View Full Version : [ubuntu] raaaaaaaaah random crashes drive me nuts!!!
eel
May 8th, 2008, 07:05 PM
For the last few days hardy has been crashing like it's going out of fashion. To begin with mostly when i opened a site with a flashplayer, which is sort of a known issue so i didn't let it get to me on any level (hmmmm zennnn) BUT things got a bit more weird and annoying when crashes began to occur 5 out of 7 times (approx) when hitting ctrl+f in firefox and then typing a word. Now i am working on somthing in Open Office Impress and the past hour hardy has crashed five or six time.
Oh ehm by crash i mean sudden and unwanted restart of X right to the login screen.
I've also had sound problems, sound slowing down to slowmotion sometimes when watching a video. So the general feeling i have is that my laptop (3 years old) is Not Coping in some way/shape/form.
Even if noone can say anything useful about the above i am a happy girl now i have decently ranted off all my frustration. Thanks for listening :)
gsiliceo
May 8th, 2008, 07:47 PM
I'd suggest you switch the sound to alsa, as pulse is inestable right now, and check your hard disk for surface errors, i'm not sure how to do this in ubuntu.
eel
May 9th, 2008, 07:54 AM
switched everything to alsa but to no avail...
what i find weird is that its not a complete crash, it's just x rebooting.
eel
May 9th, 2008, 11:36 AM
now also when i'm in the middle of filezilla connecting to a website
its no loose power cable because it happens only with some specefic events.
SOMEBODY????
vdawg
May 9th, 2008, 11:42 AM
Hmm this may be a long shot, but did you try monitoring your system to see if you are using up too many resources like ram etc?
Maybe you are running out of ram and then gdm just crashes.
Open up terminal and then type in
top
to see your system usage
Or you can use the system resource monitor, but that itself takes up some juice lol.
eel
May 10th, 2008, 10:43 AM
ehm i don't really know where to look for in terms of 'using much ram'. Is that virtual memory, resident memory, writable memory, shared memory, x server memory or % cpu? As far as i can see nothing is using extreme amounts of cpu apart from system monitor, firefox and pulseaudio. Which i end processed (pulseaudio that is) which might be a solution because my boyfriends computer slowed down terribly untill i on a hunch ended pulseaudio. Which i then completely forgot about but now i remembered again. Sometimes being hungover gives me brilliant insights (:
Nope... didn't do the job. Tried connnecting to my site w/ filezilla and x restarted. AGAIN! So i am open for wild five cents and long long long shots
Gina
May 10th, 2008, 11:01 AM
I have had X reboot a couple of times myself but it's pretty rare and not reproducible. I do get total system crashes (nothing works but switching off) quite often though mainly when playing music or video. Others find the same and there are bug reports about it. I wondered about PulseAudio too.
signifer123
May 10th, 2008, 11:02 AM
Do you know what video driver you are using?
Press Alt+F2
type in gksu /usr/bin/displayconfig-gtk and hit run
Enter your password
Click the tab labeled Graphics Card
The driver name will be next to Driver:
Examples:
fglrx
ati
nv
vesa
vga
radeon
And video card?
If you don't know it a computer ID would probably work as well.
Example being "Dell XPS 420"
eel
May 10th, 2008, 11:06 AM
it says
Graphics Card (Ati Radeon)
Driver: None
don't know about my video card but my laptop is a Toshiba Satellite L100-130
thanks for reacting!
signifer123
May 11th, 2008, 10:01 AM
You have the same chipset as my laptop. So you should probably switch to fglrx(which isn't opensource in case you want an all opensource desktop, use ati driver for this)
In that same dialog as before (gksu /usr/bin/displayconfig-gtk), graphics card tab.
Click on the button next to Driver:
Then the box next to "Choose driver by name:", click it and select fglrx.(Or ati if you want the opensource one)
then OK, and OK. From here it is recommended you reboot, but Ctrl + Alt + Backspace probably does what Xserver wants, it might just bug you till next restart.
If you don't have fglrx, go into synaptic(or whatever package installer you use) and install xorg-driver-fglrx.
Anyone else looking to help here are the specs:
http://www.kieskeurig.nl/product/2D4F89D23E2A34CEC125715D0037C452.htm
eldragon
May 11th, 2008, 10:09 AM
have you checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
it usually has useful info on what might have gone wrong.
have you tried a different DE? say KDE?
eel
May 11th, 2008, 11:39 AM
bedankt
tried switching to fglrx, didn't work though...
i get the feeling that x restarts everytime i do something that is 'impossible' like when i use ctrl-f to find a word in a website and the word doesnt exist, or when i make a typo in terminal, or when i try to connect to my site with filezilla but type the wrong password. Maybe my laptop is just trying to tell me to to quit messing around...
eel
May 11th, 2008, 11:41 AM
how do i check my var log?
what i also find strange is that i never get a crash report.
and a different DE, why?
signifer123
May 11th, 2008, 06:47 PM
Okay well fglrx was just a hunch because that fixed my laptops display problems.
how do i check my var log?
what i also find strange is that i never get a crash report.
and a different DE, why?
You can see the log with:
hit Alt + F2 then run
gksu gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
It wouldn't be able to display the crash report, since the thing needed to view the crash report is crashed.
As for the DE
It could be Gnome, or at least GTK acting screwy. So if you try KDE, it's based off QT rather than GTK. Then we know it's that not Xorg.
From what you seem to saying I would think it would be some wierd sound problem, seeing as this only happens with errors that typically make beeps.
eel
May 12th, 2008, 02:31 AM
My var/log is completely empty.
How do i try kde, will there be dataloss?
Very wise thing about the beeps!
eldragon
May 12th, 2008, 09:19 AM
if everytime you make a mistake, it reboots, everything points out to the pulse audio sound server.
im not experienced enough to troubleshoot your problem, see if muting the entire system fixes it.
or go to system / preferences / sound
then navigate to the system beep and disable it.
then go to a terminal and make a mistake :D
if this solves your problem, someone with more experience might help you fix it, or as a last resort, revert to alsa for the time being. you could submit a bug report too :D
eel
May 12th, 2008, 01:04 PM
i tried your (eldragon) solution but it didn't work. It did have some effects though, when i tried to login after making a mistak in terminal nautilus didn't work when i logged in. I am sort of tempted to uninstall pulseaudio since alsa seems to be working better, but i don't know in how far this will eff up my hole installation... anybody?
eel
May 22nd, 2008, 07:31 AM
BUMP!!!!
really.
still the same problem and i have no idea what to do, tried everything mentioned here but to no avail...
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