Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1800

[TomDaBomb2u]

Hello, I am a relative newbie to Ubuntu and Mythbuntu. I recently upgraded my computer so that I can use it as a DVR. I have run into some issues and need guidance.

I have a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1800 and an Nvidia GeForce 7150/nForce 630i motherboard.

I installed Mythbuntu 8.04, got all my NVidia drivers working correctly, but it will not see my WinTV card.

Questions
1.) I want to have DVR as well as Desktop capabilities. Is it possible to just run Mythbuntu as a program inside Ubuntu? Or is it only a separate OS?

2.) Is this card even supported? I've been running into a lot of contradictory posts when researching the issue.

Someone please help!

Thanks!
-Thomas

[murchball]

Mythbuntu is it's own distro, but you can install a full desktop on it. In Mythbuntu-control-centre, just select the Gnome desktop role. Conversely, if you already have a desktop ubuntu installation, you can install Mythbuntu-control-centre and all of the other myth goodies to get the same result.

I also have an HVR-1800 that came with a computer I bought. I played with it for an hour or so before giving up. I believe that it is fully supported by MythTV, but getting it running on Ubuntu is not an out-of-the-box experience. I would think that 8.10 will probably support it much better.

[TomDaBomb2u]

I would think that 8.10 will probably support it much better.

Thanks for the reply. Do you mean 8.04? I looked up the Wiki and it says that the HVR-1800 is supported, but I'm still having trouble. It's still not recognized by Mythbuntu, even when I select DVB.

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_HVR-1800

Any suggestions? Anyone?

Thanks!
-Thomas

[murchball]

No, I mean 8.10. When I first started playing with MythTV, I had a very hard time getting my PCHDTV HD-5500 to work, because drivers weren't included with the distro, even though Myth had full support. Now that card is very well supported, nothing special required. I'm expecting the same thing with the 1800: right now it will work, but you really have to work at it. This does seem to be a very popular card and I'm guessing that in the next release it will be a very straightforward setup.

When I tried to install the 1800 my problem seemed to be at the OS level, not MythTV. YMMV

[TomDaBomb2u]

Thanks very much murchball. But do you have any insight for getting this to work? Or should I just give up and get a new one? (Actually I'm leaning towards this anyway, since it's even giving me trouble in XP :???:)

[murchball]

I guess it depends on how much fiddling you want to do. I already had other capture devices and didn't pay for this card, so it was easy for me to give up on this. If you really want to get this card working now, it looks like people on this thread have it working: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=666150&highlight=hvr-1800

If you're looking for a straight-forward, out of the box solution and have an extra $170 hanging around, I would spring for an HDHomeRun or an HD-5500 if you really want an internal card.

[TomDaBomb2u]

OK. That's the thread I've been reading. Thanks very much. You have been very helpful!:)

[beartard]

When I first installed this card about a month ago, the drivers were such that I could receive ATSC television without any problems. NTSC/composite, however, was unavailable. In the last few days, the v4l-dvb drivers have been updated and both now work. You can even have analog tv (or your Wii) running in tvtime and hi-def tv playing in kaffeine at the same time.

The quick howto on updating your drivers is this:
1.Install mercurial (hg) from your package manager.
2.Get mercurial to download the video4linux dvb repository.
hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/
3. go into the v4l-dvb directory in your home directory.
4. make
sudo make install
5. Reboot and it should work. If you get no results, check that the modules are loaded. A quick scan of lsmod shows the following related modules are loaded on my system: tuner, tveeprom, dvb_core, cx23885, cx25840, cx2341x, v4l2_common, btcx_risc, videobuf_core, videobuf_dvb, v4l1_compat

[murchball]

Very nice! Does Myth support digital and analog capture at the same time?

[beartard]

I couldn't tell you that. I always lose patience with mythtv and give up. For as much as I watch tv, it's more a toy to me anyway.

But you're right...with 8.10 and maybe even a backport to hardy, the driver update I listed probably won't even be necessary.

[TomDaBomb2u]

Thanks beartard! The installation appeared to work, but I'm not sure. I am very a newbie and do not know how to scan for modules. I issued the lsmod command (is this all I need to do?) and here is the output I received.

thomas@thomas-desktop:~$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
af_packet 23812 4
ipv6 267780 10
rfcomm 41744 2
l2cap 25728 13 rfcomm
bluetooth 61156 4 rfcomm,l2cap
ppdev 10372 0
cpufreq_stats 7104 0
cpufreq_conservative 8712 0
cpufreq_powersave 2688 0
cpufreq_ondemand 9740 0
cpufreq_userspace 5284 0
freq_table 5536 2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand
sbs 15112 0
container 5632 0
dock 11280 0
sbshc 7680 1 sbs
video 19856 0
output 4736 1 video
battery 14212 0
iptable_filter 3840 0
ip_tables 14820 1 iptable_filter
x_tables 16132 1 ip_tables
ac 6916 0
sbp2 24072 0
parport_pc 36260 0
lp 12324 0
parport 37832 3 ppdev,parport_pc,lp
arc4 2944 2
ecb 4480 2
blkcipher 8324 1 ecb
mt2131 6916 1
s5h1409 10116 1
snd_hda_intel 344728 3
snd_pcm_oss 42144 0
snd_mixer_oss 17920 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 78596 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc 11400 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
snd_hwdep 10500 1 snd_hda_intel
snd_seq_dummy 4868 0
cx25840 30668 0
snd_seq_oss 35584 0
psmouse 40336 0
rt61pci 25472 0
cx23885 91572 0
nvidia 7825536 34
rt2x00pci 11264 1 rt61pci
rt2x00lib 22528 2 rt61pci,rt2x00pci
serio_raw 7940 0
videodev 34432 1 cx23885
compat_ioctl32 2304 1 cx23885
cx2341x 13572 1 cx23885
videobuf_dma_sg 14980 1 cx23885
v4l1_compat 15748 2 cx23885,videodev
v4l2_common 12672 3 cx25840,cx23885,cx2341x
agpgart 34760 1 nvidia
rfkill 8592 1 rt2x00lib
snd_seq_midi 9376 0
btcx_risc 5896 1 cx23885
pcspkr 4224 0
input_polldev 5896 1 rt2x00lib
crc_itu_t 3072 1 rt2x00lib
sky2 47492 0
snd_rawmidi 25760 1 snd_seq_midi
tveeprom 13316 1 cx23885
i2c_core 24832 7 mt2131,s5h1409,cx25840,cx23885,nvidia,v4l2_common, tveeprom
videobuf_dvb 7812 1 cx23885
dvb_core 80508 1 videobuf_dvb
mac80211 165652 3 rt61pci,rt2x00pci,rt2x00lib
snd_seq_midi_event 8320 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
videobuf_core 19460 3 cx23885,videobuf_dma_sg,videobuf_dvb
cfg80211 15112 1 mac80211
snd_seq 54224 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_mid i_event
eeprom_93cx6 3200 1 rt61pci
joydev 13120 0
snd_timer 24836 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 9612 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi ,snd_seq
snd 56996 17 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,sn d_hwdep,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_ seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
evdev 13056 4
shpchp 34452 0
pci_hotplug 30880 1 shpchp
soundcore 8800 1 snd
lirc_mceusb2 14980 0
lirc_dev 15732 1 lirc_mceusb2
wmi_acer 9644 0
button 9232 0
ext3 136712 1
jbd 48404 1 ext3
mbcache 9600 1 ext3
sd_mod 30720 3
usb_storage 73664 0
usbhid 31872 0
hid 38784 1 usbhid
libusual 19108 1 usb_storage
sg 36880 0
sr_mod 17956 0
cdrom 37408 1 sr_mod
ahci 28420 2
pata_amd 14212 0
ata_generic 8324 0
pata_acpi 8320 0
ohci1394 33584 0
ieee1394 93752 2 sbp2,ohci1394
libata 159344 4 ahci,pata_amd,ata_generic,pata_acpi
ohci_hcd 25348 0
ehci_hcd 37900 0
scsi_mod 151436 6 sbp2,sd_mod,usb_storage,sg,sr_mod,libata
usbcore 146028 7 lirc_mceusb2,usb_storage,usbhid,libusual,ohci_hcd, ehci_hcd
thermal 16796 0
processor 36872 1 thermal
fan 5636 0
fbcon 42912 0
tileblit 3456 1 fbcon
font 9472 1 fbcon
bitblit 6784 1 fbcon
softcursor 3072 1 bitblit
fuse 50580 1

[TomDaBomb2u]

OK. Update: I got it to work with TVTime! But I'm not getting any signal. I think I'll just play around with it until I figure it out. In the meanwhile, any suggestions?

