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shifty2
May 14th, 2008, 08:43 AM
Currently, when you try to install/update through the terminal in ububtu you get the flurry of servers etc rushing down the screen and its just a bit chaotic.

In contrast, updating in archlinux with pacman looks like this:
:: Synchronising package databases...
core 24.5K 78.6K/s 00:00:00 [#####################] 100%
extra 312.9K 127.9K/s 00:00:02 [#####################] 100%
community 335.8K 146.6K/s 00:00:02 [#####################] 100%
unstable 4.7K 39.3K/s 00:00:00 [#####################] 100%
archlinuxfr 22.0K 122.2K/s 00:00:00 [#####################] 100%
local database is up to date
Which is much more clear and concise. Is there a reason this isn't implemented already?

qamelian
May 14th, 2008, 03:40 PM
Personally, I prefer the apt method because it displays the results of specific repositories including any third party repos I have enabled. The results from pacman don't look all that informative to me.

Skarjoko
May 14th, 2008, 03:49 PM
I've always liked the way pacman displayed the servers. I would personally love it if apt did something similar.

shifty2
May 14th, 2008, 05:16 PM
That is all my repositories :-) In arch each "repository" is given a name, archlinuxfr being my only additional one. It shows exactly the same information as apt but in, i feel, neater way.

qamelian
May 15th, 2008, 06:28 PM
That is all my repositories :-) In arch each "repository" is given a name, archlinuxfr being my only additional one. It shows exactly the same information as apt but in, i feel, neater way.
Then I guess I'm missing something. Are you just talking about the format of the output then? If so, then you're right that is certainly more readable.

cdean
May 15th, 2008, 08:09 PM
Personally, I prefer the apt method because it displays the results of specific repositories including any third party repos I have enabled. The results from pacman don't look all that informative to me.

'Twould be cool if apt displayed like pacman, but spat out any lines with errors.

nhandler
May 15th, 2008, 10:46 PM
I also agree. Pacman seems to have a nicer output than apt. Might I suggest adding this to brainstorm.ubuntu.com? That way, you could get feedback from many more users who may not visit the Intrepid Ibex Development forum here.

rubicon
May 17th, 2008, 12:28 AM
Yep, pacman seems to be much cleaner than apt in this way! What should be as informative as apt now, is logs, imho :)

But knowing developers' eagerness about changes... Maybe it would be appropriate to add such cleaner view to aptitude instead (not sure about apt)? After all, it is considered as user-friendly front-end and definitely need clean interface.