sentence. It would need to follow on with something like 'Its dissatisfaction was apparent'.

And no, I dont have anything better to do than pick holes in peoples grammar (not spell checking anyone to be fair) because I`m at work.

And for future reference

your = belonging to you
You're = contraction of 'you are'


In conclusion, I am completely off topic and apologise to everyone else reading this thread, but in my defense- I am bored, and this is really helping

Peace

DK

Good stuff!

I appreciate your participation in this thread, you have made valuable contributions as far as I am concerned.

Bummer about the job satisfaction though.

[handy]

I`m just in it for the grammar discussion man, i dont even know what a linux is. Is a mac just a regular sized version of the big mac? in which case i wouldnt even pay 30k for a big mac let alone its smaller couterpart.

Peace

DK

I guess in the end this thread is all about just how hungry a person can be.

[handy]

The shiny case alone is worth $30k.

If I owned it I would polish it for obvious reasons.

[handy]

It has been found that the source of stupidity on the internet is people (not all, just in general). So, these images you have to use to verify yourself are trying to weed out humans, not bots.

:lolflag: THAT i like! :lolflag:

[handy]

You have to treasure these moments.

I agree.

For all the crap that you must read in the backyard, I expect this stuff is a welcome release LaRoza?

[LaRoza]

THAT i like!

It is the only logical conclusion after seeing those images.

I agree.

For all the crap that you must read in the backyard, I expect this stuff is a welcome release LaRoza?

I like the OMG pInK pOnIeS, although I am sick of the USA politics, global warming/cooling, and evolution.

The best diversion was this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=704619

(It used to be part of another until I split it toward the end)

[gameryoshi600]

3 words.
waste. of. money.

[handy]

I like the OMG pInK pOnIeS, although I am sick of the USA politics, global warming/cooling, and evolution.

To a certain extent I am also, but not for the same reasons as you. We kind of sit on different sides of the fence on those subjects. Which is ok. I will fight for your right to choose, as you probably would for mine. :-)


The best diversion was this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=704619

(It used to be part of another until I split it toward the end)

Thank you so much for pointing me to that thread, it is magnificent!

Having read so many threads, you should give us a top 10 every now & then?

You could have the a monthly hit parade. :lolflag: Which would also benefit the community in a variety of ways I think.

It is not really a silly idea.

It could be a sticky in the backyard that is updated monthly, unless of course it was a gray month.

[LaRoza]

To a certain extent I am also, but not for the same reasons as you. We kind of sit on different sides of the fence on those subjects. Which is ok. I will fight for your right to choose, as you probably would for mine. :-)

Having read so many threads, you should give us a top 10 every now & then?

You could have the a monthly hit parade. Which would also benefit the community in a variety of ways I think.

It is not really a silly idea.

It could be a sticky in the backyard that is updated monthly, unless of course it was a gray month.
I think we agree on most things, but differ on how to approach it. Like the cluster bomb thing. Agree in principle, but not in methods.

A monthly top ten thread sticky? That is a good idea...

[handy]

I think we agree on most things, but differ on how to approach it. Like the cluster bomb thing. Agree in principle, but not in methods.

My aim with those topics is to bring them to people's attention. Beyond that, what else can you do with talk but inspire thought & possible future discussion with perhaps occasionally someone actually making a more informed choice in the future?

They may not make the choice that I do, they may research & find out things that I don't know. There is certainly no harm in that.


A monthly top ten thread sticky? That is a good idea...

Of course I think it is a winner, :-) I would follow it fervently, there would of course be discussion about what other people think should have been in the top 10, which would also be a winner.

There are so many threads in this forum, a top 10 type of thing in the backyard pink thing would surely be an added bonus for many of us regulars.

It could have additions from any Mod that finds a stimulating & enjoyable thread.

Will you present it to the team LaRoza?

[LaRoza]

There are so many threads in this forum, a top 10 type of thing in the backyard pink thing would surely be an added bonus for many of us regulars.

It could have additions from any Mod that finds a stimulating & enjoyable thread.

Will you present it to the team LaRoza?

It is a good idea. I have to go to IRC now, for a meeting (going for Ubuntu Membership) but I will get back and devote more time to this idea.

[handy]

It is a good idea. I have to go to IRC now, for a meeting (going for Ubuntu Membership) but I will get back and devote more time to this idea.

I wish you well.

[LaRoza]

I wish you well.

I got the Ubuntu Membership, thanks for your well wishing (wishing well?).

It is late (or very, very early, depending on how you think), so I will consider this top ten thread sticky some more later. I am thinking that five is a better number, or we can be wild and make the number vary.

[Unix_Slayer]

Maybe the Lisa would be worth that much in a museum. I say shoot it if it's lame.