[agamotto]

I am not sure if I was just lucky, or what. I have a Mythbuntu setup, and the Hauppauge 1800 card finally works for digital. I don't think the analog tuner has support yet, but I can confirm that the digital does work. Part of your fun might be the device number when you are setting up the capture card. The only other thing I can think of is that I can't get the SD tv guide info to work with it yet. I just scanned for channels (not from listing source) with my OTA antenna, and it found the channels. Wierd bit is that there is some guide info in the channels, apparently. I just don't know how to put it in the program guide, etc... currently.

[beartard]

Ok, maybe I should clarify something I said earlier. I haven't tried hooking an antenna up and trying analog channels in tvtime. I have hooked up an old dvd player to the composite input and got some goodness out of the card. The channel changing in tvtime does work. I get "good" static. Before, I got nothing. I figured that since composite and analog are handled by the same chip, that both worked.

[beartard]

OK. Update: I got it to work with TVTime! But I'm not getting any signal. I think I'll just play around with it until I figure it out. In the meanwhile, any suggestions?

Hey, man. Try seeing if this helps:
sudo modprobe tuner
I noticed it was missing from your list of modules. Might help you out with tvtime.

And yes, analog is working with the updated drivers. I don't think the updates made it into hardy final, though. That's why the mercurial download/build/install is necessary. I would venture a guess that, if a new kernel gets backported to hardy, that it would have the updates included. Be on the lookout if the update manager asks you to update.

Oh, and two other things to be careful about. Every time a kernel update comes out, it might be necessary to do another "make install" or even a complete rebuild of the v4l-dvb system, depending on how major the update. For example, if it's 2.6.24-17* just a "make install" would be good enough. If it's 2.6.24-18* then a rebuild would be necessary since that whole modules directory would be different.

Second is that people have reported losing some webcams under these updated drivers. Those using gspca drivers are usually the ones that stop working.

And keep this in mind: even experts on some things are "total n3wbz" at others.

[TomDaBomb2u]

Thanks! I issued the sudo modprobe tuner command you gave me, and now I see tuner when I issue lsmod.

So here's where I am now: I've got static, but still cannot find any channels. I've done sudo tvtime-scanner and scanned the entire range with no luck. I've tried scanning inside the program itself, and just get static.

I'm feeling a bit more optimistic than before; I at least get static now! :-)

[beartard]

I'm feeling a bit more optimistic than before; I at least get static now! :-)

Then you have achieved DaBomb status and are exactly where I am. When I get home from work today I'll check with an antenna on analog and see what I can get out of it. I only tested the composite before, figuring that analog would work if composite worked since they're handled by the same chip.

[woodsby]

When I first installed this card about a month ago, the drivers were such that I could receive ATSC television without any problems. NTSC/composite, however, was unavailable. In the last few days, the v4l-dvb drivers have been updated and both now work. You can even have analog tv (or your Wii) running in tvtime and hi-def tv playing in kaffeine at the same time.

Beartard, were you able to get the audio working on NTSC in tvtime? I haven't checked composite audio input, but I can't get audio working on analog cable.

[beartard]

I was getting video static without audio. On composite I got good video (just the dvd player's boot screen). Come to think of it, I'm not that great a tester as I didn't put a disc in to check audio.

[nowandever29]

When I first installed this card about a month ago, the drivers were such that I could receive ATSC television without any problems. NTSC/composite, however, was unavailable. In the last few days, the v4l-dvb drivers have been updated and both now work. You can even have analog tv (or your Wii) running in tvtime and hi-def tv playing in kaffeine at the same time.

The quick howto on updating your drivers is this:
1.Install mercurial (hg) from your package manager.
2.Get mercurial to download the video4linux dvb repository.
hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/
3. go into the v4l-dvb directory in your home directory.
4. make
sudo make install
5. Reboot and it should work. If you get no results, check that the modules are loaded. A quick scan of lsmod shows the following related modules are loaded on my system: tuner, tveeprom, dvb_core, cx23885, cx25840, cx2341x, v4l2_common, btcx_risc, videobuf_core, videobuf_dvb, v4l1_compat
I got the repositoryu fine, but Running on MB 8.04, I get the following when doing the sudo make install:

bill@TV:~/v4l-dvb$ sudo make install
[sudo] password for bill:
make -C /home/bill/v4l-dvb/v4l install
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/bill/v4l-dvb/v4l'
No version yet, using 2.6.24-16-generic
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bill/v4l-dvb/v4l'
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/bill/v4l-dvb/v4l'
scripts/make_makefile.pl
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bill/v4l-dvb/v4l'
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/bill/v4l-dvb/v4l'
Stripping debug info from files
Usage: strip <option(s)> in-file(s)
Removes symbols and sections from files
The options are:
-I --input-target=<bfdname> Assume input file is in format <bfdname>
-O --output-target=<bfdname> Create an output file in format <bfdname>
-F --target=<bfdname> Set both input and output format to <bfdname>
-p --preserve-dates Copy modified/access timestamps to the output
-R --remove-section=<name> Remove section <name> from the output
-s --strip-all Remove all symbol and relocation information
-g -S -d --strip-debug Remove all debugging symbols & sections
--strip-unneeded Remove all symbols not needed by relocations
--only-keep-debug Strip everything but the debug information
-N --strip-symbol=<name> Do not copy symbol <name>
-K --keep-symbol=<name> Do not strip symbol <name>
--keep-file-symbols Do not strip file symbol(s)
-w --wildcard Permit wildcard in symbol comparison
-x --discard-all Remove all non-global symbols
-X --discard-locals Remove any compiler-generated symbols
-v --verbose List all object files modified
-V --version Display this program's version number
-h --help Display this output
--info List object formats & architectures supported
-o <file> Place stripped output into <file>
strip: supported targets: elf32-i386 a.out-i386-linux efi-app-ia32 elf32-little elf32-big elf64-x86-64 efi-app-x86_64 elf64-little elf64-big srec symbolsrec tekhex binary ihex trad-core
make[1]: *** [media-install] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bill/v4l-dvb/v4l'
make: *** [install] Error 2

[beartard]

Ok, just an update. I just re-installed the drivers to make sure I have the latest versions. Digital tv works fine. Audio and video are normal. Composite has video, but no sound (yet). Analog gets "good" static (an improvement over a black screen) but no sound.

I've tried all the usual suspects (mixer, etc.) Most old cards could route the sound via a jumper cable to the sound card, but I don't think the 1800 has audio outs. Shouldn't be necessary anyway. I guess the drivers must either be a couple weeks away from 100% or I'm missing something simple. ;)

[beartard]

I got the repositoryu fine, but Running on MB 8.04, I get the following when doing the sudo make install:

make[1]: Entering directory `/home/bill/v4l-dvb/v4l'
No version yet, using 2.6.24-16-generic

That's the first thing that doesn't look quite right. Not trying to insult your intelligence, but did you do "make" first? Also, if you're on hardy, the latest kernel is 2.6.24-17-generic. Have you upgraded to it and made sure the kernel source was installed?

I've been checking around to see if I can find someone else who's had the same error with the install. If I find anything, I'll let you know.

In the meantime, check http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/How_to_build_from_Mercurial for more detailed instructions than I gave. They can be a little out-of-date and not ubuntu-specific, but the general idea is there.

[TomDaBomb2u]

I'm in the same place as you now. . . I think. I just bought a digital converter box and ran the composite audio and video into the card. I have video, but no sound.

[cenwesi]

Any luck with sound on this...i get video just fine but no sound.

[TomDaBomb2u]

Nope. None here. I just went back to using my little TV lol

[cenwesi]

almost 1yr now and still no way of getting sound on this card. Some people claim they got sound working but how???

[beartard]

I do have sound working....on hdtv. The drivers still haven't gotten sound on analog/composite yet.

If composite is a big need for you (video works) you could hook the audio up to your sound card input and make a script that loads your tv viewer and a sound player like sox at the same time. That'd be a good temporary fix. In fact, older tv cards had to do this anyway under Linux.

If it's analog tv, I don't think that's going to work yet, as I haven't gotten good video yet over analog.

These guys are doing a good job reverse-engineering drivers for the chipsets on the card. Keep in mind they're working on the features they need first. Then the rest in their spare time. Since ATSC was the main reason for getting this card, it's the first thing supported by the Linux drivers. They've come a long way.

[cenwesi]

Thanks for the reply. I believe i have this card working but NO Audio. Right i have comcast and the digital service. The digital box is NOT connected to my server/card. I just have the cable line split into two. One goes to my PVR500 MCE card and the other to the HVR-1800 (don't recall where it is plugged into). Anyway i installed the mercurial stuff and last night i noticed i didn't get sound out of the PVR500 or the HVR-1800. I uninstalled the mercurial stuff and re-installed the current v4l-dvb-9d04bba82511 driver off the http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/ site. No i have sound from the PVR500 MCE board but no video or sound off the HVR-1800. I will try the firmware update stated here to see if i get any lucky.

