View Full Version : HOWTO: Get the Debian menu which lists all installed apps
coolblue
October 22nd, 2005, 04:56 AM
The Debian menu is EXTREMELY USEFUL!!!....quite often u'll find that certain apps u had installed via APT/synaptic do not appear in the KDE/Gnome menu but u can be almost sure that if its not there, it MUST be in the Debian menu:D ....and then u can copy ur fav app from the Debian menu into ur KDE/Gnome menu. Do u miss the Debian menu which listed all installed apps on your system?
To get it:
1. Enable the breezy Universe repository
2. sudo apt-get update
3. sudo apt-get install menu
Thats it:p
Atleast for me its been very useful. Things like dvdrip, acidrip, bioinformatics apps and other unconventional or non-KDE/non-gnome apps usually cannot be found in the KDE/Gnome menu but u'll easily spot them in the Debian menu if u've installed them.
Hope this helps:cool:
Don't forget to give me ur feedback;)
tseliot
October 22nd, 2005, 06:16 AM
How do I access this Debian menu?
fog
October 22nd, 2005, 07:42 AM
Applications-->Debian :)
tseliot
October 22nd, 2005, 08:13 AM
thanks
Mustard
October 22nd, 2005, 10:45 AM
Ah cool. I've been wondering how to do this. I had it going in Hoary, and was missing it greatly after a clean install of Breezy.
Much appreciated. :)
-edit-
Just tried it and it hasn't yet appeared in my menu. I tried a killall gnome-panel, with no luck. I checked the menu editor and I can see it there, but it won't allow me to tick it. I expect it will be there after I reboot, but I'm online atm (dialup) and I won't be resetting the computer until I get my .25 cents worth out of this connection. :)
I'll report back later on whether it appeared after a reboot.
LaserJock
October 22nd, 2005, 01:45 PM
The reason that the Ubuntu menu has less items than the Debian menu is that Ubuntu uses the freedesktop.org specifications for .desktop files (where menu and mime type information is held) and Debian doesn't. I believe (but could be wrong) that this is because Ubuntu uses Xorg instead of Xfree86. Anyway, all the packages from Debian need to have a proper (according to freedesktop.org) .desktop file placed in the right directory. To do this the .deb packages need to be rebuilt. This is also fairly low on the todo list for the Universe developers so a lot hasn't been done. If you want to help, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePackageWithoutDesktopFile has a list (I don't think it is very current but it is a place to start) of packages that need a new .desktop file. If you aren't familiar with packaging just make the .desktop file and add it to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePackageWithoutDesktopFileExampleFiles or talk to the guys at #ubuntu-motu on irc.freenode.net . Any help would be appreciated.
-LaserJock
traherom
October 22nd, 2005, 02:37 PM
Ah cool. I've been wondering how to do this. I had it going in Hoary, and was missing it greatly after a clean install of Breezy.
Much appreciated. :)
-edit-
Just tried it and it hasn't yet appeared in my menu. I tried a killall gnome-panel, with no luck. I checked the menu editor and I can see it there, but it won't allow me to tick it. I expect it will be there after I reboot, but I'm online atm (dialup) and I won't be resetting the computer until I get my .25 cents worth out of this connection. :)
I'll report back later on whether it appeared after a reboot.Use smeg (Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor) to turn it on. It took me a few tries to get the option to stick, but it's there now. :)
ToastedToad
October 22nd, 2005, 11:13 PM
Hmmmm, no matter what it will not stay ticked, actually it will not tick at all....same thing on both 32bit and 64bit Breezies.
Mustard
October 23rd, 2005, 02:11 AM
I can confirm that it will not tick, regardless of what I do. I can see the option in the menu. In fact if I remember rightly, it was there before I even installed this. So I would say that installing 'menu' hasn't actually changed anything on my Breezy 2.6.12-9-686 kernel.
graveman
October 23rd, 2005, 05:28 AM
i can't get it to work ... it just won't let me tick it what ever i do..
help anyone??
ToastedToad
October 24th, 2005, 03:46 AM
It is now working on my 64bit, i don't know what did it though, maybe a reboot. I'm glad it is, as a recent Debian convert I missed it.
coolblue
October 24th, 2005, 04:33 AM
i can't get it to work ... it just won't let me tick it what ever i do..
help anyone??
Well I'm on Kubuntu and it works very well..why not switch to the lovely Kubuntu?;) :p
Mustard
October 24th, 2005, 10:00 AM
Well I'm on Kubuntu and it works very well..why not switch to the lovely Kubuntu?;) :p
Hehehe..that's one hell of a big workaround for such a little problem. :D
PascalL
October 24th, 2005, 08:58 PM
Same problem here!
I have the debian menu working in KDE, but I can't activate it in Gnome.
Pascal
SilentCacophony
October 24th, 2005, 09:48 PM
Hi. Just thought I'd link an older thread on the same subject here. Those that can't get the menu to appear may find more info there. It was aimed at Hoary, so it may not be entirely valid for Breezy, though.
