Linuxmint Elyssa updates (sorta rolling)

[kpkeerthi]

Starting with Elyssa, Linux Mint will consider two of its releases "current": The latest release, and the latest LTS release. Basically, this means that innovations put into Linux Mint 6, Linux Mint 7 and Linux Mint 8 will be backported into Linux Mint 5 until the next LTS release comes out. Users will have a choice to stay current over the next 2 years by keeping Linux Mint 5 Elyssa, or by following the latest releases every 6 months.

Although Linux Mint isn't a rolling distribution an LTS strategy will be put in place to ensure that Linux Mint 5 Elyssa will stay up to date over the next 2 years. Users will have the choice to enable the backport repository for Elyssa in which upgrades for important desktop applications (Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice..) will be made available. ...from http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_elyssa.php

Sounds interesting. Makes me wonder how this is different from Hardy's (or in general, ubuntu's) backports (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports) repository ?

[jrusso2]

...from http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_elyssa.php

Sounds interesting. Makes me wonder how this is different from Hardy's (or in general, ubuntu's) backports (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports) repository ?

Strange that's the same suggestion I made for Ubuntu. Linux Mint seems to be taking all my suggestions and using them. Its great.

[kpkeerthi]

Yeah. Being able to stay up-to-date with LTS for 2 years is awesome. Does this mean that backports for linuxmint are 'officially' supported as against supported-by-community in Ubuntu?

[handy]

Yeah. Being able to stay up-to-date with LTS for 2 years is awesome. Does this mean that backports for linuxmint are 'officially' supported as against supported-by-community in Ubuntu?

By the look of the following, it is an official back-porting of certain specific app's, though the statement is somewhat ambiguous:

12. LTS aspects

Linux Mint 5 Elyssa is built on top of the Ubuntu Hardy Heron package base. Hardy is a Long Term Support (LTS) release, meaning that it will be supported and it will receive security and package updates for the next 3 years.

Starting with Elyssa, Linux Mint will consider two of its releases "current": The latest release, and the latest LTS release. Basically, this means that innovations put into Linux Mint 6, Linux Mint 7 and Linux Mint 8 will be backported into Linux Mint 5 until the next LTS release comes out. Users will have a choice to stay current over the next 2 years by keeping Linux Mint 5 Elyssa, or by following the latest releases every 6 months.

Although Linux Mint isn't a rolling distribution an LTS strategy will be put in place to ensure that Linux Mint 5 Elyssa will stay up to date over the next 2 years. Users will have the choice to enable the backport repository for Elyssa in which upgrades for important desktop applications (Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice..) will be made available.

[SunnyRabbiera]

Now this is more like it, i know I may go back over to mint soon as i wanted to give hardy its run.
My Husband now uses mint so my hardy install is mainly for him, he wanted to know how hardy looked as he knows from what I tell him about Mint fixing the bugs that the ubuntu development team leaves behind.

[kazuya]

I installed and tested Linux Mint RC yesterday. It was a breath of fresh air. They have added more methods of doing things in the OS, not just one way. The interface feels snazzy and robust. Everything fits well and works. I was very impressed. I shall be using this for a long while. As a note, almost every distro I have tried as of recent has been great in performance and look. Mepis is still unrivaled in my eyes in terms of everything. It is a great livecd and installed OS. Mint is there also as the gnome equivalent for me.

Ubuntu take credit for setting the base. But many other OSes are doing remarkable things. I still love Vectorlinux{very fast} and Archlinux{blazing fast}.

[maybeway36]

I wonder if Linux Mint will someday overtake Ubuntu? Would they have to switch to a Debian base, then? (They've shown it's possible-there was a Debian-based live CD released a while back with all the Mint 4 tools.)

[jrusso2]

I wonder if Linux Mint will someday overtake Ubuntu? Would they have to switch to a Debian base, then? (They've shown it's possible-there was a Debian-based live CD released a while back with all the Mint 4 tools.)