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=178654&page=3&pp=15

[beartard]

One of us is confused. The "mercurial stuff" *IS* the driver from linuxtv.org. When you're dealing with the latest code snippets from the guys who're actually writing the drivers, what makes you think you're gonna get lucky elsewhere? Just be patient.

[MasterDuDe656]

Hello everyone, I have this card as well, and have been following this thread since when I bought this card. Is there any new news about this card and the analog tuner working? or at least any other functionality? I would like to get more then the digital tuner, and composite jacks to work so I could move my htpc over to mythbuntu or linuxmce, considering Vista doesnt support QAM as far as I know. :( :confused:

[beartard]

I try to keep up with the updates, reinstalling every few days. So far the best we have is video via composite without audio (in addition to atsc). The analog tuner still doesn't work.

[cenwesi]

I am getting to the point where i will soon YANK! this card out and either sell it or throw it away. I also have the HVR-900 aka 950/980 and that too does NOT WORK!. That is a total of 3 tuners if you think about it. Currently my MCE500 works just fine and have being doing a damn good job.

[beartard]

Glad you got one working, at least. I just wish manufacturers paid people to write Linux drivers, just like I presume they do for the guys who write Windows drivers.

I think we're doing great for a team of volunteers working in their spare time with little or no information about the chipsets involved.

[MasterDuDe656]

I am getting to the point where i will soon YANK! this card out and either sell it or throw it away. I also have the HVR-900 aka 950/980 and that too does NOT WORK!. That is a total of 3 tuners if you think about it. Currently my MCE500 works just fine and have being doing a damn good job.

Meh, things like this take time, and sometimes, unfortunately, sometimes over a year, its not like we are paying them to develop the drivers as far as I know, and besides, I think I can wait hopefully for a little while longer, rather then use vista x64 where this card doesnt want to function well at all. :popcorn: rather have a quality driver that work, with hopefully few bugs, then them rush a fully functional one for this card and it be horrid.

[MasterDuDe656]

Glad you got one working, at least. I just wish manufacturers paid people to write Linux drivers, just like I presume they do for the guys who write Windows drivers.

I think we're doing great for a team of volunteers working in their spare time with little or no information about the chipsets involved.

agreed

[wasutton3]

keep up the good work, i look foreward to seeing the final driver

[woodsby]

What's funny is I've got analog tv working in tvtime with no audio, but I don't get composite video at all. If I'm not mistaken I may have had to modprobe tuner or modprobe cx25840 to change channels.
One step further - if I cat /dev/video1 into a file, I get about 2 seconds of video, and then scrambled video, but the audio works fine. This has been the case since I last investigated about 3 weeks ago. This must mean they're getting close.

[cenwesi]

Did you try this with the new kernel [2.6.24-18] that was just released? I just can't believe i have this card in there and still cannot use it :(

[woodsby]

Did you try this with the new kernel [2.6.24-18] that was just released? I just can't believe i have this card in there and still cannot use it :(

I just did. Now it seems worse. I can't cat /dev/video1 anymore, although it still does exist. Still no audio in tvtime. Didn't have time at lunch to check out myth.

Edit: I forgot to mention, I re-installed v4l-dvb from the mkrufky repository

[woodsby]

I just noticed that the 2.6.25 adds analog support for the hvr-1800. Has anyone tried this yet?

[cenwesi]

hmmm, how does one get kernel 2.6.25?

[woodsby]

I'll check it out tonight and if i get it working, i'll post how i did it. If anyone else has tried it, please post so I don't waste the time.

[cenwesi]

please if you do, don't hesitate to post for we all are just pulling our head out.

[beartard]

That's good news. I've never enjoyed compiling my own kernel, even though I've used Linux for years exclusively. If it's supported in later kernels without mercurial repos, I'll be happy as well.

Keep in mind, if I remember correctly, that odd-numbered kernels are development-only. Even-numbered kernels are for normal use. You might be introducing instability into your system just to get analog video working on your tuner card.

Please keep us posted.

[woodsby]

I ran into a snag with the nvidia modules (and a few other things) and ran out of time last night. I'll have to try to work through the problem again this weekend. FYI, I run the RT kernel on my pc's so I was compiling with that patch; I'll try again without it this weekend - eliminate one more source of possible problems. At least it doesn't take 10 hours to compile a kernel like it used to... the last time i was compiling kernels... 9 years ago.
Hey, one other thing i noticed is the cx23885 does appear to have it's own new module in the .25 kernel.
If anyone else has had success with this card and the .25 kernel, please post.

Edit: one more note... this is where I saw that the .25 kernel supports analog on the cx23885... in case you were wondering... http://lwn.net/Articles/266704/

[wasutton3]

is the fm radio aspect of this card working? or has that yet to be even tackled?

[beartard]

The guys at linuxtv.org (who work on the drivers) tend to work on the features they need or want first. I've heard it said about several cards that they have no intention of working on analog video, for example. The 1800 isn't one of those, though ;). I haven't heard anything about FM support at all.

I didn't try it with the last kernel update to come down the pike, but 2.6.24-19 includes ATSC support by default. If you just need digital support, there's no need to use mercurial to install the drivers. The new kernel, however, doesn't have any support for NTSC analog or composite (video or audio) built in.

[dafoo21]

Ive tried all the latest steps (using mercial, copying the firmware to my /lib/firmware/kernel-version folder, modprobing the modules) and i still cant a "/dev/video0" folder. Ive done all the steps exactly. Help?

[beartard]

When you finished compiling the drivers (make) did you install them (sudo make install)? The installer script does more than just copy the drivers over to /lib/modules. It updates the system s o that it knows the new drivers are there. Once that's done, you should just reboot and not worry about modprobing them. They should be automatically loaded. By the way, if a new kernel version comes out, you have to repeat the process.

[beartard]

Just playing around tonight. They're getting closer ;) Still without audio for now. I'm wondering if a script to pass audio to sox might work like it used to on older cards?
EDIT: Negative on the sox. The drivers aren't creating a /dev/dspX for analog audio yet.

tvtime analog. tvtime analog and kaffeine HDTV at the same time
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[dafoo21]

When you finished compiling the drivers (make) did you install them (sudo make install)? The installer script does more than just copy the drivers over to /lib/modules. It updates the system s o that it knows the new drivers are there. Once that's done, you should just reboot and not worry about modprobing them. They should be automatically loaded. By the way, if a new kernel version comes out, you have to repeat the process.


Yeah, i did make and make install. Ive tried both restarting the computer and also just using modprobe... I compiled the latest kernel that supports the cards analog features and that worked but i couldnt get my soundcard to be recognized and i just went back to the .24 kernel... I had to modprobe with the .25 kernel to get it to work but it still worked so I have had some success, but not with manually installing the firmware and modules on the .24 kernel. (And i did do the same steps for the the new .24-19 updated kernel. )

[dafoo21]

Okay, now im at "good" static stage after a restart, but when i modprobe i can get a picture. How do i fix this to make it automatic?

[beartard]

It should still be automatic, but you can add the modules to the /etc/modules file, one line for each module.

[loudnlownoma]

Made a post in another thread, but glad to see I'm not the only one having this trouble. Was finally able to get video from my Satellite tuner in tvtime with Hardy installed and using the S-video, but composite for audio isn't working. Guess we are back to wait and see mode, but definitely nice to have some progress. This is about the only thing holding me to using Vista with the dual-boot....

[TomDaBomb2u]

I haven't played with this in a while; been busy with school/ work. I opened TVTime last night, and couldn't even get a picture. Looks like I'm back to square one :-\. Tonight I'll probably go back through and reinstall/ recompile, or whatever I need to do lol.

[bmwman]

I just bought that same TV tuner yesterday. I cheked the linuxtv.org website and it shoul be fully supported. I haven't tried it yet since I was having problems with the MythTv software. Now I have that taken cared of and will be messing with the TV card tonight. Hope I didn't make a bad choice by purchasing it.

Please let me know if it's a good card for MythTV or I should return it while I can and get something else?
Thanks

[beartard]

Heheh. Read the above posts.

The drivers are being worked on. Right now ATSC (hi-def) works fine, right out of the box. So far we're able to get NTSC (analog) video on tv channels, composite, and s-video; however, this comes without audio so far. The drivers aren't yet creating a /dev/dspX device for the analog portion of the card.

[bmwman]

Heheh. Read the above posts.