[handy]

I got the Ubuntu Membership, thanks for your well wishing (wishing well?).

It is late (or very, very early, depending on how you think), so I will consider this top ten thread sticky some more later. I am thinking that five is a better number, or we can be wild and make the number vary.

Congrat's on the Ubuntu membership, I think that you surely do deserve it LaRoza.

You may find that some months don't fare well enough to come up with 10, & others have more, perhaps the number should not be used, just a title like May's Most Entertaining Threads or something better that you will think of.

I do think that it also has the potential problem of turning a thread to sheet after it is publicized, but that is just the human nature problem.

[Redrazor39]

You obviously haven't tried customizing Xserve to it's fullest.

Do that on the Apple website and post the price ;)

[cammin]

It's a hair over 91 grand, fully loaded.

I was going to comment on it being a requirment for that Fibre Channel card on the Mac. Then comment about the Xserve having 2 FC cards eventually needing an infinite amount of Xserves for that one Mac. Closing with the line...

"An infinite amount of money is kind of a high price to pay for 1 computer."


I figured someone would take it seriously, so I didn't post it.

[justin1278]

Just configured it with the most expensive everything, w/ the apple care warranty and all the software.

Total: $27,489.00

The good news, if I order it, I get free shipping

[handy]

Just configured it with the most expensive everything, w/ the apple care warranty and all the software.

Total: $27,489.00

The good news, if I order it, I get free shipping

:lolflag:

Quick go for it before they change their policy, (as they do quite often)?

[r76]

I just maxed out a Mac Pro's configuration options at the Apple online store

Why do it online? Shurely if you visited the store the sales assistant could chuck in, oohh, 5 free iTunes as well? :p

[handy]

Why do it online? Shurely if you visited the store the sales assistant could chuck in, oohh, 5 free iTunes as well? :p

Bugger, why didn't I do that, now I feel like I have wasted ALL of that money!

[Chrisj303]

I am buying an Octacore Mac Pro in August.

Though I plan to buy the Ram, and extra 8800 seperatly from third-party to save £££.

[spencercarran]

...

Why exactly do you need 32 gig of RAM? Or 4 TB of hard disk space? 2 3.2 GHz quad-core processors? Seriously, unless you are working on some type of massive project where you need a powerful supercomputer, all of that is just a waste. You can get Mac hardware at reasonable prices. Macs cost about the same as similarly configured PCs. Of course, you probably could buy the base-line model and upgrade it for a bit cheaper than getting the fancier specs from Apple, but still, there's really no need to. Can you give me one example of how you would possibly ever need 32 gig of RAM? I've got 1 gig, and that's more than enough for everything I do.

[hanzomon4]

Well if you're an OS junky and want to have a ton of Virtual Machines running at the same time with respectable Virtual specs and still have a smooth OS I guess 32gib of ram and 4tb of disk space makes sense.

[spencercarran]

Well if you're an OS junky and want to have a ton of Virtual Machines running at the same time with respectable Virtual specs and still have a smooth OS I guess 32gib of ram and 4tb of disk space makes sense.

Only if you want to run literally every operating system known to man simultaneously.:roll: Seriously, 1 gig of ram is just fine for everything I do, and my 160GB hard disk is mostly empty. I could probably get by just fine with about 20-30gig of disk space- and that's including my OSX/Ubuntu dual boot with all my data copied onto both partitions. Plus, several other features required to "max out" the Mac Pro to such a ridiculous price aren't even remotely necessary/even desirable from my perspective. Why would I want a 30-inch monitor?

Here's a more realistic configuration of the Mac Pro:
Get the best processor-2 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon. (damn that would be fast)
8 GB of RAM (that's plenty)
One hard drive with 750GB of space (I don't see why you need multiple drives, and even this much space seems rather excessive)
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB (the second-best offered, and the next level up is definitely NOT worth an extra $2700)
One monitor- 23" flat panel Apple Cinema HD display.
One Superdrive- why would you need/want two?
Fine, get the toy wireless mouse. Just makes it easier to lose, but whatever.
Regular keyboard- why bother with a wireless keyboard when this thing is staying stationary on a desk anyways?
Modem, but no wireless- it's a freakin' tower computer, not a laptop. No one in their right mind is going to drag this thing to Starbucks for free wifi.
No OSX Server- there are enough free Unices for that.
No iWork- it's a hassle to deal with in a MS Office world, and OpenOffice is better than Apple's office suite anyways.

Final bill: a tad over 7 grand. Still more money than I would part with for a computer, but it's a very high-end thing anyways and that's what it's intended as. You could probably save some more money by getting it with less RAM and upgrading it- Apple does admittedly charge fairly high prices to upgrade the features beyond the basic level. But that price isn't out of line for an extremely powerful high-end machine.