I predicted Mint will over take Ubuntu about a year ago. Because they are doing what people want. Here you make suggestions for improvements but Ubuntu is set in its ways and doesn't seem to listen to their users.

[darco]

I installed and tested Linux Mint RC yesterday. It was a breath of fresh air. They have added more methods of doing things in the OS, not just one way. The interface feels snazzy and robust. Everything fits well and works. I was very impressed. I shall be using this for a long while. As a note, almost every distro I have tried as of recent has been great in performance and look. Mepis is still unrivaled in my eyes in terms of everything. It is a great livecd and installed OS. Mint is there also as the gnome equivalent for me.

Ubuntu take credit for setting the base. But many other OSes are doing remarkable things. I still love Vectorlinux{very fast} and Archlinux{blazing fast}.

I installed LM Beta a couple of weeks ago and I am truly enjoying it immensely. Unfortunately they dont have any type of "upgrade" option so you need to reinstall each version as it comes in. With that being said, I have LM installed on a low powered back up pc which runs fine but I am not seeing its full potential as my quad core /3gig ram pc is waiting anxiously for the the FINAL! An x64 version is coming as well!
I am sad to say I will be dropping HH but will be installing Ibex in the next couple of months. Oh and I quoted the above text because, yes alot of distros are all looking good. Suse 11 may be my next plaything!! Mepis, hmmmmm

darco

[Zip247]

I have mint on a bootable 1gig thumb drive and love it. Some people have their portable aps and I have my OS.

I tried vector and like all of it except I could not get the wireless working on my laptop. Ran the live cd of slax yesterday and liked it also, but no wireless. Maybe I will install and try to get that working.

[madjr]

I predicted Mint will over take Ubuntu about a year ago. Because they are doing what people want. Here you make suggestions for improvements but Ubuntu is set in its ways and doesn't seem to listen to their users.

they will never overtake Ubuntu because is too big of a project and gets so much press.

for me Mint is the future, is what ubuntu should become...but in some aspects ubuntu starts catching up (slow but steady)

anyway, Mint 5 LTS might be perfect (almost) for the company am working for.

[jrusso2]

they will never overtake Ubuntu because is too big of a project and gets so much press.

for me Mint is the future, is what ubuntu should become...but in some aspects ubuntu starts catching up (slow but steady)

anyway, Mint 5 LTS might be perfect (almost) for the company am working for.

I disagree, PCLinux over took Ubuntu for a while. Mandriva has been over taken so has RedHat and Suse.

Ubuntu won't stay number one forever. It doesn't matter how much press they get, what works best and is easy will be most popular.

[handy]

I disagree, PCLinux over took Ubuntu for a while. Mandriva has been over taken so has RedHat and Suse.

Ubuntu won't stay number one forever. It doesn't matter how much press they get, what works best and is easy will be most popular.

I think that Ubuntu is limited somewhat by the restrictions on the use of closed license software.

If you can use a Ubuntu that skips that problem & has a few other benefits to aid the ease of use, why wouldn't you use that one?

[jrusso2]

I think that Ubuntu is limited somewhat by the restrictions on the use of closed license software.

If you can use a Ubuntu that skips that problem & has a few other benefits to aid the ease of use, why wouldn't you use that one?

I do use Ubuntu but new users will be using whats easier and works best.

[madjr]

I disagree, PCLinux over took Ubuntu for a while. Mandriva has been over taken so has RedHat and Suse.

Ubuntu won't stay number one forever. It doesn't matter how much press they get, what works best and is easy will be most popular.

oh, when you meant "overtake" you were referring to distrowatch?

yea am sure mint 5 will overtake hardy for a while.

for new migrators i totally recommend mint.

but as you get a bit more experienced, using mint or ubuntu is not really much different.

ubuntu will go back up, specially since it the "base" for mint and targeting the same crowd.

oh and press is a big deal. Firefox without being advertised by google would had just been another netscape with 4% marketshare.