The drivers are being worked on. Right now ATSC (hi-def) works fine, right out of the box. So far we're able to get NTSC (analog) video on tv channels, composite, and s-video; however, this comes without audio so far. The drivers aren't yet creating a /dev/dspX device for the analog portion of the card.

How do you use the ATSC feature? I'm getting confused here. I have a COX cable and have digital channels. Of coarse you need to use either a cable box or a cable card which you put inside the TV, that's what I have now. When I plugged the cable to my HVR 1800 all I get is static. Then I booted into windows and used their crappy WinTV software and did a scan - I get like 45 channels (without the cable box), but they're all analog. Apparently all the digital Hi-Def channels that I get, i can only have thru the cable card or cable box.

So in order to use MythTV with HVR-1800 i have to have a digital signal, which apparantly i can't have without having a cable box. If I get a cable box and connect to the TV tuner, i can only have one channel at a time, correct? So how am I going to record on one channel while watching another? Also I don't have any other antenna so I can't use the QAM or ATSC.

What should I do, please advice?

[beartard]

How do you use the ATSC feature? I'm getting confused here. I have a COX cable and have digital channels. Of coarse you need to use either a cable box or a cable card which you put inside the TV, that's what I have now. When I plugged the cable to my HVR 1800 all I get is static. Then I booted into windows and used their crappy WinTV software and did a scan - I get like 45 channels (without the cable box), but they're all analog. Apparently all the digital Hi-Def channels that I get, i can only have thru the cable card or cable box.

So in order to use MythTV with HVR-1800 i have to have a digital signal, which apparantly i can't have without having a cable box. If I get a cable box and connect to the TV tuner, i can only have one channel at a time, correct? So how am I going to record on one channel while watching another? Also I don't have any other antenna so I can't use the QAM or ATSC.

What should I do, please advice?

I can watch ATSC terrestrial tv via Kaffeine. NTSC analog is via tvtime on my computer.

I'm not sure how hi-def cable works. I haven't had a tv in years. But I'm assuming the cable box sends either an analog signal or an ATSC signal to the card. In that case, you'd be fine, one channel at a time, if it's ATSC. If it's NTSC, you won't get any audio yetfrom the card. It has always been possible to route the audio from the cable box to the sound card and try that route, but you'd have to use sox and tweak it so there's no delay between audio and video. Of course, that'd be a temporary fix until the drivers give full analog support.

As far as watching two channels at a time (or recording one, watching another) I believe that's only watch analog/record digital or vice versa. The card only contains one of each kind of tuner.

[bmwman]

Well, sounds like there is no way to use it right now unless I get a cable box. That realy sucks. It's not even a guarantee that the cable box will send a ATSC signal either. And let say I get a cable box, It sends digital signal and i get it to work one channel at a time, how can I change the channels if my backend PC is in my spare bedroom/office and I'm watching TV from the living room? I know it should be possible, but how to make it work?

[beartard]

I'm gonna attempt an answer, but your setup is over my head, to be honest.

I know the remote control works with lirc (if it's the usb windows-mce remote). Surely, the IR blaster would work as well. Maybe a usb extension cable or a wireless extender module would help. There might be a networked way to do it, but I couldn't help there.

[edgesitter]

You had mentioned that analog (NTSC) was working for you. I followed your steps on a previous post and I do have static but nothing else. Here is my lsmod, am I missing a module?
edgesitter@edgesitter-desktop:~$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
ipv6 267780 10
xt_limit 3584 8
xt_tcpudp 4096 10
ipt_LOG 7296 8
ipt_MASQUERADE 4608 0
ipt_TOS 3200 0
ipt_REJECT 5632 1
nf_conntrack_irc 7576 0
nf_conntrack_ftp 10144 0
xt_state 3328 6
af_packet 23812 2
rfcomm 41744 2
l2cap 25728 13 rfcomm
bluetooth 61156 4 rfcomm,l2cap
ppdev 10372 0
cpufreq_userspace 5284 0
cpufreq_ondemand 9740 0
cpufreq_stats 7104 0
freq_table 5536 2 cpufreq_ondemand,cpufreq_stats
cpufreq_conservative 8712 0
cpufreq_powersave 2688 0
sbs 15112 0
sbshc 7680 1 sbs
video 19856 0
output 4736 1 video
container 5632 0
dock 11280 0
battery 14212 0
ac 6916 0
sbp2 24072 0
parport_pc 36260 0
lp 12324 0
parport 37832 3 ppdev,parport_pc,lp
mt2131 6916 1
s5h1409 10116 1
snd_hda_intel 344728 3
snd_pcm_oss 42144 0
snd_mixer_oss 17920 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 78596 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc 11400 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
snd_hwdep 10500 1 snd_hda_intel
cx25840 30668 0
snd_seq_dummy 4868 0
snd_seq_oss 35584 0
psmouse 40336 0
serio_raw 7940 0
cx23885 92348 0
evdev 13056 4
snd_seq_midi 9376 0
videodev 35072 1 cx23885
compat_ioctl32 2304 1 cx23885
cx2341x 13572 1 cx23885
videobuf_dma_sg 14980 1 cx23885
v4l1_compat 15748 2 cx23885,videodev
v4l2_common 12672 3 cx25840,cx23885,cx2341x
btcx_risc 5896 1 cx23885
tveeprom 13444 1 cx23885
snd_rawmidi 25760 1 snd_seq_midi
pcspkr 4224 0
videobuf_dvb 7812 1 cx23885
dvb_core 80508 1 videobuf_dvb
snd_seq_midi_event 8320 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
videobuf_core 19716 3 cx23885,videobuf_dma_sg,videobuf_dvb
nvidia 7825536 34
snd_seq 54224 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_mid i_event
snd_timer 24836 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 9612 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi ,snd_seq
snd 56996 17 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,sn d_hwdep,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_ seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
agpgart 34760 1 nvidia
soundcore 8800 1 snd
i2c_nforce2 7680 0
i2c_core 24832 8 mt2131,s5h1409,cx25840,cx23885,v4l2_common,tveepro m,nvidia,i2c_nforce2
shpchp 34452 0
pci_hotplug 30880 1 shpchp
button 9232 0
iptable_nat 8324 0
nf_nat 20396 2 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat
nf_conntrack_ipv4 19080 8 iptable_nat
nf_conntrack 66752 7 ipt_MASQUERADE,nf_conntrack_irc,nf_conntrack_ftp,x t_state,iptable_nat,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ipv4
iptable_mangle 3712 0
iptable_filter 3840 1
ip_tables 14820 3 iptable_nat,iptable_mangle,iptable_filter
x_tables 16132 9 xt_limit,xt_tcpudp,ipt_LOG,ipt_MASQUERADE,ipt_TOS, ipt_REJECT,xt_state,iptable_nat,ip_tables
ext3 136712 1
jbd 48404 1 ext3
mbcache 9600 1 ext3
sg 36880 0
sr_mod 17956 0
cdrom 37408 1 sr_mod
sd_mod 30720 3
pata_acpi 8320 0
usbhid 31872 0
hid 38784 1 usbhid
sata_nv 27528 2
floppy 59588 0
ehci_hcd 37900 0
pata_amd 14212 0
forcedeth 51980 0
ata_generic 8324 0
ohci1394 33584 0
ieee1394 93752 2 sbp2,ohci1394
libata 159344 4 pata_acpi,sata_nv,pata_amd,ata_generic
scsi_mod 151436 5 sbp2,sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,libata
ohci_hcd 25348 0
usbcore 146028 4 usbhid,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
thermal 16796 0
processor 36872 1 thermal
fan 5636 0
fbcon 42912 0
tileblit 3456 1 fbcon
font 9472 1 fbcon
bitblit 6784 1 fbcon
softcursor 3072 1 bitblit
fuse 50580 3
edgesitter@edgesitter-desktop:~$

thanks edgesitter

[beartard]

That's a lot to look through. Just a quick glance, I see the "tuner" module is missing.

(sudo modprobe tuner)

[wasutton3]

i noticed that the 2.6.26 kernel is in progress. does anyone know if the same fixes from 2.6.25 are built into .26 and if so, when ubuntu might be getting either?

[MasterDuDe656]

any new updates on sound through NTSC? or no luck as of yet? :confused:

[rattletyboom]

I'm also waiting for the audio for the uncompressed stream to be enabled, but I wanted to point out that the mpeg2 stream on /dev/video1 does include the audio from analog sources. Hardware mpeg2 encoding was the main reason to choose this card anyway. The only sofware I could get to work to both tune and watch /dev/video1 is MythTV. For me this is working well - although MythTV isn't as stable as I'd like, now I've got a working setup with both digital and analog channels available in a nice interface.

It appears that xine should also be able to tune analog channels and watch the compressed stream, but I wasn't able to figure out how to set it up.