Howto have a menu which shows all installed applications on your system (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32220)
EDIT - I tried this myself (I'm running Gnome, btw,) and had the same problem with the menu not showing under Applications. From comments in the above link, I found that installing the menu-xdg package will make it work for gnome. In my case, the panel updated automatically after installing the package, and it was available.
So, if you use gnome, the process would be like so:
1. Enable the breezy Universe repository
2. sudo apt-get update
3. sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg
4. update-menus
davidanderica
March 20th, 2006, 09:35 PM
Thank you,
update-menus worked for me in Breezy 5.10.
eyebrowman92
March 20th, 2006, 09:48 PM
The Debian menu is EXTREMELY USEFUL!!!....quite often u'll find that certain apps u had installed via APT/synaptic do not appear in the KDE/Gnome menu but u can be almost sure that if its not there, it MUST be in the Debian menu:D ....and then u can copy ur fav app from the Debian menu into ur KDE/Gnome menu. Do u miss the Debian menu which listed all installed apps on your system?
To get it:
1. Enable the breezy Universe repository
2. sudo apt-get update
3. sudo apt-get install menu
Thats it:p
Atleast for me its been very useful. Things like dvdrip, acidrip, bioinformatics apps and other unconventional or non-KDE/non-gnome apps usually cannot be found in the KDE/Gnome menu but u'll easily spot them in the Debian menu if u've installed them.
Hope this helps:cool:
Don't forget to give me ur feedback;)
or you can just use automatix and install it.\\:D/
WoodyMahan
March 21st, 2006, 02:49 PM
I just set this up and it works great. Glad to another option for program listings.
Thanks!
drubulvr
June 24th, 2006, 12:19 AM
I had done a bunch of apt-get's and then after several of them I went "darn it, I'll have to add them manually."
I googled, found your post, added the menu...and I just want to hug you right now!
The Debian menu is EXTREMELY USEFUL!!!
maniacmusician
June 24th, 2006, 08:33 PM
this isn't working too well for me (i'm using xubuntu) installing the menu didn't do anything, and neither did installing menu-xdg. when I used "update-menus," a category called "Others" was added to my Applications menu, with all the missing apps in it, but its not organized at all like the Debian menu. Actually, its not organized, period. It just alphabetically lists all the apps. So without the organization of the Debian menu, its pretty useless.
so does anyone know how to make the Debian menu work in Xfce?
thanks.
Thund3rstruck
June 24th, 2006, 09:28 PM
Damn this is really handy! Now I wonder why Ubuntu would not include this menu by default
afoglia
August 21st, 2006, 04:30 AM
so does anyone know how to make the Debian menu work in Xfce?
I figured it out. Reading my old Breezy configuration off the hard drive, here's what I learned.
In your home directory open the ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml file with your favorite text editor. You're going to want to insert the lines
<menu name="Debian">
<include type="file" src="menudefs.hook"/>
</menu>
anywhere between the <xfdesktop-menu> and </xfdesktop-menu> tags. I inserted it immediately above the last <separator/> (line ~88), so it would appear right under the System menu.
Evans
November 19th, 2006, 02:10 PM
i am having the same problem in gnome but i have menu-xdg and menu (used automatix) and the menu will not show - i wonder if this is dependent on something in the kubuntu package because i installed kubuntu got the menu and then uninstalled kubuntu and lost it
ChrisNiemy
November 20th, 2006, 09:46 AM
Hi,
if you encounter problems, the solution is maybe in this thread here:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1783021
worked for me.
Greets, -Chris
sparrowhawk
November 20th, 2006, 12:28 PM
Automatix !
arnieboy
November 20th, 2006, 03:35 PM
i am having the same problem in gnome but i have menu-xdg and menu (used automatix) and the menu will not show - i wonder if this is dependent on something in the kubuntu package because i installed kubuntu got the menu and then uninstalled kubuntu and lost it
do the following to make the debian menu visible:
update-menus
mistypotato
January 12th, 2007, 02:50 PM
Update-Menus ------ doesn't fix it
Automatix ---- doesn't fix it
Sudo update-menus......"might"
stalefries
January 13th, 2007, 10:36 PM
sudo aptitude install menu menu-xdg
update-menusThat worked for me in Ubuntu edgy.
Note: I don't use easy install scripts.
Tyche
March 14th, 2007, 11:39 PM
In case this hasn't been updated before:
To get the Debian menu in Edgy
1. Enable the edgy Universe repository
2. sudo apt-get update
3. sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg
4. update-menus
Earlier versions of this procedure listed Breezy. Basically, it should work with whatever release you are using, simply by replacing the name of the release with the name of YOUR CURRENT RELEASE. In other words:
1. Enable the <your current release name> Universe repository
2. sudo apt-get update
3. sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg
4. update-menus
BTW, I'm not taking credit for any of the information (other than my replacing breezy with edgy to see if it would work :) ) I'm really just trying to make it easier for noobs and near noobs (my category) to get it to work. To me, it's the most valuable menu item on the menu.
Now, if I can just remember how to do it the NEXT time I update <BIG GRIN>
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