[MasterDuDe656]

how exactly did you set it up in mythtv? I tried mpeg2 and analog video and neither would recognize /dev/video1/ :confused:

[MasterDuDe656]

nevermind, I forgot to build the modules and add them too /etc/modules, but still not sure which device to use. I tried MPEG2 but it shows the default device as "unset" although it accurately display which channels I actually have, help please! :D I really want away from Vista as a HTPC :(

[rattletyboom]

I have /dev/video1 configured as an MPEG-2 encoder, which then gives Probed info: Hauppauge WinTV-HVR1800 [cx23885[0]]. The Default input is stuck on unset, but it works that way (I'm not sure how to select the composite input). The DVB DTV card also works for over the air ATSC channels, and both tuners can run simultaneously.

"Watch TV" often doesn't work the first time, so I have to push it several times and cross my fingers to watch live. Sometimes the tuner also gets out of whack on the analog channels (wavy, distorted video), but running TVTime seems to get a lock on the channels, then I start Myth back up and it works. If I figure out any other tricks I'll post them.

[cubdukat]

Mythbuntu is it's own distro, but you can install a full desktop on it. In Mythbuntu-control-centre, just select the Gnome desktop role. Conversely, if you already have a desktop ubuntu installation, you can install Mythbuntu-control-centre and all of the other myth goodies to get the same result.

I also have an HVR-1800 that came with a computer I bought. I played with it for an hour or so before giving up. I believe that it is fully supported by MythTV, but getting it running on Ubuntu is not an out-of-the-box experience. I would think that 8.10 will probably support it much better.

Perhaps, but I daresay that half the support problem is with Hauppauge itself. They claim that it's supported in the current kernel and they provide links to the V4L driver you're supposed to use. What they don't tell you is that if you have an Nvidia graphics card, you will end up borking your system so bad that you will either be stuck at VGA resolutions or you will need to reinstall Ubuntu.

For some bizarre reason, Hauppauge has been dragging their heels with Linux support for any of their ATSC tuner cards. I have an HVR-1600, and I have given up any hope of getting it going in Hardy. Maybe they will get it right for Intrepid, but until then...I'm stuck with Vista. UGH! Kinda makes me wanna throw up in my mouth a little bit.

Okay, a lot...

[wasutton3]

would it be a safe assumption that this would work in intrepid?
or is even then a gamble?

[beartard]

Most of the people trying this out are using the drivers from the linuxtv.org repositories that are bleeding-edge. If the devs work out the bugs, you'll hear it here. These drivers at linuxtv.org are the ones that eventually make it into the kernel itself....so if it makes it into the kernel that intrepid ships with, then yes. It's not something that's really distro-dependent.

[TomDaBomb2u]

OK guys, I'm tired of waiting on these HVR 1800 drivers to get right. The card doesn't even perform satisfactorily in Windows for me.

What's a suitable (temporary (cheap!)) stand-in that's 100% Ubuntu compatible? Just in the interim (hopefully) until these drivers are completed. . .

[reeseslover531]

ya I really hope they get audio working soon cause I want to use the s-video to play my PS2!

[jaymode]

I am running 8.04 and am having a hard time even with the digital side of this card :(. I tried various versions of MythTV and got it to work once but now it just fails when trying to view a channel.

I get an error about NVP could not open file on the MythTV side. There are not any errors in dmesg. The file that is created is very small (<1mb).

[benrboone]

I have been able to get the digital side of the car to work with me-tv. However it was not the version in repositories. Instead I added these lines to me sources.

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lamothe/ubuntu hardy main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/lamothe/ubuntu hardy main

and installed version 0.5.30-1 It seems to work pretty good. The original one 0.5.17 I think, had a bug that wouldn't let it past the channel scan so it would start.

[orphean]

Looking into the mercurial log the last cx23885 commit was on the July 1st. The last HVR-1800 specific commit was on January, 13th.

Not looking good for analog audio support. So frustrating, its so close to actually working. *shakes fist*

[beartard]

Yeah. It's a well-known fact that the linuxtv devs only work on the features they want. Maybe analog support isn't important to them ;)

[jaymode]

I am running 8.04 and am having a hard time even with the digital side of this card :(. I tried various versions of MythTV and got it to work once but now it just fails when trying to view a channel.

I get an error about NVP could not open file on the MythTV side. There are not any errors in dmesg. The file that is created is very small (<1mb).

I fixed my errors. I was trying to tune an encrypted channel.

About the analog support, have the audio issues/bugs actually been posted/sent to the LinuxTV developers? I did a quick search over the mailing list and all I have seen is from back in January.

[jaymode]

Did some more searching on the mailing list and the devs seem to think it is working fine:
http://linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-June/026666.html

I haven't tried to get analog working yet but maybe someone that has can report it?

[jaymode]

Ok so I bit the bullet and upgraded to 8.10 development today. I was having too many freezing issues with 8.04 so I just decided to go ahead and upgrade to see if I could get the analog to work. Installed it and then extracted the firmware (http://steventoth.net/linux/hvr1800/). I placed the files in both /lib/firmware and then made a directory 2.6.25.2-generic and also copied the files in there and rebooted.

Powered up tvtime but no audio on any of my tuner cards :-(. BUT then I tried to cat and audio was working!!!

So now on to getting it to work with mythtv. I still have not been successful with video or audio on the latest SVN.

[orphean]

What are you cat'ing? /dev/video0 or /dev/video1? I get audio from the mpeg stream from video1 but the picture is very staticy and rolling. tvtime picks up the video signal from video0 just fine but no audio. I have yet to get mythtv to work with either.

[beartard]

how do you determine which input/channel gets through to /dev/video1?

[jaymode]

I am cat'ing /dev/video1. The driver is very bad. It works some times and not the other. As far as input selection I believe the tuner is the only option in the current driver. I set it up as an MPEG (pvr-150) card in mythtv and got it to work a couple times, but after that the video was very poor. Hoping for some progress on the driver. I believe the audio issues are more of a tvtime and ubuntu problem. I couldn't get it to work with another card that does use the IVTV driver, which I know works well.

This is a post I made on another forum:
Ok so don't get this card for analog. I have tested it and I believe the driver still needs a lot of work. The card works ok with tvtime, sometimes. It is very iffy about working. I get the following errors in dmesg:

[ 925.531792] Firmware and/or mailbox pointer not initialized or corrupted, signature = 0xffffffff, cmd = STOP_CAPTURE
[ 926.796603] Firmware and/or mailbox pointer not initialized or corrupted, signature = 0xffffffff, cmd = PING_FW
[ 926.796664] firmware: requesting v4l-cx23885-enc.fw
[ 967.482186] __ratelimit: 3 messages suppressed
[ 967.482186] mythbackend[6531]: segfault at 144 ip b7daba2d sp ac36af40 error 4 in libmythtv-0.22.so.0.22.0[b7547000+a88000]
[ 1248.983663] Firmware and/or mailbox pointer not initialized or corrupted, signature = 0x0, cmd = PING_FW
[ 1248.983724] firmware: requesting v4l-cx23885-enc.fw
[ 1347.280600] mythbackend[6622]: segfault at 144 ip b7d97a2d sp ab0c3f40 error 4 in libmythtv-0.22.so.0.22.0[b7533000+a88000]



Myth gives me the following output:

2008-08-18 18:44:29.335 TVRec(1): Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
2008-08-18 18:44:29.340 TVRec(1): HW Tuner: 1->1
2008-08-18 18:44:30.690 Channel(/dev/video2) Error:
InitPictureAttribute(brightness): failed to query controls.
eno: Invalid argument (22)
2008-08-18 18:44:31.781 Channel(/dev/video2) Error:
InitPictureAttribute(brightness): failed to query controls.
eno: Invalid argument (22)
2008-08-18 18:44:31.781

Not ivtv or pvrusb2 or hdpvr driver


2008-08-18 18:44:31.783 MPEGRec(/dev/video2) Warning: Unable to get
recording volume parameters(max/min)
eno: Invalid argument (22)
using default range [0,65535].
2008-08-18 18:44:31.792 AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required Free Space:
2.0 GB w/freq: 15 min
2008-08-18 18:44:33.021 DevRdB(/dev/video2) Error: Problem reading fd(34)
eno: Input/output error (5)
2008-08-18 18:44:33.022 DevRdB(/dev/video2) Error: Problem reading fd(34)
eno: Input/output error (5)
2008-08-18 18:44:33.023 DevRdB(/dev/video2) Error: Problem reading fd(34)
eno: Input/output error (5)
2008-08-18 18:44:33.023 DevRdB(/dev/video2) Error: Problem reading fd(34)
eno: Input/output error (5)
2008-08-18 18:44:33.024 DevRdB(/dev/video2) Error: Problem reading fd(34)
eno: Input/output error (5)
2008-08-18 18:44:33.024 DevRdB(/dev/video2) Error: Problem reading fd(34)
eno: Input/output error (5)
2008-08-18 18:44:33.027 MPEGRec(/dev/video2) Error: Device error detected
2008-08-18 18:44:33.027 DevRdB(/dev/video2) Error: Stop(): Not running.
2008-08-18 18:44:33.027 MPEGRec(/dev/video2) Error: StopEncoding
eno: Invalid argument (22)


I have passed this along to the linux dvb mailing list. Hopefully this will help spur some development on this driver.

[beartard]

I gotta confess I'm seriously considering finding another solution. The ATSC side works as well as can be expected on the dirver side. I wish there were better software support for ATSC, though. Something easy-to-configure without installing a full-blown mythtv would be nice.

I mainly wanted the card as an attachment point for the occasional video game system via composite. If I can't use that function, it's not really much use at all to me.

[jaymode]

What are you cat'ing? /dev/video0 or /dev/video1? I get audio from the mpeg stream from video1 but the picture is very staticy and rolling. tvtime picks up the video signal from video0 just fine but no audio. I have yet to get mythtv to work with either.

Orphean and anyone else willing to post feedback to the linux dvb mailing list,

Would you mind looking through this thread (http://linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-August/027913.html) on the mailing list and trying the steps provided by Steven Toth (one of the devs). We currently have gotten his attention and I think it would be better for others to also provide feedback in hopes that it spurs some sort of action on the driver for this card.

[beartard]

For what it's worth, I just subscribed to the listserv. I can cat /dev/video1 and get video and audio. I'm intrigued.

[jaymode]

beartard, I was excited too when it first worked but then after that it will stop working when you change the channels a couple of times or at least it did for myself and others. Keep us and the mailing list updated.

[DemonBob]

Lastest message i got from the DEV.

I've noticed a few posts but I'm not able to test or try and repro the
problem. It sits on my todo list until I have a PCIe development system.

- Steve


http://linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-August/028107.html

[LavianoTS386]

Whenever I use me-tv all I get is "Failed to tune to transponder"?

[DemonBob]

Anyone try this card with Intrepid, and kernel 2.6.27 yet?

[waltclay]

I see newegg has card/remote on sale http://http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/Sep-0-2008/Promo090208in/index-landing.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL090208&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL090208-_-email-_-E0-_-HAP (http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/Sep-0-2008/Promo090208in/index-landing.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL090208&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL090208-_-email-_-E0-_-HAP)
so I have looked through the last few pages of this thread and found no evidence that it works with mythbuntu.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

[waltclay]

Re: Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1800
I see newegg has card/remote on sale http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/Sep-0-2008/Promo090208in/index-landing.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL090208&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL090208-_-email-_-E0-_-HAP
so I have looked through the last few pages of this thread and found no evidence that it works with mythbuntu.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
Last edited by waltclay; 2 Minutes Ago at 01:03 PM. Reason: disfunctional link

[Try to get edit to stick by reposting.]

[LavianoTS386]

Anyone try this card with Intrepid, and kernel 2.6.27 yet?

It works out of the box (ATSC) with me-tv.

[cenwesi]

It works out of the box (ATSC) with me-tv.

Is this with Ubuntu Hardy?. Did you have to recompile the kernel?? if so can you send me your .config file.

Thanks.

[beartard]

It works out of the box on ATSC for just about everybody. I had some bootup freezes caused by the new kernel intrepid is using. Haven't really noticed much else.

[croxis]

I have composet working using the latest v4l drivers and tvtime in intrepid. My current issue is trying to save the stream from my camcorder through the card. Anything that is suppose to be able to do this doesn't work or the video is funky (vlc).

[kpaden]

I installed Intrepid on a AMD64 box. It was blowing up all over the place. I went back to Hardy, and tried kernel 2.6.27, and could not get it to compile with my configuration. It is still a pre-release kernel after all. I am now running 2.6.26. No sound yet.

[Robstarusa]

I installed this card in a hardy x86_64 server.

I then put grabbed stock kernel 2.6.26.5, copied the .config out of the /boot directory, "make oldconfig && make -j 18" and then followed the steps on the kernel newbies list. I installed the kernel and then grabbed the appropriate firmwares for the card (google around) and put them in /lib/firmware/2.6.26.5/


-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 262144 2008-09-23 13:48 v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 16382 2008-09-23 14:05 v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 376836 2008-09-23 14:05 v4l-cx23885-enc.fw
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16382 2008-09-23 13:48 v4l-cx25840.fw
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8192 2008-09-23 13:48 v4l-pvrusb2-24xxx-01.fw
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8192 2008-09-23 13:48 v4l-pvrusb2-29xxx-01.fw


I was able to get a picture (no speakers here so haven't tested audio) on the composite in but it was corrupted (I only tried vlc via x-forwarding reading /dev/video[01]

My next shot is to try taking my video source & using the "rf out" (channel 3/4) instead and seeing if that works.

I will post here if I get it working.

[Robstarusa]

RF out from my video source gives the same corruption as composite in :(

Black/Green/Purple picture. I can make out faces, lines, read text etc, but the colors are seriously messed up.

[mosquitogang201]

Has anyone gotten the fm tuner to work or know if radio support is planned?

[manro]

I read at LinuxTV that analog hardware mpeg encoder requires kernel 2.6.26 ... did anyone success on this. Does this analog hardware mpeg econder means "analog TV (standard cable TV)"? ... Thanks! ;)

[madddddman]

Greetings. I just tried to clone using hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/
but now I am getting the following errors:

user@user desktop:~$ hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb
destination directory: v4l-dvb
requesting all changes
adding changesets
transaction abort!
rollback completed
** unknown exception encountered, details follow
** report bug details to http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/bts
** or mercurial@selenic.com
** Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 0.9.5)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/hg", line 14, in <module>
mercurial.dispatch.run()
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 20, in run
sys.exit(dispatch(sys.argv[1:]))
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 29, in dispatch
return _runcatch(u, args)
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 45, in _runcatch
return _dispatch(ui, args)
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 348, in _dispatch
ret = _runcommand(ui, options, cmd, d)
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 401, in _runcommand
return checkargs()
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 357, in checkargs
return cmdfunc()
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 342, in <lambda>
d = lambda: func(ui, *args, **cmdoptions)
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/commands.py", line 417, in clone
update=not opts['noupdate'])
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/hg.py", line 217, in clone
dest_repo.clone(src_repo, heads=revs, stream=stream)
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/localrepo.py", line 1978, in clone
return self.pull(remote, heads)
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/localrepo.py", line 1371, in pull
return self.addchangegroup(cg, 'pull', remote.url())
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/localrepo.py", line 1849, in addchangegroup
if cl.addgroup(chunkiter, csmap, trp, 1) is None:
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/revlog.py", line 1186, in addgroup
textlen = mdiff.patchedsize(textlen, delta)
mpatch.mpatchError: patch cannot be decoded

I tried to find a link to report a possible problem with this repo but could not so I am posting it here in the hopes someone can correct the problem. Thanks!!

[Robstarusa]

I have 2.6.26.5 kernel installed along with the latest v4l-dvb app and dvb-apps.

I get nothing but static.....I am using vlc to view and throwing the x display through ssh.

This is on a server w/o gui that is going to be resizing the video & sending it out multicast, so I don't have a local gui to work with.

Has anyone got this working? I am using analog inputs only.

Rob

[DemonBob]

Nope, and not getting any help from the developer of the driver either. It's starting to piss me off. It's pretty much a 140 dollar paper weight to me, since i don't have use for OTA Digital...

[manro]

I just installed Intrepid Ibex beta x64 (2.6.27-4-generic) and surprise!!! ... I can watch 1 (yes ONE) analog channel (the last one I was watching on winblow$). Still no sound but is one step (big one) forward from what I was. I try to scan for active channels but tvtime just go through all channels without changing the one is already tuned.

If someone have any suggestion about something I should try please let me know!

Here's some data:

manro@manro-desktop:~# dmesg | grep cx
[ 14.408937] cx23885 driver version 0.0.1 loaded
[ 14.409350] cx23885 0000:08:00.0: PCI INT A -> Link[APC6] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
[ 14.409413] CORE cx23885[0]: subsystem: 0070:7801, board: Hauppauge WinTV-HVR1800 [card=2,autodetected]
[ 14.568283] cx23885[0]: i2c bus 0 registered
[ 14.568303] cx23885[0]: i2c bus 1 registered
[ 14.568320] cx23885[0]: i2c bus 2 registered
[ 14.595015] cx23885[0]: hauppauge eeprom: model=78521
[ 14.603283] cx25840' 4-0044: cx25 0-21 found @ 0x88 (cx23885[0])
[ 14.603886] cx23885[0]/0: registered device video0 [v4l2]
[ 14.607518] firmware: requesting v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
[ 14.651224] cx25840' 4-0044: unable to open firmware v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw
[ 14.664775] cx23885[0]: registered device video1 [mpeg]
[ 14.664779] cx23885[0]: cx23885 based dvb card
[ 14.792146] DVB: registering new adapter (cx23885[0])
[ 14.792481] cx23885_dev_checkrevision() Hardware revision = 0xb1
[ 14.792487] cx23885[0]/0: found at 0000:08:00.0, rev: 15, irq: 16, latency: 0, mmio: 0xfd800000
[ 14.792492] cx23885 0000:08:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
manro@manro-desktop:~#Best regards,
MaNRo ;)

[cenwesi]

what about with the latest Kernel just released 2.6.27-5?

[manro]

what about with the latest Kernel just released 2.6.27-5?

Same thing! :???:

[Robstarusa]

Manro> save us the suspense & tell us which analog input (composite? tuner?) actually works, as well as w hich channel is working :)

If it is the tuner + channel 3 or 4, I might actually try a new kernel.

Right now I'm hesitant with the e1000e issues.

[manro]

Manro> save us the suspense & tell us which analog input (composite? tuner?) actually works, as well as w hich channel is working :)

If it is the tuner + channel 3 or 4, I might actually try a new kernel.

Right now I'm hesitant with the e1000e issues.

Sure...I'll try a few things later tonight (it's almost 2pm here in Costa Rica and I'm still at work) and let you know the results! ... for now I have to say that I was wrong about the channel I thought was the last one tuned on Winblow$ ... the channel that is always tuned on Linux is number 20.

I haven't test the composite but I sure will! ;)

Regards,
Manro

[MoonBlossom]

My HVR-1800 started to work on Intrepid Ibex 2.6.27-7-generic after

sudo modprobe tuner

I got that from this link:

http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Tuners:_Supported_Tuners#Hauppauge_WinTV_devices

Using TvTime I can see the picture but I'm not getting any sound :(

I would also appreciate if anyone knows how to configure the radio and remote control for this card.

[manro]

OK, here's the deal!

I updated to the last kernel ( 2.6.27-7-generic) ... did the mopdprobe turner thing (THANKS MoonBlossom) and now I can change channels!!! :) ... everything looks pretty good, sharp image and everything...but still NO SOUND! :-?

So far we are going good...very very close to a happy ending I believe/hope :wink:

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Regards,
MaNRo

[MoonBlossom]

I got sound!!! Not the best way but it works :KS
I opened TvTime normally (no sound)
Then in console I did this

mplayer /dev/video1

It opens mplayer in another window with the channel I have in TVTime but with sound :) I don't know if there is a way to make TvTime use /dev/video1 instead on /dev/video0 :( Let's hope somebody else figures a better way to make this Tunner work :)

You may need the firmware from this post: http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-January/023137.html

Direct link: http://steventoth.net/linux/hvr1800/:popcorn:

[manro]

MoonBlossom

Maybe this is what you're looking for:
tvtime --device=/dev/video1Just say that I try it without any results! :(

Regards,
MaNRo

[MoonBlossom]

MoonBlossom

Maybe this is what you're looking for:
tvtime --device=/dev/video1Just say that I try it without any results! :(

Regards,
MaNRo


Yes, it doesn't seems to work :(

I heard Kaffeine can play TV but I haven't been able to configure it yet (I'm using 0.8.7). So far the only programs that work for me are TvTime and Mplayer. Hopefully someone more experienced in these things may find a solution :)

[LavianoTS386]

I got this output:

videoinput: Driver refuses to set norm: Invalid argument

[kpaden]

The first clue was this e-mail I received from Hauppauge Technical Support.

“If the user is using the first video device ( /dev/video0 ) that is raw analog video, audio currently not supported.
Instead, let the user use the SECOND video device ( /dev/video1 ) -- that is hardware mpeg2 encode audio + video program stream.”

First get all of the right kernel modules loaded. Second, activate MPEG2 support for mplayer. Then use tvtime on /dev/video0 to tune to the desired channel. Once the channel you want is tuned in, then use mplayer on /dev/video1 because only /dev/video0 will let you change channels.

My sound cards driver is not the greatest, so I have problems syncing Audio and Video, but this incantation seems to work for about an hour at a time. :-D

mplayer /dev/video1 -vo x11 -nobps -autosync 30 -forceidx -hardframedrop -vc ffmpeg12 -idle -menu -cache 16384 -cache-seek-min 50 -mc 0 -ni


--Go forth and compute :-D

[orphean]

After upgrading Ibex I've been able to cat /dev/video1 and get sound and video. Can't get it working with mplayer yet but still a huge step forward!

Getting excited :)

[cenwesi]

After upgrading Ibex I've been able to cat /dev/video1 and get sound and video. Can't get it working with mplayer yet but still a huge step forward!

Getting excited :)

hmmm i am running ibex and i need to check again. I am also running mythtv.

[orphean]

It's a bit finicky but i've been able to use kpaden's incantation successfully and i'm watching (and hearing!) the morning news now via mplayer.

I tried to get mythtv working but couldn't get it going, if you have any success there I'd love to hear it!

Right now I use tvtime to change the channel so it's pretty janky but the fact that it works AT ALL is quite amazing at this point for me.

[orphean]

I got tired of opening tvtime everytime I wanted to change a channel so I bothered to learn how to do it from the commandline. Turns out ivtv-tune does the trick.

But since I'm really lazy and don't always want to open a terminal to change the channel I just whipped up this tiny app: JankyTv.

It's dirt simple. One button will launch mplayer with the correct settings to stream off of /dev/video1 and then there's a spin button which lets you change the channel.

I will probably stuff this all into a tray icon at some point but for those interested here is the result of an hour's work (or real work shirking depending on your point of view).

Things you need installed:
ivtv-tune
mplayer
gnome-devel (sorry, no deb yet have to compile it)
build-essential

Once those are on its just your usual ./configure, make, make install.

Doubt anyone else cares but figured if I found it useful there might be one or two others as well.

Edit: Helps if I upload a non-broken dist tarball. Fixed now! ;)

[MoonBlossom]

Thank you!

I'll try it :popcorn:

[kreucher]

I'm getting alot of these messages:

[675173.513406] Firmware and/or mailbox pointer not initialized or corrupted, signature = 0xffbfedfd, cmd = SET_OUTPUT_PORT

Using latest v4l-dvb hg tree and 2.6.24-21 (hardy) on amd64...

Anyone get past this?
Thanks!

[wasutton3]

so the question remains. will this be able to work properly in hardy or will it be backported later?

[wasutton3]

i have followed the above instructions for intrepid, but i cant seem to get audio to work, the incantation described doesnt start mplayer for me. any ideas?

[kpaden]

Drat!!!! Intrepid seems to have broken my incantation. Oh well, back to the Laboratory. :-P

[Nativedude]

Has there been any update to this
I'm sorta new to this:
so far I can get video through the s-video with tvtime
but can't get the tuner to show anything but static
and of course have no audio at all

I've been scouring all different forums looking for something and am at a loss

[LavianoTS386]

I've been getting random system lockup when I use either the ATSC tuner with me-tv or svideo with tv time. Anybody else?

[kpaden]

I can get mplayer to play audio, but no video. :-P


I am taking a break from the laboratory. I added all the crazy stuff again like libdvdcss, and loaded all the modules like tuner. I then recompiled mplayer. Now I can run tvtime against /dev/video0, and mplayer against /dev/video1 concurrently. The problem is that audio, and video are not synchronized. The problem seems to be with mplayer. Still working on it. :guitar:

[Nativedude]

Ok sweet!
Just make sure not to forget us when you get it working ;)

[kpaden]

Ok sweet!
Just make sure not to forget us when you get it working ;)

How about this?

I sucessfully used this incantation
/usr/bin/mplayer /dev/video1 -autosync 30 -forceidx -framedrop -idle -cache 16384 -mc 0 -ao alsa


/etc/modules
fuse
lp
rtc
sbp2
tuner
bttv
cx18
cx88_alsa


/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
vo=xvmc,xvidix,cvidix
vc=ffmpeg12mc
zoom=yes
ontop=yes
ao=alsa
mixer = /dev/line
ac=ffmp2
framedrop = yes
cache = 8192
alang = en
stop-xscreensaver = "yes"
nojoystick = yes


:guitar::guitar::guitar::guitar::guitar::guitar:

[theduke88]

It took a few days for me to get things running, but thanks to forum posts I have MythTV working on my Hauppauge HVR-1800 with both NTSC and ATSC/QAM (OTA HD) tuners, video output from HDMI on an ATI HD 3450, with both OpenGL working as the painter in real full-screen mode, and sound being played in digital 5.1 via passthru on the HDMI link. The remote/USB kit my package came with works flawlessly too.

Here were the changes that needed to be made, differing from a 8.10 default Intrepid Ibix install. I used the x86_64 version for my particular hardware, but there should be no changes for 32b that I can see.

During the install process, you want to use the newer USB Microsoft Media Center settings for the remote (Philips et al)

Setup ubuntu to use the fglrx driver from the restricted drivers configuration.

The v4l-dvb drivers need to be pulled from the mercurial archive, and compliled. You will need to first install build-essentials and some other development packages for these to compile cleanly (must be done as root, I "sudo su -" first):



cd /usr/local/src
hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb
cd v4l-dvb

make && make install

I have in /etc/modules:

fuse
lp
rtc
sbp2
tuner


Reboot the machine so all those drivers/settings come up.

When you setup mythtv under capture cards, you want to setup the ATSC/QAM tuner as a dvb type, and ignore that it fills in the wrong looking data. If you want NTSC to work, setup the card as an MPEG4 card and type the /dev/video0 device in the device field. You will end up with two video devices. Be sure to scan using the dvb card with dvb settings to add channels when in the video source setup. On my dvb scan it took a long time and looked like it was only failing (the signal sat at 0% the whole time, but sometimes the screen would go from unlocked to locked and it'd pick up a channel). ATSC/QAM is the 'Antenna' input. The NTSC scan is pretty normal looking -- my signal stayed at 99% the whole time and I ended up with grainy looking analog OTA on the 'Cable' input after I hooked up an antenna.


These seem to help when placed in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in the 'Devices' section:

Option "VideoOverlay" "off"
Option "OpenGLOverlay" "on"
Option "TexturedVideo" "on"
Option "TexturedVideoSync" "on"
Option "Textured2D" "on"
Option "BackingStore" "on"
Option "UseFastTLS" "1"
Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "on"


This one took me forever to figure out -- I'd only get video corruption and strange crashing until this variable was defined before launching mythfrontend. Before this flag was set, another problem was that the frontend would seem to hang on almost every menu option unless I was running the QT painter or in a window:


export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1

or

declare -x LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 && mythfrontend

Personally, I've modified the mythfrontend.sh caller script to set the variable on bootup.

configure MythTV digital audio to work over HDMI:

At this point, everything but sound should work.. I had some trouble figuring this part out. If you use the alsa-utils 'aplay' program, ALSA will show you what it sees for audio devices on the system:


root@teevee:~# aplay -L -l
front:CARD=HDMI
HDA ATI HDMI
Front speakers
surround40:CARD=HDMI
HDA ATI HDMI
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=HDMI
HDA ATI HDMI
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=HDMI
HDA ATI HDMI
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=HDMI
HDA ATI HDMI
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=HDMI
HDA ATI HDMI
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers null
Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]
Subdevices: 0/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

root@teevee:~# aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]
Subdevices: 0/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

The important values are the # after card, and the # after device in the first line under the header. In this instance, our values are 0 and 3.

Your audio device that needs to be specified in the General tab (2nd page) would then be ALSA:plughw:0,3 and you will need to type this into the device section. In the passthrough section, leave the setting as default, and be sure to enable passthru for anything your reciever can handle.

First you will need to unumte your card (press 'M' to mute/unmute) -- run this in a terminal:

alsamixer -c 0


You can test this setting with some white noise by executing (be sure to turn the volume down first) -- run this in a terminal:

speaker-test -D plughw:0,3

And that was pretty much it. MythTV is fantastic now that it works, but was not fun to spend a week getting to work. If I did it again, I would not get a Hauppauge 1800 card, as the support is pretty bad, and I would also not run an ATI HDMI card, even though it's very nice to have a fanless HDMI with OpenGL setup on these dirt-cheap HTPC cards. ATI driver support is the worst, and It took hours to find the LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT option... MythTV would just crash all the time with a segfault prior to that. Running with the QT painter or running in a window are the best options while debugging all the ATI garbage (see mythfrontend --help).

Next I will try to make this machine control a Motorola DVR cablebox over firewire, wish me luck as I will need it!

EDIT:Some cleanup & additions, and also to mention: I should have known better than to get an ATI card. The screen tearing is horrible (*STILL* a problem on any ATI card with any driver due to lack of proper vsync), even after fiddling with resolutions in my xorg config to get X & myth running at the native resolution of my TV. I can live with it, but I'm going to have to save up for ANY nVidia card with HDMI to use instead.

[Riffer]

Ok how do you load those modules? Or even install them?

[mosquitogang201]

So you have video AND audio for NTSC working in mythtv?? If so I might just install the 64 bit version..I followed your guide on 32 bit Ibex but still only get video in TV time. Also is the radio tuner working (if you have the 1800 with radio)?

To the guy above me once you run make install and add those lines to /etc/modules if necessary then they will load automatically on boot.

[Nativedude]

Yeah I'm not quite sure how to do what you were saying theduke
think you could lay it out a bit cleaner

[Riffer]

Ok did all that. Got tvtime working but no sound. Any ideas?

[wasutton3]

myth tv doesnt seem to work for me. its all pixelated and messed up. coule that be a video problem?
i know xorg consumes an enormous amount of cpu power (15-35% of a quad core) so could that be a problem?

[kpaden]

IT'S ALIVE!!! IT'S ALIVE!!!!!

The picture quality is AMAZING. :lolflag:

Forget TVtime/NTSC. Use Mplayer/ATSC.

# First I installed the linuxtv applications.

# Then I disconnected the analog connection on the card, leaving the ATSC connection. I am connected to a CHEAP OTA/ATSC/HDTV antenna.


# I made sure the ~/.mplayer directory exists.
mkdir ~/.mplayer

# I created a channels.conf file by scanning for ATSC Channels
linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.1/util/scan /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/atsc/us-ATSC-center-frequencies-8VSB > ~/.mplayer/channels.conf

# Then I verified that the file has been populated.
cat ~/.mplayer/channels.conf

# I use the following script that I call "tv"

awk -F: '{print $1}' ~/.mplayer/channels.conf| cat -n
echo "Enter your channel of choice"; export ANSWER=`line`
CHANNEL=`sed -n ${ANSWER}'p' < ~/.mplayer/channels.conf| cut -f2-10`
mplayer dvb://"${CHANNEL}" -nobps -autosync 7 -forceidx -idle -cache 16384 -mc 0 -ao alsa -framedrop

# The Audio/Video sync is not perfect so now I have to figure out how to get mythtv going. :guitar:

[lferree]

Thank you SOOO much theduke88!!!

I've been trying for months to get OTA ATSC with my HVR-1800.

I followed most of your steps (minus the HDMI and ATI stuff) and it works flawless.

Once I get my FM working and a good way of pulling guide info, I'll be all set.

Can't thank you enough for posting this valuable info.

[kpaden]

EUREKA!!! This tv script is nice, and the Audio, and Video stay in sync. :-)
Yes, it is a more intriquite incantation, but soooo nice. :-P



# ~/TV/linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.1/util/scan/scan /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/atsc/us-ATSC-center-frequencies-8VSB > /tmp/channels.conf

while true
do
awk -F: '{print $1}' ~/.mplayer/channels.conf| cat -n |pr -2|uniq
echo
LAST=`cat ~/.mplayer/last_channel.txt`
echo -n "Enter your channel of choice: (${LAST}), or \"x\" "; export ANSWER=`line`
test -z "${ANSWER}" && ANSWER="${LAST}"
echo "${ANSWER}" | grep x >/dev/null && exit
CHANNEL=`sed -n ${ANSWER}'p' < ~/.mplayer/channels.conf|cut -f2-10`
echo ${ANSWER} > ~/.mplayer/last_channel.txt
mplayer dvb://"${CHANNEL}" -nobps -autosync 10 -forceidx -idle -cache 8192 -mc 0.2 -ao alsa -framedrop
done

[manro]

Hi!

Does anyone has any success making this card work with analog cable tv?

I'll appreciate any help!

Rgds,
MaNRo

[cenwesi]

I have being watching this thread... some people claim to have it working and some only get video but no sound. I get video but the video is very weired purple looking with lines. This was an expensive card that for the past 9-10months is just using up power on my server. Really ticks me off that still no luck getting this card to work on Ubuntu.

PS: someone on this thread said it worked out the box with Fedora if that helps.